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Topic: Where will the Ohio and the MAC be in five years? Intelligent, realistic input...please.
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Monroe Slavin
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Posted: 10/31/2011 3:39 PM
How much are season tickets for OHIO football or hoops?  How much are they for the schools with which you conference-movers would have us join?

There's your answer.

As they told us re Watergate...
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Posted: 10/31/2011 3:45 PM
See other thread for interest in increasing funding.

FYI - ECU ranges from $150 to $300
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Posted: 10/31/2011 8:17 PM
Cat4ever wrote:expand_more
Even here at BA.com, there are comments exuding little sensitivity or thought about similar "backyard brawls." I find self-absorption way too prevalent: It's all about ME.

The depiction of EMU as one of the weaker teams is steeped in (you choose which): [1] lack of research; [2] lack of common sense; or [3] amnesia.

At one of the many times when OUr program was stinking worse than the air around the Brunswick, Ga., paper mills, Eastern Michigan saved the singular bowl alliance the MAC enjoyed (California Bowl). And even this year, if there is a "Michigan Cup" among the three MAC teams in the state, EMU would claim it.


The problem with EMU isn't how much they do or don't win - it's how much they don't draw.  Ohio has at least shown the ability to legit average 15 - 17k fans per game, and 20k plus when you get a big time game/team into Peden.  If EMU wins the 'Michigan Cup" this year, does anybody really care?
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Posted: 11/1/2011 9:06 PM
I just hope that, in 5 years, we can come up with better conference commercials than a girl in an ER performing CPR on a dummy while watching a women's basketball game. If Marshall was still in the MAC, the conference would be facing a lawsuit in West Virginia over it.
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Posted: 11/2/2011 11:07 AM

 The sad truth is, that in 5 years the MAC will be exactly where it is now. It'll be a low-level FBS conference that plays in low-level bowl games, and if/when there is a playoff structure added to FBS, MAC teams will have to go undefeated in order to be considered for an at large spot, if such a thing exists. 

I agree with others here that there wont be an official "mid-level" division created between FBS and FCS, but in essence, that's what the MAC already is, and that's what it will continue to be. MAC teams aren't actually eligible for the FBS National Championship, and even if a playoff structure is added, they still wont be. So, like I said, in essence, we're already in that fictional mid-level division. And what do we get out of it, exactly? Higher operating costs. Hell of a deal. 

So my answer is: The MAC will be exactly where it is now.

But what we should be doing, is dropping a division and looking to replace UMASS in the CAA. After UMASS leaves, it's been pretty well speculated that the remaining Northeastern CAA teams will look to join the NEC, meaning that UNH, URI, and Maine will also be leaving the CAA. If the CAA slotted us into UMASS's spot, and then sought to add schools like Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Duquesne (for geographic purposes) we'd then be in the dominant FCS conference and regularly competing for a national title in a conference full of schools that match us better academically. Ask yourself: would you rather be associated with Akron, Eastern Michigan, and Toledo? Or William & Mary, Richmond, and Villanova? Academically, there's simply no question that a drop to the CAA would be a better fit. And the added benefit, is that our football program wouldn't be playing in a system in which the success we have isn't adequately rewarded. I, for one, think seeing an FCS Football National Championship banner hanging in the Convo would instill far more student pride than maybe winning the whatever sucker marketing department sponsored the Detroit bowl game from time to time. 

Or, we can keep pretending that we're gonna end up in C-USA or the Big East. We have two options: sit here until we're inevitable the last kid picked for the big kids dodgeball game, or pick up the ball and start our own game, by our own rules. 

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Posted: 11/2/2011 11:31 AM
I don't think moving down to the CAA make sense. We are hosting a game on ESPN (not the deuce or the U) from our home stadium tonight. Moving up to a 34,000 stadium to host BCS schools in the non-conference is the way to go. Ohio shouldn't even be looking at CUSA or the Big East. The long term target should be the ACC or Big XII because that is where Pittsburgh and West Virginia play. Its possible as the school continues to grow in enrollment and builds tradition in football. Athens is a small market but Ohio is a large population state. Ohio isn't Maine or New Hampshire with only 1 million folks living in it. That is why those schools are at the FCS level. Ten years ago I think you could have said Ohio could NEVER play in a BCS conference. These days schools are upgrading every couple of years. 
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Posted: 11/2/2011 1:26 PM

Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
I don't think moving down to the CAA make sense. We are hosting a game on ESPN (not the deuce or the U) from our home stadium tonight. Moving up to a 34,000 stadium to host BCS schools in the non-conference is the way to go. Ohio shouldn't even be looking at CUSA or the Big East. The long term target should be the ACC or Big XII because that is where Pittsburgh and West Virginia play. Its possible as the school continues to grow in enrollment and builds tradition in football. Athens is a small market but Ohio is a large population state. Ohio isn't Maine or New Hampshire with only 1 million folks living in it. That is why those schools are at the FCS level. Ten years ago I think you could have said Ohio could NEVER play in a BCS conference. These days schools are upgrading every couple of years. 

Oh, we're hosting a game on ESPN tonight? Sweet. In August, Colerain High School did that, too. Maybe they should hold out for the Big XII?

 

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