I remember when Mallett transferred.  He was already thinking about transferring before Rich Rod was hired.  I heard that he was kind of homesick and wanted to be closer to home.  Of course Rich Rod was the final nail in the coffin, but I he was already contemplating transferring prior to him being hired.  

Sorry, you're wrong. I follow Michigan football as closely as the Cats, and the cupboard was fine. RichRod didn't coach what he had, but instead tried to force his system on the personnel. Besides that, they played NO defense whatsoever.

When you have run out of the tunnel of the big house with the Michigan team and touched the Go Blue banner Flomo, then I will concede that you know more about the inner workings of Michigan Football.

And again, I disagree.  I don't judge a program soley on NFL draftees. 

That's why I think the cupboard wasn't bare.  Carr could coach.  He had a staff that could coach.  He wasn't concerned if a player was a four or five star, he took the best players to fit the program and coached them.  Don't forget, there were not only those that went to the NFL after Rod came, but there were also transfers, and (gasp) something other coaches don't do, Carr rid the cancers that were repeat offenders of substance issues and broke team rules.

Hey!  I just realized that I'm a basketball expert 'cause my father played basketball at Michigan starting 76 years ago (not kidding; he did).

 

Monroe, do you mean your father or grandfather?  That would mean your father started in 1935.  My father was in college in the 1930s, but I'm so much older than you, or at least when I met you you looked so much younger.  Maybe you were a "menopause baby."

Sticking with the subject, I hereby claim I'm a football expert because my father was enrolled at the University of Chicago at the same time as Jay Berwanger, the first Heisman Trophy winner, and he actually saw him play.  Furthermore Dad had a dorm room IN THE FOOTBALL STADIUM!!!!

OCF--It was my father, who's now 94 (so enrolled UMich at 18, 76 years ago).  Otherwise, I dunno I keep thinking that I'm still young...until I see that old guy face in the mirror.

Thanks for the further information, Monroe.  My father was not a varsity athlete, though he did win some kind of intramural boxing award.  He also posed for photos for a book on boxing -- illustrating different types of punches, defense, etc.  All Dad could recall years later about the author of this book was that his last name was Vorhees (not sure of spelling).  I've looked for this book many times in used books stores and online with no success.  Anybody ever see it, please let me know.  Dad passed away in 1984 at age 82.

Great, Monroe, that your father is still "this side of grass" as a friend of my father's, who is now 98, keeps saying on his FB posts.  I suspect that this gentleman is probably the only 98-year-old on FB that knows how to post video clips.  But, after all he is a retired professor from the U.S. Navy Postgraduate School in Electrical Engineering.  This gentleman is also an Ohio alumnus and he grew up in Athens.  He played in the Ohio marching band while in college.  I believe his masters degree is also from Ohio. 

Both my father and the friend I mentioned were WWII vets.  Was your father, Monroe? While I don't like the term "Greatest Generation," I will say they were one our greatest generations along with the patriots of the Revolution and the Boys in Blue in the Late Rebellion and many others as well.  

My father served in the Coast Guard.  His generation was selfless and blows away later ones.  Could the citizens of  the U.S. be more about self-interest now?  If there was an all-encompassing war now we would, as we now do, look to the poorest among us to bear the burden.

Why are we losing our world leadership?  Follow the money.  Money does not = right choices.

Now, to bring this thread back to football:  Who sucks more between miami, kents, 'kron, Beefs, and mh55?