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Posted: 11/6/2011 11:34 AM
well said wellston. The people who were thrown out were students sitting in about row 20, section 104. Yeah they dropped the f bomb a couple of times and had had a couple but still it wasn't bad. They were cheering and I thought they were great. If that is offensive people need to go too a michigan home hockey game(I am on the 19th). Now that is some rather colorful language. Funny thing is though that nobody including the opposing teams take any offense to it there. What is it the coach at colorado said a few years ago? "this is division 1 football". I know you shouldn't get carried away but if fans just want to sit there and not listen to it at all then stay home and watch it on tv. A large number of the bluehairs who complain about people standing and cheering don't stay for the whole game. Many leave at halftime like the students. As it turned out the people who complained the other night left themselves after the third quarter. That being said I have seen worse. I was at  Ohio Wesleyan soccer and lacrosse games where fans of the opposing teams were thrown out for being negative. Not using the f bomb or even cursing, but being negative. One of the fans I saw ejected was the mother of a opposing player. People need to lighten up, it's college sports, have fun or stay home. As for the sticks I understand the argument against them, god help you if use them in section 104. I still enjoy hearing them though. Those two wasted timeouts they helped cause in the first half might have made a difference in how the half ended.
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Posted: 11/6/2011 11:43 AM
First Street Forever wrote:expand_more
Somebody get a hold of marketing tell them no more promotions no changeing uniforms.


Uh... did anyone in this thread make a comment about the uniforms? Or the blackout T-shirts?

My problem is with Thundersticks. Please don't try to lump in everything together to help bolster your argument. 

For the record:

I like the black unis. No, not traditional, but they looked cool. 

I like the blackout T-shirts. I really was proud of how the blackout looked. I said to myself, "wow, they actually pulled it off. This school's fan base has made alot of great progress. Thanks to Solich, McDavis, Russ, Rob, the marketing team, TT... wait, what are those things in their hands. Uh oh..."

I don't like Thundersticks (read previous posts).

I'm sorry i should have said make sure that marketing  checks with you to make sure the items are up to your standards. Heaven forbid it is something you do not like. I hope they clear anything they have planned for the next game with you. On another note a turkey that gobbles when you shake it would be awesome(before you jump me i'm just kidding )






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Posted: 11/6/2011 5:39 PM
Seems be to a disconnect on why the "Anti" Thunderstick contingent does not like them.

We do not like them because THEY DO NOT MAKE NOISE!

WE DO LIKE NOISE!

That is the reason that they are used at Basketball games, and rarely at football games. At a basketball game they are a visual distraction to opposing team shooter at foul line (why you don't see them all around an arena - just in seats behind the basket). The same fans can yell and scream as well - to make NOISE.

At a football game - all they achieve is obstructing the view of OUR fans, while at the same time MAKING ZERO DISTRACTING NOISE for the opposing team. You might be able to hear the minimal "clap" if right in your ear - but even hundreds of them in unison is not at all audible 50 yards away on top of even minimal vocal crowd noise! I can't figure out where they got the misappropriate name - nothing "thunder" about 'em.
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Posted: 11/6/2011 10:26 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Seems be to a disconnect on why the "Anti" Thunderstick contingent does not like them.

We do not like them because THEY DO NOT MAKE NOISE!

WE DO LIKE NOISE!

That is the reason that they are used at Basketball games, and rarely at football games. At a basketball game they are a visual distraction to opposing team shooter at foul line (why you don't see them all around an arena - just in seats behind the basket). The same fans can yell and scream as well - to make NOISE.

At a football game - all they achieve is obstructing the view of OUR fans, while at the same time MAKING ZERO DISTRACTING NOISE for the opposing team. You might be able to hear the minimal "clap" if right in your ear - but even hundreds of them in unison is not at all audible 50 yards away on top of even minimal vocal crowd noise! I can't figure out where they got the misappropriate name - nothing "thunder" about 'em.


Your ears must work different than mine.  I could hear the thundersticks from the other side of the field just fine as well as the ones on my side.  I thought at times in the first half they had a deafening sound.  Certainly looked like they disrupted Temple a few times.
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Posted: 11/6/2011 10:28 PM
Give it up, the students love them. And you may not believe it, but one can yell and bang those things at the same time (I'm living proof!)
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Posted: 11/6/2011 10:39 PM
Regardless of the sound...the 2011 version of black thundersticks with white Bobcats looks really good on TV among all the black clad students.  The picture of a packed student section all in black with the sticks is a new bobcat classic.  I have never seen a more impressive fan base photo from a MAC school.  

There are some great classic photos of the players in front of the student section.  
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Posted: 11/7/2011 12:02 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Seems be to a disconnect on why the "Anti" Thunderstick contingent does not like them.

We do not like them because THEY DO NOT MAKE NOISE!

WE DO LIKE NOISE!

That is the reason that they are used at Basketball games, and rarely at football games. At a basketball game they are a visual distraction to opposing team shooter at foul line (why you don't see them all around an arena - just in seats behind the basket). The same fans can yell and scream as well - to make NOISE.

At a football game - all they achieve is obstructing the view of OUR fans, while at the same time MAKING ZERO DISTRACTING NOISE for the opposing team. You might be able to hear the minimal "clap" if right in your ear - but even hundreds of them in unison is not at all audible 50 yards away on top of even minimal vocal crowd noise! I can't figure out where they got the misappropriate name - nothing "thunder" about 'em.


Your ears must work different than mine.  I could hear the thundersticks from the other side of the field just fine as well as the ones on my side.  I thought at times in the first half they had a deafening sound.  Certainly looked like they disrupted Temple a few times.


This.  I'm unable to attend many games since I live in L.A.  But thanks to modern electronics I see almost all of them.  temples four days ago and two years ago (with a much sparser crowd) are the only times I can remember OUr fans actually getting involved enought (noise!) to give us a home field advantage.

