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Posted: 8/12/2011 9:08 AM
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Makes you wonder what they're serving in the A&M executive dining room that they didn't have in Nashville.


A: The highest public University President's salary in the Country...


B: at 2nd largest public University in the Country, so wow that seems out of line with salary.


Are you insinuating that there's some answer other than the tail wagging the dog here?  He instituted a ground breaking model at Vandy to avoid this very sort of issue and then comes up with a quote like "I just hope the coach doesn't fire me" when it arose in an undeniable fashion at O$U.  There is no clearer case of an entire institution being run by the Athletic Dept.

The irony of Tressel's book sales; Gee's "dedication" to academia; Smith being considered as a possible future NCAA President is in a word...Laughable. 
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Posted: 8/12/2011 9:31 AM
So many are concerned about whether the NCAA will impose a bowl ban on the team.  Given OSU's current basketball APR, perhaps the football team will also self impose.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 3:46 PM
Bobcat36 wrote:expand_more
Makes you wonder what they're serving in the A&M executive dining room that they didn't have in Nashville.


A: The highest public University President's salary in the Country...


B: at 2nd largest public University in the Country, so wow that seems out of line with salary.


Are you insinuating that there's some answer other than the tail wagging the dog here? He instituted a ground breaking model at Vandy to avoid this very sort of issue and then comes up with a quote like "I just hope the coach doesn't fire me" when it arose in an undeniable fashion at O$U. There is no clearer case of an entire institution being run by the Athletic Dept.

The irony of Tressel's book sales; Gee's "dedication" to academia; Smith being considered as a possible future NCAA President is in a word...Laughable.
Simple and Gee addressed this hisself when he came back several years ago. OSU is not Vandy, OSU is self supporting financially where Vandy was not, his streamlining at Vandy was a cost cutting too. Vandy also had a much smaller compliance department, this of course did not work.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 3:48 PM
Bobcat36 wrote:expand_more
Makes you wonder what they're serving in the A&M executive dining room that they didn't have in Nashville.


A: The highest public University President's salary in the Country...


B: at 2nd largest public University in the Country, so wow that seems out of line with salary.


Are you insinuating that there's some answer other than the tail wagging the dog here? He instituted a ground breaking model at Vandy to avoid this very sort of issue and then comes up with a quote like "I just hope the coach doesn't fire me" when it arose in an undeniable fashion at O$U. There is no clearer case of an entire institution being run by the Athletic Dept.

The irony of Tressel's book sales; Gee's "dedication" to academia; Smith being considered as a possible future NCAA President is in a word...Laughable.
And you aren't serious that you think the entire University is being run by the Athletic Department. That is not even close to being a fact. OSU like many other great institutions have many great things going on in the Ivory Towers.
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Posted: 8/14/2011 9:44 AM
Very interesting article about Gordon Gee in today's (8/14) N.Y. Times sports' section
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Posted: 8/15/2011 9:51 AM
Interesting indeed...

“Well, I’ve always said that if I tried this at Ohio State, I’d be pumping gas in my hometown of Vernal, Utah. Indeed, I think that it’d be much more difficult, because of the long history and tradition.”
Told to ABC News in 2003, after he introduced athletic reform at Vanderbilt.


Wanny,

I'm not saying the AD decides what dept receives more research funding than another, nor that they decide how to form a curriculum for a given major.  I don't think anyone read it that way either.  What I'm saying, is that they quite obviously have FAR too much power at O$U and that they've been provided FAR too much latitude and that issue sits directly on Gee's shoulders.

The man is an ego maniac (something to which anyone associated with Brown University can attest) and the attention the football program brings to O$U only feeds that weakness.  The way he and Smith have handled this whole deal from day one is flat out insulting.

His decision making has either been driven by an effort to protect his salary or by pure arrogance.  Either way, I personally find it  amusing (and ironic) that the A&M hordes embrace him so willingly.

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