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Posted: 3/18/2011 7:17 AM
According to the "Sports Ticker" in today's "The Record" out here in N.J.,Tressel said he deserves the same 5 game suspension that his players got.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 11:56 AM
Doesn't matter what he thinks.  Good PR move, but the NCAA still has to weigh in.  I'm still expecting as a much as a year's suspension.  They will certainly add on games (beyond the 5) and take away the wins from last year (otherwise it looks like they simply deferred to OSU).  Dez Bryant lied to the NCAA and lost a year - a coach should be treated as harshly. 
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Posted: 3/18/2011 12:30 PM
A Dispatch story points out that:

1) Tressel and Smith offered up the 5-game suspension only after learning the NCAA had denied the OSU appeal on the players' suspensions, and

2) Since 2006 12 coaches have been found to have violated the NCAA requirement to report all violations and all but one have resigned or been fired.

Bruce Pearl could be next.  TN's AD, initially supportive of Pearl, now is saying he'll decide on Pearl's future with the school after the tournament.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 1:23 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Bruce Pearl could be next.  TN's AD, initially supportive of Pearl, now is saying he'll decide on Pearl's future with the school after the tournament.


The Bruce Pearl thing may be a bit of grandstanding by the Tenn AD. I can't see Mike Hamilton firing Pearl. Hamilton is already very low in popularity. This would sink him entirely.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Michigan spanks the Vols by 30 in the NCAA, so I can definitely see Pearl working as a TV guy next year...
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Posted: 3/25/2011 3:41 PM
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Posted: 3/25/2011 5:51 PM
Let's see if I have this straight. Tressel said he didn't inform his bosses/employer about these e-mails due to confidentiality. But he did forward them to a mentor of Pryor's in Pa.

Boy, this is getting more and more interesting each week.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/03/25/tressels-emails-were-forwarded.html?sid=101
Last Edited: 3/25/2011 5:52:46 PM by bobcatsquared
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Posted: 3/25/2011 7:48 PM
And then lied about it to the NCAA.  He is gone, and OSU is going to be penalized beyond a slap on the wrist. 
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Posted: 3/25/2011 8:01 PM
Tressel will get fired, and a punch across the face; Ohio A&M will see what Rufus started be finished by the NCAA :)
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Posted: 3/25/2011 8:20 PM
Zero percent chance Tressel gets fired over this.  Don't get me wrong, I think he's as dirty as the day is long but you must recognize the nature of the beast that is Buckeye football idiocy.  Anything, I mean ANYTHING, can can be justified, rationalized or ignored by the folks in this state as long as they beat the Maize and Blue.  It is crazy and sane people don't understand it, but it is fact around these parts.  It is also a big reason why I can't stand the poisonous nuts.  

Go Brady Hoke!
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Posted: 3/25/2011 10:59 PM
You say he doesn't get fired, I say the NCAA threatens the death penalty unless they fire the rogue coach
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Posted: 3/25/2011 11:04 PM
They will sacrifice him as soon as they have to.  And OSU will do so saying, "the institution is innocent and better than this."  And the fans will, say,  whatever the fans can come up with.
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Posted: 3/26/2011 1:36 AM
Bert Presley wrote:expand_more
You say he doesn't get fired, I say the NCAA threatens the death penalty unless they fire the rogue coach
I believe he will be dismissed, however you have no clue of the by-laws regarding the death penalty.
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Posted: 3/26/2011 9:32 AM
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You say he doesn't get fired, I say the NCAA threatens the death penalty unless they fire the rogue coach


I believe he will be dismissed, however you have no clue of the by-laws regarding the death penalty.


Why be condescending in your response?  Adds no value and reflects poorly on you.  Let me fix it for you. 

 

John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
I believe he will be dismissed, either because the University feels it should take the appropriate action and/or because the NCAA threatens further sanctions if he is retained.  The Death Penalty is a result of habitual violations.  Basically, a school needs to already be on probation (or recently been on probation) when another major violation occurs.   Not the case here, but OSU will certainly need to watch itself going forward.


There you go.

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Posted: 3/26/2011 1:54 PM
John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
You say he doesn't get fired, I say the NCAA threatens the death penalty unless they fire the rogue coach


I believe he will be dismissed, however you have no clue of the by-laws regarding the death penalty.


