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Posted: 12/15/2010 10:44 AM
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Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).


With you on this!!!!  Boo is very important to the success this team has had!  Boo has also done many good things, in this case he has put himself behind the proverbial 8-Ball, but he's still been one of my favorites in the past couple of years.


I do agree with you, he has put himself behind the 8 ball DEFINITELY. But to sit here and assume things is never good, at least from my perspective. I also agree with cc cat and like I said, from an outsiders point of view it does look bad. People that do have connections with Ohio University could tell this Boo Jackson is not the kind of man that is put in the paper articles and blog reports that speak negatively of him. But as a small business owner that has no ties to Ohio University, the research on Boo could be quite disturbing. The thing that I was trying to counter is that Boo is a great man and has gone above and beyond the expectations of him as a student athlete in his career here. And for people the basically throw him under the bus is absurd.


I understand and others echo your respect for him.  If you know him, tell him he needs to tap into those that he has met: charitable organizations, community/business leaders, etc.  Get 4 or 5 letter of recommendation highlighting his character, leadership and how he would be a positive force for a company and community.  Then when he sits with potential employers, tell him to address the mis-information straight on - In bar/restaurant when brother got in fight, someone retrieved me to play peace-maker, cold-cocked before I could even get there.  Grades in place, final project completed outside of class, grade submitted by professor on-time for University, but late for NCAA (or whatever the story - he can infuence that story though).  He needs to control the dialogue the way he controls the huddle.  As a fan, I'm glad to hear he will be playing.  As an Alum, I want the chatter about our athletes to be positive - and they influence that more than anyone else.

Is this statement even true? What do you know that the rest of us don't? Care to site a source on this?
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Posted: 12/15/2010 10:53 AM
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No source.  Just reading posts from others in this thread and giving them the benefit of the doubt/hope/fill in the blank that he will be cleared to play.
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I hope everything works out for Boo to play in the game Saturday and Ernie for that matter. I have talked to Boo several times this season and last couple and he's a good kid but let's remember he is human. I'm sure most of you have made mistakes the difference is Boo's mistakes are public knowledge. I wish him the best in life if he play Saturday or not. Us Bobcat fans have cheered many times because of stuff Boo has done, remember that.  It will be very disappointing and I don't like our chances if he is out of the game. Bates needs to do a lot of work before next season, maybe he will get an early start (I really hope not). GO BOBCATS!
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John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
NCAA Bylaw 14.1.10.2: To be eligible to compete in a postseason event (e.g., conference tournament, bowl game, National Invitation Tournament, NCAA championship) that occurs between regular terms (including summer) a student-athlete, in his or her final season of competition in the applicable sport, shall have satisfactorily completed six-semester or six-quarter hours of academic credit the preceding regular academic term of full-time enrollment (see Bylaw 14.4.3.1). An institution shall have 14 business days (regardless of the date in which grades are posted or submitted) after the date of the last scheduled examination listed in the institution's official calendar for the term that is ending to certify completion of the six-semester or six-quarter hours of academic credit. If the postseason event occurs prior to the conclusion of the 14 business days, eligibility shall be determined by using grades from either the preceding regular academic term or from the most recent regular academic term for which grades have been posted.
NCAA Interpretation of Bylaw 14.1.10.2: “… if a student-athlete's eligibility changes at the end of a semester or quarter that student-athlete shall become eligible or ineligible on the date that his or her particular eligibility is officially certified by the appropriate institutional authority. The certification of eligibility does not have to occur on the same day for all student-athletes at the certifying institution, but it may not be earlier than the day after the date of the last scheduled examination for the term that is ending or later than the first day of classes of the following semester or quarter.”
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Bylaws concerning this issue directly from the NCAA Manual.


Am I reading this correctly - if you are in your final season of competition, all you need to do is pass 6 hours to remain eligible for post season play?  So much for the term student - athlete.  Six hours is two lousy 3 hour classes - not a real hard thing to do in my opinion.  


