MH, that is not a list of the guys on scholarship at all, but probably the spring roster. I do have to admit that I find it somewhat amusing that anyone is so arrogant that they think that the laws of mathematics don't apply to them, but whatever. Obviously if you collect 129 signed letters of intent in a five year period, and have a maximum of 85 of them on scholarship, then a minimum of 44 have to have some reason they are not on the roster. As I explained previously, the reasons can be failure to qualify, having used up their eligibility, quitting due to injuries, transferring, or having their scholarship removed for various reasons including legal issues, grades, etc.

In any case comparing the signed letters of intent with the roster, the following people who signed letters of intent are not on the roster:
1. Acker, Corwin - 2007 - Lost Scholarship after arrest
2. Anderson, Jemarr - 2007
3. Anderson, Kit - 2007
4. Bates, Wallace - 2007
5. Campbell, Michael - 2007
6. Codada, Lloyd - 2007
7. Green, Delano - 2007
8. Grigsby, Marcellous - 2007
9. Howie, Jeffrey - 2007 - Did not qualify
10. Joseph, Elijah - 2007
11. Joseph, Elisha - 2007
12. Kumara, Amara - 2007
13. Parker, Moses - 2007
14. Robinson, Daryl - 2007
15. Schulters, Jamal - 2007
16. Spain, Tyreek - 2007 - Did not qualify, prep
17. Tremel, Chris - 2007
18. Walls, Richie - 2007 - Dig not qualify
19.Weatherspoon, Tommie - 2007
20. Wilkerson, Muhammad - Did not qualify
21. Williams, Jared - Did not qualify
22. Williams, Tommie - 2008
23. Baker, Deven - 2008
24. Cornelius, Tony - 2008 - lost scholarship after legal issues
25. Jackson, Alex - 2008 - Did not qualify in 2008
26. Jones, Maurice - 2008 - Did not qualify in 2008
27. Murray, Ryan - 2008 - Did not qualify, went prep
28. Paulhill, Shahid - 2008 Did not qualify
29. Prather, Geoffrey - 2008 Did not qualify in 2008
30. Rapley, Anthony - 2008
31. Terrell, Marlin - 2008
32. Turner, Lawrence - 2008
33. Wilkerson, Muhammad - 2008 perhaps failed to qualify again?
34. Williams, Jared - 2008 perhaps failed to qualify again?
35. Williams, Josh - 2008
36. Williams, Malcom - 2008 Did not qualify
37. Bohler, Cody - 2009
38. Grant, Elijah - 2009 Did not qualify
39. Hush, Aaron - 2009 Did not qualify in 2009
40. Johnson, Kwame, - 2009
41. Miller, Deon - 2009 Did not qualify in 2009
42. Opoku, Andrew - 2009 Went to U. Conn
43. Parker, Byron - 2009
44. Prather, Geoffrey - 2009 perhaps failed to qualify again?
45. Ryan, Murray - 2009
46. Walters, Jerry - 2009 - Did not qualify, prep
47. Belt, Antonio - 2010 - Did not qualify in 2010
48. Cerett, Andrew - 2010
49. Coble, Adrew - 2010
50. Goods, Marquise - 2010
51. Hush, Aaron - 2010 - Did not qualfy, prep
52. Johnson, Tyler - 2010
53. Ross, Myron - 2010
54. Silvera, Gerald - 2010
55. Smith, Nate - 2010 - Did Not Qualify
56. Walton, Hershey - 2010 Did not qualify in 2010

Considering how bad Temple was back in 2007, it is quite possible that many of those from 2007 played as true freshmen and have used up their eligibility. I'm sure that some of those in the 2008 and 2009 classes may have been Jucos who have also used up their eligibility. On the whole, though, it is quite apparent that the  explanation you gave above is very accurate - Temple is clearing taking a very large number of marginal qualifiers who end up failing to qualify. Note that Ohio takes a couple of those each year, and some end up qualifying, and a few don't, but the numbers they take are far smaller than Temple.

I apologize for the delay in getting time to do this, but, in fact, I do have a life. As you can see, though, the laws of mathematics do still hold true, and the actual number as expected is larger than the minimum of 44. It's possible that I made an error, especially since the link was to a roster, not a list of people on scholarship, but with whatever mistakes fixed, the numbers still has to be a minimum of 44.

OK, accepting that you linked me to inaccurate information, and that Turner, Johnson, Parker, Coble, Goods, and Smiith are all still on scholarship, that brings the number to 50.



I think anyone looking at the above list can see that there are an extremely high number of people who did not qualify in the year they signed their letter of intent. Many of them did become eligible after a year or two of prep school, or Juco, but that still proves the point that Temple is recruiting academic risks. There are also a very high number of people listed as "quitting" for one reason on another, showing that turnover is also high.

Ohio has taken some academic risks, too. I can name a few players that were routed to either Juco or prep school before returning to Ohio, but the numbers are much, much smaller. Similarly Ohio has had some players who quit the team for various reasons, but again, in much smaller numbers.

Thank you for making my point for me, but now I have more important things to worry about.

Even though the roster you linked to does not show those six players, you claim they are still on the team, so I gave you credit for those six. There was no dispute about the others. 56-6=50, not 12. Perhaps you should consider using a calculator instead of attempting to subtract in your head.

Good question - since I started down that path, and he questioned it, I tried to handle it in a legitimate manner, and gave him a straight answer. With that behind me, you are right that there is no reason to continue, since he doesn't seem to have any legitimate points to make. The list is there for everyone to see, along with his explanations for why all the various people signed LOI's for multiple years, and ended up routed through prep schools. Everyone is entitled to make their own conclusions.

MH55....Temple loses to OHIO...every season..Wilkerson had 1 tackle...no sacks vs OHIO in 2010..Ohio returns everyone on the Offensive line. STFU.

Really? Since OU finished a lowly 95th in Total Offense, that works for me. Imagine how low the Bobcats would rank if they didnt get to gnaw on teams like Wofford and Gardner Webb to pad win totals. Have you really gone 50+ years without a post season win ?


 

The fact that a Temple fan points this out is the definition of irony.  Even though you've yet to beat a MAC team with a winning record, you all somehow feel you're deserving of greener pastures.

That said,  I for one sincerely hope Temple does somehow pull off this move.  While it's completely un-warranted, I look forward to the day this board is free of delusional Notre Dame-esque Temple fan...

Probably because the thread on Thompson doesn't have some idiot fueling the discussion by baiting people to respond.  

And clearly the lack of random pictures of cats in the Thompson thread is also keeping views down. 

Oh, and there's the whole math thing that comes into play as well...seeing how this Temple recruit thread is 3x as old.

But hey, thanks for getting this thread to almost 2,000 views.  Ted and I will think of you when we spend the $0.25 it made us in ad revenue.  If you could troll your way into an few more threads, after we pay for our hosting,  we may have enough money for a new Green and White feather boa.

Thanks for responding Ryan...

I vowed a while back to no longer engage in conversations with Mark as the effort accomplishes nothing other than the degradation of my own IQ by association. 

                         Exhibit A...

By the way, #22 is in:Averee Robinson.

He, younger brother of Adrian Robinson, 2009 MAC Defensive Player of the Year, 2011 Bronco Nagurski Watch List, Preseason All MAC'er and veteran of 37 games played,

 

For those of you who would like your XBox NCAA Football '12 with a MAC Flavor

 

OR OF OHIO RB VINCE DAVIDSON HAVING A CAREER DAY VS TEMPLE