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Posted: 8/3/2011 4:20 PM
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We have had this reputation for decades...even generations.  It was the rep back in '83 when I (and a number of others on this board) graduated.  I remember talking to someone in Pennsylvania in '82 and, during the conversation, they found out I went to Ohio.  They asked if "Ohio was such a big party school?" (they were from the Cleveland area) My answer was that every school is, if the student wants it to be.  I then discussed the quality of the J-school, Mass Comm, engineering, education, etc.  Count me in to the group that says the college should accept the reputation, but present it as a component of the 360 degree we provide.  As far as it hurting our enrollment, I see limited evidence of that. Georgia, Wisc., PSU and others that are also consistently on this list have not experienced a decline in applications.  If we are, I think pointing to a 40-year old party school reputation is an easy, and questionable conclusion.



Make that 50 years......we weren't exactly Otterbein in the 60's.

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Posted: 8/3/2011 6:43 PM
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We have had this reputation for decades...even generations.  It was the rep back in '83 when I (and a number of others on this board) graduated.  I remember talking to someone in Pennsylvania in '82 and, during the conversation, they found out I went to Ohio.  They asked if "Ohio was such a big party school?" (they were from the Cleveland area) My answer was that every school is, if the student wants it to be.  I then discussed the quality of the J-school, Mass Comm, engineering, education, etc.  Count me in to the group that says the college should accept the reputation, but present it as a component of the 360 degree we provide.  As far as it hurting our enrollment, I see limited evidence of that. Georgia, Wisc., PSU and others that are also consistently on this list have not experienced a decline in applications.  If we are, I think pointing to a 40-year old party school reputation is an easy, and questionable conclusion.


I lived in Gam Hall in the mid-60s.  During each school year several times we would invite a sorority or girls dorm to a mixer -  on Saturdays at 8 a.m.  So, yes, the party school rep does go back a tad.

In my mind, the only way that OU could escape its party school rep would be if somehow we could lift the campus and plop it down in a major city where most kids go home for the weekend. 

It would be wise if Rod McDavis invited a group of alums with significant experience in crisis communications and media relations to Athens to discuss a more effective way of dealing with the perennial party school headlines. 

It seems to me that at any school where some 80 percent or more of the students remain on campus on weekends, major partying is likely to happen. 

To me it is that very fact - a high percentage of students remaining on campus on weekends - that contributes to the intense emotional connection that binds alums to our alma mater.  
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Posted: 8/3/2011 9:48 PM
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We have had this reputation for decades...even generations.  It was the rep back in '83 when I (and a number of others on this board) graduated.  I remember talking to someone in Pennsylvania in '82 and, during the conversation, they found out I went to Ohio.  They asked if "Ohio was such a big party school?" (they were from the Cleveland area) My answer was that every school is, if the student wants it to be.  I then discussed the quality of the J-school, Mass Comm, engineering, education, etc.  Count me in to the group that says the college should accept the reputation, but present it as a component of the 360 degree we provide.  As far as it hurting our enrollment, I see limited evidence of that. Georgia, Wisc., PSU and others that are also consistently on this list have not experienced a decline in applications.  If we are, I think pointing to a 40-year old party school reputation is an easy, and questionable conclusion.



Make that 50 years......we weren't exactly Otterbein in the 60's.


True, Doc, but we weren't exactly Miami (Fla.), either.  Back in the 1960s I remember that Florida school being cited most often by fellow Ohio students as the big nationally recognized "party school."  No survey data -- bad or otherwise -- to report, just "word of mouth."  I also remember that some of my student colleagues referred to Marshall as a party school.  By that they seemed to imply that you could party all the time there and still pass your classes because their academic rigor was not as great as ours. It was definitely meant as put down.  My wife recalls a high school government (political science, for you youngins) teacher who told his students in her senior year (1964) that "Miami (Ohio) is the party school, and Ohio University is the booze school."  He went on to prove his point by saying that there were "44 bars in Athens."  I think he counted all the bars in the county to come up with figure, or just plan made it up.  In the end, I'm not sure who sounded better in the comparison he made.  Not the kind of thing that parents want to hear either way.  However, we all know Miami is one of the two major vortexes of suckyness in the known universe.  The other is on a campus in Philadelphia.

Edit:  My wife just checked in her high school year book.  This teacher got his master's degree at Oxford Tech.  B.A. at OWU.
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Posted: 8/3/2011 9:54 PM
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We have had this reputation for decades...even generations.  It was the rep back in '83 when I (and a number of others on this board) graduated.  I remember talking to someone in Pennsylvania in '82 and, during the conversation, they found out I went to Ohio.  They asked if "Ohio was such a big party school?" (they were from the Cleveland area) My answer was that every school is, if the student wants it to be.  I then discussed the quality of the J-school, Mass Comm, engineering, education, etc.  Count me in to the group that says the college should accept the reputation, but present it as a component of the 360 degree we provide.  As far as it hurting our enrollment, I see limited evidence of that. Georgia, Wisc., PSU and others that are also consistently on this list have not experienced a decline in applications.  If we are, I think pointing to a 40-year old party school reputation is an easy, and questionable conclusion.