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Posted: 12/15/2010 11:06 AM
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Yeah, I remember all the times I've cheered for Boo. I remember all the good times with Boo at QB. But, now those feelings have gone South. Why should I praise a person that is the leader of OUr team and he may not even be playing because of grades. How about the old stand-by "Actions speak louder than words"
How do you think this makes to other team members feel? Maybe some don't care, but it at-least adds some unnecessary uncertainty to their mind-states before OUr biggest game of the year.
Finish the job!!!!
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Posted: 12/15/2010 11:26 AM
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Somehow this whole thread turned into whether Boo would be hired at a Fortune 500 company....that's kind of great and absurd at the same time.

If I was the recruiter (which thank god I'm not)...I would go to google and enter his name in the search field. When I put in his name, the first thing I would find on Page 1 of the search results is 6 of 10 instances citing his "involvement" in a bar fight.

If he is indeed ruled ineligible for the Troy game, I think that will take care of Page 2's set of search results. As a recruiter with a 9.8% unemployment rate to play with, I wouldn't look much further then that.

Per CC, I agree. This would not look good in the hiring process.

Boo's been a great QB for Ohio. Struggled at times, but spectacular at others. He's a key cog to the 2010 team, and if he can't play - it's a real blow. Ohio as point and a half dogs would make it real attractive to throw a C on Troy with no Boo under center.

If the report I heard on Boo is true, I find his actions VERY irresponsible. Even if he is cleared, he didn't handle the minimum amount of responsibility required to keep himself eligible for this game. Again, if the report I heard is true - I personally think he should be down for the bowl game. There is just no excuse. 
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 WHAT A MORON. Once again people chip in with their dumb assumptions on this messageboard. Boo has passed ALL OF HIS CLASSES and WILL GRADUATE. Boo did not start a fight at courtside he was SUCKERPUNCHED during a melee in which he threw no punches. By a bartender who is KNOWN for SUCKER PUNCHING people who are 1 Drunk 2 Unsuspecting a sucker punch 3 have their backs turned during a confrontation.
Boo has an issue with his INTERNSHIP and its a issue that is NOT HIS FAULT. Anyone that has done an internship knows that its a crapshoot with most companies and records are not always kept by the company that you work for. My internship was showing up at the office and emptying trash refilling the copier etc etc etc no one kept track of me but they signed off on whatever I needed them to. Looks like someone dropped the ball on Boo's internship and he has to suffer the consequences.
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I think maybe we shouldn't talk about his employability.  This is weird and kind of inappropriate.
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Posted: 12/15/2010 12:22 PM
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The following statements are without a doubt true:

1.) Boo is one of the best QBs Ohio has ever had.
2.) Boo is a big part of our success in 2010.
3.) Boo loves Ohio University as much as any player in recent memory. (plenty of evidence for this)
4.) Boo is an extremely friendly person.
5.) Boo gives a lot to the fans after games.

That said, we should be grateful to this young man for everything he has done for our school and all the hard work he put in to make this trip to New Orleans possible. If he can't play that is unfortunate, but not tragic. The real tragedy is that some of you fail to possess any decency whatsoever.
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The following statements are without a doubt true:

1.) Boo is one of the best QBs Ohio has ever had.
2.) Boo is a big part of our success in 2010.
3.) Boo loves Ohio University as much as any player in recent memory. (plenty of evidence for this)
4.) Boo is an extremely friendly person.
5.) Boo gives a lot to the fans after games.

That said, we should be grateful to this young man for everything he has done for our school and all the hard work he put in to make this trip to New Orleans possible. If he can't play that is unfortunate, but not tragic. The real tragedy is that some of you fail to possess any decency whatsoever. 





I vote this as one of the best post of the year. Its simple to the point and oh so TRUE. Boo is a great person who Ohio University coaches found like a rough diamond out of juco football. I can think of 120 college teams that would LOVE to have a student athlete in their program the caliber of BOO. You can have your Cam Newtons and Tim Tebows, Boo is the guy next door who you can trust watching over your kids..something that he has done many many times for my friends. I would give up a hundred regular Ohio students who punch horses...piss on the bricks of courtstreet..throw up projectile vomit good fellas pizza on the sidewalk over one Boo Jackson...lets be honest every weekend you can spot approx 2,000 idiots on court street who I would like to see sent back to momma and daddy for further life skills training. No one is perfect and to say Boo is just dumb but I can tell you what you would be hard pressed to find a better well rounded student athlete than this guy for the next 20 years.