I'd be shocked if he's ever fired. If he is, the whole house comes down.  He's the fall guy and they'll stand next to him regardless of how transparent it is and how bad it looks for the University becuase they have too much riding on it now.  What no one seems to want to write about is why he would have felt he needed to cover this up to begin with rather than just suspend the players for a meaningless non conference game due to an unspecified "violation of team rules" and have it behind them.

The reason is that Tressel and indeed the entire Administration at this point, is scared of upsetting Pryor and him running his mouth.  It's the same reason he's been allowed to act the way he has since he started even though Herbstreit has pointed out how embarassing it is on a number of occassions.

When Rodriguez was hired at Michigan and Pryor's recruiting at A&M actually came into question, you can be sure that recruiting rules were broken to ensure he wasn't lured into that high powered offense.  Now he rules the roost because they don't want another Clarett on their hands.

If Tressel's gone it means there are much more significant things happening at higher levels... 
Last Edited: 3/26/2011 4:44:09 PM by Bobcat36
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Posted: 3/28/2011 11:51 PM
Maybe Tressel is not aware that there is some permanency to email, things put into electronic existence.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 8:34 AM
Go Here:
http://chip-patterson.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/28142828


Recruit talks about getting money handshakes from many schools, including OSU, where some players basically pimped a sexual encounter for him.

I assume this will add to the fire.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 11:36 AM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
Go Here:
http://chip-patterson.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/28142828


Recruit talks about getting money handshakes from many schools, including OSU, where some players basically pimped a sexual encounter for him.

I assume this will add to the fire.
 
It looks to me like there's going to be more than one big name school under investigation.  OSU may just be the first to fall, since they are already in the NCAA cross-hairs.
Last Edited: 3/30/2011 11:36:54 AM by OhioCatFan
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Posted: 3/30/2011 5:46 PM
Tressel is not going anywhere, unless he decides he wants out.  Gee is fully behind him, and Gene Smith is highly respected by the NCAA, so his support does matter.

Today's report is nothing.  Everyone knows kids get $100 handshakes, and BREAKING NEWS:  some girls like to have sex with football players.

The sex thing during a recruiting visit means nothing.  This happens everywhere, and probably even in Athens.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 6:21 PM

It undoubtedly happens elsewhere but when you get caught you pay the price.  As more and more things pile on I think the NCAA has little choice other than to penalize for Lack of Institutional Control which will come with much more severe penalties. 

I wonder how much this kind of thing will hurt recruiting for them.  I hope significantly but my gut tells me not much. 



 

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Posted: 3/30/2011 7:07 PM
Girls like to have sex with football players? I was in the wrong activities.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 8:58 PM
Tressel may not go anywhere - perhaps, but the NCAA will come down hard and heavy on OSU - well beyond the 5 game suspension.  At the least, add in a few more Big Whatever games so that he misses half the Big Whatever season.  Like most Administrators, their loyalty will be fleeting when the heat is on.  I would expect Tressel to resign before being fired (the whole "I don't want to be a distraction" excuse).
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Posted: 3/30/2011 9:12 PM
Ozcat, I have a good friend in Cowtown who has deep connections with the football program over a number of decades.  Just call him "Deep Pigskin." He thinks Smith's job is right now on the line and in jeopardy.  Lots of high level meetings going on, and they are trying to figure out how to get control of this matter.  The thought is that Smith is culpable for not properly controlling his department and its employees.  They may figure out a way to mitigate the damages and come up with less high-profile scapegoats, but then, again, they may not.  They are manning the battle stations up on High Street.  Perhaps, you should offer your services at spin control.  You seem to have a real knack for that line of work. 
Last Edited: 3/30/2011 9:17:59 PM by OhioCatFan
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Posted: 3/30/2011 9:26 PM
Gee and Smith are as dirty as anyone else.  I won't be persuaded that they didn't have a hand in this but are content letting Dr. Sweatervest take the bullet.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 11:39 PM
ALong the same lines, up on yahoo is an interesting article about bowl games (Fiesta especially) shenanigans.  The dollar in massive quantities perverts.

Good to see that Game Five He Quit showed up--not--in Cleveland yesterday.
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