Make that 50 years......we weren't exactly Otterbein in the 60's.


True, Doc, but we weren't exactly Miami (Fla.), either.  Back in the 1960s I remember that Florida school being cited most often by fellow Ohio students as the big nationally recognized "party school."  No survey data -- bad or otherwise -- to report, just "word of mouth."  I also remember that some referred to Marshall as a party school.  By that they seemed to imply that you could party all the time there and still pass your classes because their academic rigor was not as great as ours.  My wife recalls a high school government (political science, for you youngins) teacher who told his students in her senior year (1964) that "Miami (Ohio) is the party school, and Ohio University is the booze school."  Not sure who sounded better in that comparison. 


Someone told me that the reason we changed from semesters to quarters my sophomore year was that the admins wanted the students off campus during St. Patty's Day........urban legend for sure.....but I do remember someone tearing down a bathroom wall on St. Patrick's Day........I said wall not stall.......at a local establishment.
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Posted: 8/3/2011 9:58 PM
You know, too damn much is made of the party school image.  Yes, it's seen as a negative ... mainly by those schools whose students help contribute to OU's party school image.  90% of the kids who get into trouble at OU are from out of town, usually from O$U, Fiami, BGSUCKS, Toledo and the other schools that are quick to snicker at OU's image.  The fact is, the people from those schools would LOVE to have the kind of good time on their own campus that they have in Athens.  It's not so much that the other schools are better disciplined.  It's more that the atmosphere at those schools is staid and oppressive. 

As many others here have said, the ranking shows that OU offers a more rounded experience.  It shows that you can get a first-class education and still have a good time.  Nobody questions that other schools on the list -- Georgia, Ole Miss, Iowa, WVU, Penn State, Florida State and Florida -- offer nothing but the best in education.  OU gets put down largely because of the f-ing snobbery that exists in Cowtown and the Seven Mile Suburb.  It makes them feel better about their own shortcomings.
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Posted: 8/3/2011 10:24 PM
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Nobody questions that other schools on the list -- Georgia, Ole Miss, Iowa, WVU, Penn State, Florida State and Florida -- offer nothing but the best in education. 


I question whether WVU offers the best in education.
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Posted: 8/4/2011 9:21 AM
For what it's worth, Wabash College is one of the schools coming ahead of our 6th place rating for athletic facilities.

And also, while admitting that there are parents who will not allow their child to attend Ohio for a party image, there are others that may not allow their child to attend a host of other schools for a host of other, equally capricious and arbitrary reasons. For instance, my parents, who forbade going to Cincinnati because of all the rapes. Or myself in 10 years, who will forbid attending Miami because it sucks.
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Posted: 8/4/2011 10:42 AM
Liquor & parties are all part of the college experience.
As a '71 grad I vividly remember the drinking @ THE LANTERN as being part of college life. It was 3.2% beer but who cared? All paraents knew college students drank. With todays new medium for news and unnessessary information we tend to play up the negatives first.
Sure there will be some parents that might not like this behavior, but it exists and it won't be changing anytime soon.
Our campus is 20,000 and not all are drinkers, and no one is forcing anyone to drink. My daughter attends Providence College, 5,000 students, and she informs me that drinking is a way of life there and that while the school attempts to reduce this behaivor it has met with little success.
Yes, this poll is not scientific and with just 300 some odd respondents it is doubtful that it would even qualify as a large enough samplying to draw any meaningful conclusions.
So it's time to get over this ranking and move on the things that are important, like sports and winning.




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Posted: 8/4/2011 12:32 PM
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Posted: 8/4/2011 1:34 PM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/264454/nbc-today-show-princeton...-

Our friends over at the Today Show made sure they mentioned the excellence of our academic programs while covering the party school ranking. I think this clip really is a great representation of how this can be a positive thing. Yes, we are a party school. But we also have the chance to let people know about our great academics and to flash pictures of our beautiful campus on national television.
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Posted: 8/24/2011 7:50 AM
Just changed the OU parking hang tag on the car this morning and got a good chuckle.  As much as OU tries to disavow the party school image, what do they print on the hang tags for the next two years - Rufus with nine kids "partying" in a convertible.  Now they're not drinking or anything but this picture is very similar to the ones that depicted the top 20 party schools in various media reports.  Don't get me started on diversity either - 9 white kids in the photo.  
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