There was NOT close to 4700 people at that game. I know you don't set the attendance, just stating, that figure is a joke.

All I'm talking about Alan is trying to have the best facilities in place for the program that it could have. It could have a basketball practice facility and it could have a better student section at the football stadium. The Convo at the time it was built was the most state of the art arena possible at that time.

Enrollment is going back up. The university recently approved a $200 million dollar package to finish the dorm renovations. Peden could have a bigger, better student section so the kids have plenty of concessions and don't have to sit on the hill for big games. They after all are paying a student fee and should get something for it. Some of that student fee could be used to pay for it.

Its heading back to 16,000 Alan there was a record class last year.

I truly believe for some of those big games the students that are forced to sit on the mound or stand don't come back.

The larger point here is the university hasn't appeared very serious providing the very best possible with regard to athletic facilities. McDavis did say the university wanted to strengthen the academic footprint first and that is what they've done with the new STEM buildings and now the dorms have been renovated. Ridges as we discussed is going down the private-partnership route for the remaining of its redevelopment.

This leaves the athletics mall as the remaining area that is underdeveloped. As Ohio69 said it depends on what the next president at OU wants to do but since there isn't anything else to do we might hear something on the athletics facilities front relatively soon. Nothing else is going to make a difference and if the course of action is to do nothing it becomes a choice of doing nothing or doing something.

I'm saying do something if you can rather than do nothing. Hobble along with one working hydro pool and do nothing about. Don't fortify Boals and TA's programs with enhanced facilities. Its not necessarily wrong to do nothing but I'm offering a perspective of trying to do something instead of waiting forever. UC made a decision 30 years ago they were going to invest heavily in athletics and it paid off.

The new hydrotherapy pools are expected to cost $900k minimum. They are actively raising the money. Why not donate a few shekels?

We have hydrotherapy pools for "indoor" sports...at the Convo.

The pools and surrounding infrastructure in Peden need to be gutted. They serve football, cross country, etc.

Just saying it should be a "sunk" cost for ICA doesn't magically make the funds appear. The donation stream to Ohio Athletics is pathetic.

Yes, we have hydro pools at the Convo, they were installed when with the training room renovation. The Peden pools, are old and outdated and need replaced.

Agree 100% DC!!

What you fundamentally don't understand is how pay works in the mid major conferences.

In the mid majors when a coach does something like win a bowl or a conference championship they are then deemed worthy enough to receive an extension to put their pay package near or at the top of the conference. For example the lower paid coaches in the MAC make around 500,000 and the better ones make around 1 million.

When that said coach making the 1 million leaves for a better offer somewhere else the same school typically starts the next guy over at 500,000 to avoid the risk the next staff isn't successful and is overpaid. When the previous coach was raised to 1 million it also resets the buyout higher to 1 million so by leaving the school receives back that buyout which is a net positive.

Its the same thing in basketball wtih mid major leagues like the MAC, A10 and MVC where the more senior/successful coaches have a bigger salary and the newer entrants are paid toward the lower end of the scale.

That is why I'm saying the path to build up your program is to extend a coach (when he deserves it) to put his salary up in the Top 3 of the conference (which also pumps up the buyout). TA is 13-13 with 2 more years on his contract so I think extending him is premature IMO.

Boals I don't understand what is going on there with his program. What has hurt him with an extension IMO has been the pandemic and university struggling during that time with the president quitting and now we have an interim president who is expected to resign in the next 6 months.

For some of the presidential churn reasons athletics may be kept quiet so the next president can make his mark on the department. To me its perfectly fine to wait another 6 or 9 months on coaching extensions given the situation in Cutler Hall. Boals also is not having a great year so far so that delays the urgency on his end for an extension.

Coaching salaries always have a risk involved that the coach doesn't pan out and will have to be replaced. Its great when you can get into a Solich type situation where he delivered for an extended time and was for a while at least the highest paid coach in the MAC.

Its facilities pay the longer term dividends for a program. All the best G5 recruiting programs have put in better facilities. Fiami's recruiting shot up when the put in that new football operations facility. Ohio's recruiting didn't improve that much but I think its development did with the IPF as the offensive output has jumped since 2014.

Coaches can be fired before conference championship week but the hiring decisions are made after. Extend Albin next year if he has a winning season going into championship week. There isn't any risk of him moving elsewhere before that and beyond that risk is low unless he wins the MAC.

Boals maybe with an extension by the end of the summer with a new OU president on board. He only has 1 more year and Albin has 2.

3 year extension plus 100k raise should be sufficient. Also bump up the assistants. Unless the season completely tanks from this point forward. Trajectory at the moment is winning record and cracks additional wins in Cleveland + CBI/CIT.

Coach Albin will get an extension and it could be that this Bobcat Attack board will be the last to find out. I doubt Ohio University administration gives a rats blankety blank what this message board thinks.