But Ohio still has the loss. Unless the NCAA rules the games as forfeits, which has not been the way they've been ruling lately.

I was under the impression that Ohio still gets the loss. If you to the College Football Data Warehouse, it takes away the wins from USC for the games tey vacated. But their opponents still get the loss.

pension - yes, $52,000.

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State says it's vacating its wins from the 2010 football season, including the Buckeyes' victory over Arkansas in the 2011 Sugar Bowl.

 

Responding to NCAA allegations over a memorabilia-for-cash scandal that cost former coach Jim Tressel his job, Ohio State says Friday it also is waiving a $250,000 fine it had imposed on Tressel and changing his resignation to a retirement. Through the school, the ex-Buckeyes coach says that he is taking responsibility for the NCAA inquiry, which developed after it was learned Tressel failed to report players receiving improper benefits.

 

The university also is imposing a two-year probation period on the program, which means there would be harsher penalties if any further wrongdoing is discovered.

 

 

So let me get this straight.  OSU is saying Tressel is the only one involved and that the University should not be held accountable.  Accordingly, since this man did such harm to the University on his own, they are not going to fine him $250,000, but rather, they are going to pay him over $50,000 as he retires.

 

Additionally, they have voided all wins from last year and swear, and really mean it this time that should anything else happen in the near future then they are really, really going to come down hard on themselves.

 

What arrogant idiots.

Dominos falling....

Tressel
Pryor
2010 regular season
Sugar Bowl

looking further down the line of dominos...

Multi-year Bowl Ban
Scholarship reductions
Smith fired
Gee resigns

But we.....ARE THE FIRST TEAM FROM OHIO SINCE 1921 THAT OHIO STATE HAS PLAYED AND NOT GOTTEN THE WIN AGAINST!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Well....  Tressel screwed up this one big time.  But, overall if OSU want to consider him a retiree and give him whatever perks that entails (a parking pass or membership to an OSU retirement club or whatever) then I don't think that's a big deal.  In terms of his pension or 401, OSU has no control over that.

Anorris -- If Tressel was in the state pension plans, then OSU has no control over his health care either.  That's all controlled by the state pension plans.  And, they don't care how/why you left employment.   Competence while working does not factor in.   If you have the years of service for benefits, you get them.

Resignation, retirement or even fired, Tressel has his 30 years of STRS in and was a State Employee, so he is entitled to his pension.

As for the OSU game, they simply vacate the wins, we still get the loss.

And you guys are setting your self up for disappointment on this sanction stuff in my opinion. Going to play out like a Nancy Grace show after the Anthony Trial, you will be in disbelief. Sports Illustrated just chimed in that the penalties were reasonable.

It has just been reported that Tressel did not resign but was fired and that the university is paying him a severance.
This is all part of their overall strategy of blaming the coach and only the coach with the hope that they can eloquently present their case that they have removed the rotten apple and this apple acted soley alone. This issue is not a systemic one and therefore their penalty should not be at the level of USC's.
I think it's a good strategy perhaps their only startegy. Good luck guys.
This is not  yesterdays NCAA.
Harsh punishment will be forth coming.




GO BOBCATS

Piney/BC - no surprise that I disagree.  But what you may think is simply blind hatred for OSU playing itself out in wanting/praying for tough penalties is actually based on the fact I am hearing the same rhetoric out of Knoxville as I hear out of Columbus/you - which isn't a good thing for either Knoxville or Columbus.  The husband of a business associate is UT through and through.  Friend of mine is ex-UT women's basketball player.  Both echo the same rhetoric - we got rid of Pearl, the infractions are no big deal, we are cleaning our house and imposing sanctions, etc. Unfortunately, it is a bad time to be under the gun. 

The NCAA has made it clear they want to be tough on those caught breaking the rules - "We need to make sure our penalty structure and enforce­ment process imposes a thoughtful level of concern, and that the cost of violating the rules costs more than not violat­ing them" - Mark Emmert NCAA President.  The NCAA knows everyone is pulling these shenanigans.  But they can't look the other way when they are so out in the open.  Unfortunately, the NCAA has incredible leeway in assigning penalty.  Based on a little fire and a lot of smoke, they can assign pretty tough sanctions.  More than what you would get for tattoos. 

At the end of the day, they know as fact, the answer to three questions. 

Did Tressel/OSU know the players were selling memorabilia, and/or trading for tattoos (both of which are an infraction thus making the players ineligible). Answer is Yes.

And then the two biggies:

Did Tressel/OSU knowingly then allow these players to play.  The Answer is Yes.  Thus the coach knowingly played  ineligible players and knowingly broke the rules. 

Was the coach less than forthright in dealing with the NCAA?  The answer is yes.  When provided the opportunity to come clean, he did not - over and over again.

It is not a question of what they should get, it is what they will get.  The NCAA comes down hard when they have anything to go on - just ask UNC (a second tier program).  And yes, that involved an agent, but do you think the NCAA feels the guy in Columbus is stand-up?

And today's actions regarding Tressel will not help their argument.  We blame the coach.  He alone caused all this. So we got rid of him.  Rescind his $250,000 fine and pay him $50,000.  How convenient that the day he formally falls on the sword with the NCAA he profits $300,000. 

They will not let UT or OSU off lightly.  Will they let them break the rules and punish themselves?  They simply can't.  They come down light - the whole country laughs at them.  They come down hard and Columbus and Knoxville are upset.  Pretty easy choice.  Not justice, just reality.

We'll see in a few months.

If I was the NCAA, part of any punishment would include this:

Ohio State is mandated to play an away game at each of the OOC teams it played in 2010... and forgo any payment for these games.

Now that's punishment. Real punishment.

You know, that is actually a hell of an idea.