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I'm pretty sure I posted breaking news like 2 weeks ago and no one wanted to listen..the old " oh we have athletes that are ineligible every year" was thrown out there. well this is big news and I think its just dumb to hold one internship against a guy when its his last requirement for graduation. Because whatelse would Boo Jackson have to do with his time during football season?
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I think maybe we shouldn't talk about his employability.  This is weird and kind of inappropriate.


I agree.

I also think people are making a lot of assumptions which really aren't fair to Boo and the rest of the team.
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Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.
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Posted: 12/15/2010 1:48 PM
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I agree with Bobcatzblitz 
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Bobcat Dragon wrote:expand_more
I think maybe we shouldn't talk about his employability.  This is weird and kind of inappropriate.


+1, totally agree Dragon, and just for the sake of discussion, am I the only one that thinks Ernie potentially not being eligible is a bigger deal than Boo?  No offence to Boo, but often times the platooning QB situation has looked awkward down the stretch, and with Troy having a potent offence, I think Ernie's absence would be tough to overcome.  Just saying, and hope both situations are resolved by game day, as both men have been pretty strong leaders on the team.
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The following statements are without a doubt true:

1.) Boo is one of the best QBs Ohio has ever had.
2.) Boo is a big part of our success in 2010.
3.) Boo loves Ohio University as much as any player in recent memory. (plenty of evidence for this)
4.) Boo is an extremely friendly person.
5.) Boo gives a lot to the fans after games.

That said, we should be grateful to this young man for everything he has done for our school and all the hard work he put in to make this trip to New Orleans possible. If he can't play that is unfortunate, but not tragic. The real tragedy is that some of you fail to possess any decency whatsoever.


Thank you!
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Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.

Have you checked the recruiting page lately? Looks like we're going to have the best class yet. This is a message board, recruits could careless about  what us armchair QB's are saying. 
Boo has made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it... All the excuses in the world don't mean squat. ie- oh a form wasn't turned in at his internship... BS! Where is the accountability?  Oh well he may not play, but man is he a nice guy... wake up bit****
 Yeah, he's a nice guy, but he's not a leader. A leader would have made sure his academics were taken care of before he recruited fans to go to the game. A leader would've been the first player on that bus...

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T-Rodge wrote:expand_more
Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.

Have you checked the recruiting page lately? Looks like we're going to have the best class yet. This is a message board, recruits could careless about  what us armchair QB's are saying. 
Boo has made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it... All the excuses in the world don't mean squat. ie- oh a form wasn't turned in at his internship... BS! Where is the accountability?  Oh well he may not play, but man is he a nice guy... wake up bit****
 Yeah, he's a nice guy, but he's not a leader. A leader would have made sure his academics were taken care of before he recruited fans to go to the game. A leader would've been the first player on that bus...



This is unequivocally the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this board and that's saying something with the likes of MH55 roaming the sidelines...

If (and this is all still a huge if) this does turn out to be a paperwork issue related to his internship, at the very least a portion of the blame here falls on Academic Services.  These people are paid staff members whose partial responsibility it is to monitor / police this very sort of thing and who should have been on top of this (in Boo's best interests) even if we hadn't received a bowl bid much less under this sort of spotlight...  

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Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.

Have you checked the recruiting page lately? Looks like we're going to have the best class yet. This is a message board, recruits could careless about  what us armchair QB's are saying. 
Boo has made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it... All the excuses in the world don't mean squat. ie- oh a form wasn't turned in at his internship... BS! Where is the accountability?  Oh well he may not play, but man is he a nice guy... wake up bit****
 Yeah, he's a nice guy, but he's not a leader. A leader would have made sure his academics were taken care of before he recruited fans to go to the game. A leader would've been the first player on that bus...



This is unequivocally the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this board and that's saying something with the likes of MH55 roaming the sidelines...

If (and this is all still a huge if) this does turn out to be a paperwork issue related to his internship, at the very least a portion of the blame here falls on Academic Services.  These people are paid staff members whose partial responsibility it is to monitor / police this very sort of thing and who should have been on top of this (in Boo's best interests) even if we hadn't received a bowl bid much less under this sort of spotlight...  



