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Posted: 3/4/2011 10:52 PM
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I was reading through the schedule top to bottom, and before I got to the end I dozed off and smacked my head against the desk....

What a joke of a schedule.  I will attend Homecoming, and that is it.  No other opponent is even worth the gas money.  (If Temple and Miami were on Saturdays, I would attend)  Some of your comments are even more hilarious.  BCS bound!?  WHAT?!  Write these two things down: 

  -  We could go 12-0 and not even crack the top 15.
  -  If we do have a good year, and play anyone in the top 40 in a bowl game, we will lose by 2 touchdowns.

This has to be the worst schedule in D-1.  When Rutgers is your 'season', that speaks volumes.


Yea I hear you on the above for the most part. The ability to modify football schedules is limited when 75% of your games are played in conference. With that being said, Ohio can't afford to waste a non-conference game on a WAC or SBC team on an annual basis. I would be okay with a combination of Army, Navy, Duke, Syracuse, BC on a 1 for 1 basis in its place.
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Posted: 3/5/2011 8:56 AM
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Have you been excited to play Michigan since the #1 vs #2 game?

No, not really.  It is still Michigan, and despite what some say, they really do care up there (ask new head coach Brady Hoke).  But they have been so bad lately that I haven't really been all too excited.  I have been more jacked for Wisconsin and Penn State in the last few years, not to mention the game against a top team they typically play (USC, Miami, Texas come to mind).


This is what I love about an o$u fans. Play the sisters of the poor (not my words) in non-conference but try to rationalize it by propping up Miami as a "top team they typically play." Like I told my brothers, neighbors, friends - Miami was not a top team last year.
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Posted: 3/5/2011 4:58 PM
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This is what I love about an o$u fans. Play the sisters of the poor (not my words) in non-conference but try to rationalize it by propping up Miami as a "top team they typically play." Like I told my brothers, neighbors, friends - Miami was not a top team last year.

No argument.  They were not good.  But these games are scheduled years in advance.  tOSU has Virginia Tech, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Georgia on the future schedules.  Who knows how any of them will be when the time actually comes to play...But at least they are playing someone.  When was the last time Florida played a non-conference outside their state?
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Posted: 3/5/2011 7:02 PM
Curious about columbus' Out of conf schedule (recent and shortly upcoming) vs. the likes of USC, UCLA, Nebraska--and where the tough games are played.
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Posted: 3/5/2011 8:38 PM
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Curious about columbus' Out of conf schedule (recent and shortly upcoming) vs. the likes of USC, UCLA, Nebraska--and where the tough games are played.


Nebraska isn't out of conference any more.
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Posted: 3/5/2011 11:56 PM
Seriously?  Do I look like I don't have my M.O.?

Could be that they play out of conf games, though and that, since this thread is really about the games a school chooses (as opposed to the conf games which they must play) that asking the question about Nebraska's out of conf sched is not inapposite.
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Posted: 3/6/2011 10:44 AM
Based upon next years schedule most of us would agree that it's soft.
Therefore most of us are thinking a 10 win season is a lock.
Some of us are expecting Ohio to break into the top 25.
Most think another bowl appearance is a certainty.
Most are probably thinking a MAC Championship is in reach.
Frank is now in control of the scheduling and he has turned the program around.
Having the last 4 games on the ESPN network is great even if it means a mid - week schedule.
This ESPN schedule also says something else about the MAC.
I think the MAC negotiated this schedule with ESPN.
I doubt there is another MAC team having as many games broadcast on ESPN as Ohio.
This schedule also helps in the recruiting nationally.
If we can win 10 or more games including the 4 ESPN televised games,+ the MAC Championship Game, and the bowl game we will have had an incredible year. The program takes another step forward. The fact that the schedule was soft, while factual, becomes less of a talking point. Maybe, just maybe with these results we end the year in the top 25. Time for celebration.



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Posted: 3/6/2011 11:04 PM
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Curious about columbus' Out of conf schedule (recent and shortly upcoming) vs. the likes of USC, UCLA, Nebraska--and where the tough games are played.

What exactly are you asking?
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Posted: 3/7/2011 1:52 AM
My understanding is that columbus' out of conf sched (that part of the sched which is of a school's choosing, unlike in conf games) is generally weak and that they don't often play away from home.

I wonder how their out of conf sched compares with such as USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Texas, etc.  My impression is that USC and UCLA, at least, play tough out-of-conf scheds and including, at times, multiple tough roadies.
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Posted: 3/7/2011 12:44 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
My understanding is that columbus' out of conf sched (that part of the sched which is of a school's choosing, unlike in conf games) is generally weak and that they don't often play away from home.

I wonder how their out of conf sched compares with such as USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Texas, etc.  My impression is that USC and UCLA, at least, play tough out-of-conf scheds and including, at times, multiple tough roadies.


Nebraska's schedule was brutal, way tougher than Ohio States.  Nebraska played at home: Western Kentucky, Idaho, South Dakota State and went on the road to Washington.  Texas was also way tougher than OSU's schedule which is one reason Texas had such a poor season they got physically mauled playing Rice, Wyoming, UCLA, and Florida Atlantic all at home.  Even though Texas went 3-1 in those 4 games the physical toll taken was too much for them to recover from.
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Posted: 3/7/2011 3:27 PM
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My understanding is that columbus' out of conf sched (that part of the sched which is of a school's choosing, unlike in conf games) is generally weak and that they don't often play away from home.

I wonder how their out of conf sched compares with such as USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Texas, etc.  My impression is that USC and UCLA, at least, play tough out-of-conf scheds and including, at times, multiple tough roadies.

None of the top programs play tough road schedules.  Why?  Because they don't have to.  The system is what it is.  I don't like it one bit, but that's another day.

Ohio State has their philosophy, and they stick by it, just like many of the other programs.  Play one high-major program, which is usually a home-and-home (USC, Texas, Miami in the past - VTech, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tennessee in the future), 2 in-state/MAC schools at home, and they'll typically play one game against a not-so good BCS team (Navy, this year it's Colorado).

I'd love to see them axe a MAC team and play a TCU or Boise, but that is not gonna happen.  And you can't argue with their results, as they are now the all-time leader in BCS appearances and wins.

But I'm on record favoring a playoff, which would be nothing short of greatness.
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Posted: 3/7/2011 5:43 PM
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I was reading through the schedule top to bottom, and before I got to the end I dozed off and smacked my head against the desk....

What a joke of a schedule.  I will attend Homecoming, and that is it.  No other opponent is even worth the gas money.  (If Temple and Miami were on Saturdays, I would attend)  Some of your comments are even more hilarious.  BCS bound!?  WHAT?!  Write these two things down: 

  -  We could go 12-0 and not even crack the top 15.
  -  If we do have a good year, and play anyone in the top 40 in a bowl game, we will lose by 2 touchdowns.

This has to be the worst schedule in D-1.  When Rutgers is your 'season', that speaks volumes.


Yea I hear you on the above for the most part. The ability to modify football schedules is limited when 75% of your games are played in conference. With that being said, Ohio can't afford to waste a non-conference game on a WAC or SBC team on an annual basis. I would be okay with a combination of Army, Navy, Duke, Syracuse, BC on a 1 for 1 basis in its place.


The problem is most of these schools aren't going to agree to that. It would be nice if we could just schedule the way everyone thinks we should, but it doesn't work that way. We'd have to give up a ton of money to get the kind of schedules people want. Any time we've had a (bad) BSC school come to Ohio, it's been a two-for-one. I wouldn't even qualify Syracuse or BC as bad. I'm not sure they'd come to Ohio for a two-for-one unless we paid them a lot. We have one-and-ones with Sun Belt and WAC schools because those are the schools who will agree to it.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 9:16 AM
Does anyone know when the starting times for the 2011 schedule will be posted? Also a note about scheduling by schools like osu. Their fans can complain all they want but they must schedule the way they do, not to help us out or for easy wins but too pay for their athletic programs. With 36 varsity sports osu must have at least 7 home games a year or serious cuts would have to be made. Another game against a team like The University of Miami would require a home and home which might leave osu some years with only 6 home games. The same goes with the Big Ten going to a 9 game schedule. That is the whole reason the 12 th game was added, to pay bills. Everyone benifits this way, we get the money by playing the bcs schools and they get the needed exstra home game.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 11:32 AM
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Does anyone know when the starting times for the 2011 schedule will be posted?
Wasn't until June 15 last season.  I'd say around then will be likely for any games that aren't on TV and already slotted.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:45 PM
It will probably be after Ohio State announces their starting times.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:12 PM
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The problem is most of these schools aren't going to agree to that. It would be nice if we could just schedule the way everyone thinks we should, but it doesn't work that way. We'd have to give up a ton of money to get the kind of schedules people want. Any time we've had a (bad) BCS school come to Ohio, it's been a two-for-one. I wouldn't even qualify Syracuse or BC as bad. I'm not sure they'd come to Ohio for a two-for-one unless we paid them a lot. We have one-and-ones with Sun Belt and WAC schools because those are the schools who will agree to it.


UCONN, 2 games, 1 home and 1 away.
www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/mac/ohio/opponents_records.php
Now that I read further in detail, UCONN joined the Big East in 2004, so this deal was probably in the works in the years prior to them joining the BCS.

Actually, that would be it.  We've played Louisville in a 2 home - 2 away series, but that was back in the late 1950s.
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