Academic services?  You've got to be kidding me.  For most posting on this board, myself included, there was no academic services watching out for us.  We knew what the requirements for graduation/advancement were and we took care of them.  My son just had an 18 week externship this summer and we worked very closely with him to get all matters taken care of.  Because of an unbendable institutional rule and the fact that he was a few days late securing his externship (that's right, he had to secure his own) his final grade was a 93 rather than a 98.  Even though he/we disagreed with the interpretation of the rule, he/we knew it going in and accepted the consequences.

As the last personal memory of his sports career, I hope the kid plays too but as those who have graduated and moved on know, there are rules, there are responsibilities and there are consequences.
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http://www.nola.com/nobowl/index.ssf/2010/12/ohio_quarterback_boo_jackson_n.html

There is a comment on Boo and Hodge from Solich. It doesn't really clarify the situation at all.

It seems that it was a surprise that Boo was unable to go as he practiced all last week. Hodge did not practice except once. It sounds like neither can be ruled out, but I wouldn't count on either of them.
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speaking of academics- this whole thread is DUMB.
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T-Rodge wrote:expand_more
Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.

Have you checked the recruiting page lately? Looks like we're going to have the best class yet. This is a message board, recruits could careless about  what us armchair QB's are saying. 
Boo has made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it... All the excuses in the world don't mean squat. ie- oh a form wasn't turned in at his internship... BS! Where is the accountability?  Oh well he may not play, but man is he a nice guy... wake up bit****
 Yeah, he's a nice guy, but he's not a leader. A leader would have made sure his academics were taken care of before he recruited fans to go to the game. A leader would've been the first player on that bus...




T-Rodge, 

You seem angry about Boo, did the potatoes leave a bad taste in your mouth?
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speaking of academics- this whole thread is DUMB.

Agree 100%! Guy knocks his arse off for 5 years and these cats turn on him based on rumor and conjecture. This bunch of bananas won't wait for any facts to get in the way of jumping to conclusions and criticizing this young athlete who has given us so much enjoyable football. Great fans! This is non-BCS college football, folks. Enjoy the ride of our recent rise from the ranks of just plain horrible and maybe even above mediocrity! GO BOBCATS!
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The following statements are without a doubt true:

1.) Boo is one of the best QBs Ohio has ever had.
2.) Boo is a big part of our success in 2010.
3.) Boo loves Ohio University as much as any player in recent memory. (plenty of evidence for this)
4.) Boo is an extremely friendly person.
5.) Boo gives a lot to the fans after games.

That said, we should be grateful to this young man for everything he has done for our school and all the hard work he put in to make this trip to New Orleans possible. If he can't play that is unfortunate, but not tragic. The real tragedy is that some of you fail to possess any decency whatsoever.

I agree 100% with this post. I hope he is able to play, but whether he plays or not, he still has my support, and I will continue to appreciate what he has done for the program.
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Well lucky for everyone these people who throw stones from a glass house really DONT MATTER. Boo will do great in life I'm sure and  none of these guys will ever have the opportunity to hire him. Im sure recruits just love how the star qb get massacre on the message board for a few transgressions or slip ups on an otherwise stellar reputation.

Have you checked the recruiting page lately? Looks like we're going to have the best class yet. This is a message board, recruits could careless about  what us armchair QB's are saying. 
Boo has made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it... All the excuses in the world don't mean squat. ie- oh a form wasn't turned in at his internship... BS! Where is the accountability?  Oh well he may not play, but man is he a nice guy... wake up bit****
 Yeah, he's a nice guy, but he's not a leader. A leader would have made sure his academics were taken care of before he recruited fans to go to the game. A leader would've been the first player on that bus...




T-Rodge, 

You seem angry about Boo, did the potatoes leave a bad taste in your mouth?

It must have been something, but it didn't stop your sister from having seconds...lol. Yeah, I'm angry with Boo. Do I want him to play? Yes, more than anything. I'm sure I'll still have a blast in NO, but a bowl victory will be difficult to attain without OUr starting QB.
Yeah, I've been critical of Boo lately, but look at his last few weeks... the fight, the turnovers, now he's not even playing? Everyone on here has been so quick to have his back, which I do admire, but these excuses are beyond funny. Oh the weather was bad- anyone watch Tom Brady destroy the Bears, on the road, in freezing, snowing, and windy conditions? Oh academic services should have held his hand through his internship... Does anyone believe that his situation is HIS fault? Excuses are like a-holes, everybody has one. 
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