We are good enough that no one should beat us in Peden.  Won't happen, though, without the noise.
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Posted: 11/7/2011 9:21 AM
I find it hilarious that people actually want the thundersticks to go.  First off we make double the amount of noise with them on a gameday than we do without them.  And since our fans don't make that much noise in the first place that is huge.  Also for people who can't yell all game it is a nice and easy way to make some noise.  I'm sorry but I fall in that category, I used to yell like no business in high school and college, but my voice box just doesn't seem to do well with it now.  I can barely make it to halftime if I really go all out, I seem to only do well at Crew games because the yelling is more singing/chanting, thus the voice box doesn't take as much of a pounding it seems.   
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Posted: 11/7/2011 10:13 AM
Since I only get to one game a season, how many times have thundersticks been distributed? I am aware of two since Solich has been coaching.
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Posted: 11/7/2011 10:16 AM
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Since I only get to one game a season, how many times have thundersticks been distributed? I am aware of two since Solich has been coaching.


Usually at least two times a year. 
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Posted: 11/7/2011 12:28 PM
Thanks...didn't realize it was that frequent.
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Posted: 11/7/2011 5:41 PM
Actually the last time this year that they distributed thundersticks it was not to every person, but only the first 1,000 or something like that.  By the time we arrived, about a half hour before game time, they weren't handing them out any more.  This is the first time that I can remember since either the Pitt game or, maybe the Akron MAC East clinching game, that they've been handed out to all comers. 
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Posted: 11/8/2011 8:41 AM
No one handed them to me and I didn't see them being handed out - at least inside the gates. ( I did, however, come away with a very nifty scarf.) 

My first inkling about thundersticks came when the guy behind me stuck his in my ear.  I pretended not to notice that but then he smacked the d%$# things together right above my ear and it was on!

Next time they are being distributed, I think I will bring my old chalkboard and scratch it with my nails repeatedly at every opportunity.  See, that noise doesn't bother me.  Does it bother you?  Seriously?
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Posted: 11/8/2011 12:06 PM
I think the students have decided beforehand which games they will get excited for and which ones they'll just sit on their hands for. the Marshall game didn't seem to have nearly as many thundersticks, but the students were loud loud loud anyway... and instead of a stupid boing boing boing sound, there was a palpable roar to the crowd.

Basically, I think the students before Marshall and before Temple were pretty amped up for the game, and for Kent (didn't even show) and Ball (showed but slept off their hangovers). Would thundersticks have made a difference at either of those events? Highly doubt it. To say that thundersticks play a greater role in determining how jacked the crowd is going to be versus, say, whom Ohio is playing or what is riding on the game, is ludicrous.

Not to mention, a crapload of plastic just ended up in the nearest landfill.
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Posted: 11/8/2011 1:52 PM
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No one handed them to me and I didn't see them being handed out - at least inside the gates. ( I did, however, come away with a very nifty scarf.) 

My first inkling about thundersticks came when the guy behind me stuck his in my ear.  I pretended not to notice that but then he smacked the d%$# things together right above my ear and it was on!

Next time they are being distributed, I think I will bring my old chalkboard and scratch it with my nails repeatedly at every opportunity.  See, that noise doesn't bother me.  Does it bother you?  Seriously?


I think they only gave out a box or two to the "old" side of the field.  Just like most freebies they hand out most of them at the student gate, we have tickets in the Family Area and the first thing we do when we get inside is check to see if they are handing anything out at the student gate. 

I for one love the thundersticks, makes one person alot louder on third downs.  Our fans have no idea when to yell or when we need to get extra loud they start way to early and end up getting quiet before the other team gets up on the line.  And before everyone on here says "hey I get loud!", people/fans like the folks on this board are not the majority inside Peden, we ARE growing in numbers but there are still WAY too many folks on the tower side who come to the games sit on their hands and just wait to watch the band. It is sad that we have had visiting fans fill that small wing section, make more noise then the rest of Peden.

Till we can get the WHOLE place to make some noise, I would rather hear hump, hump, hump of the sticks than hear crickets.  
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Posted: 11/8/2011 2:05 PM
So, do we get the Rally Monkey to jump up and down via the scoreboard on third downs also?  Aren't the Rally Monkey and thundersticks supposed to be used together?
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Posted: 11/8/2011 7:19 PM
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So, do we get the Rally Monkey to jump up and down via the scoreboard on third downs also?  Aren't the Rally Monkey and thundersticks supposed to be used together?


Bring on the monkey rally cat whatever it takes.On another note to other posters on here. If you don't like the other fans haveing fun too bad. If you don't like the noise earplugs are easy to find. If you like to whine and complain you have found the place. say hi to lots of other closed minded "my way or no way " people
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Posted: 11/8/2011 7:20 PM
Praise be to your respective higher power that there is only one more home game this season, and for the most part that students won't be there to bang two pieces of inflated plastic together.  This is silly. 
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Posted: 11/8/2011 8:53 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
That is the reason that they are used at Basketball games, and rarely at football games. At a basketball game they are a visual distraction to opposing team shooter at foul line (why you don't see them all around an arena - just in seats behind the basket). The same fans can yell and scream as well - to make NOISE.


I'm 95% sure there have never been thundersticks passed out at a basketball game.

I'm also 97% sure that's because it's against NCAA rules to pass out artificial noise makers at a basketball game, or something along those lines.  
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Posted: 11/8/2011 10:20 PM
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That is the reason that they are used at Basketball games, and rarely at football games. At a basketball game they are a visual distraction to opposing team shooter at foul line (why you don't see them all around an arena - just in seats behind the basket). The same fans can yell and scream as well - to make NOISE.


I'm 95% sure there have never been thundersticks passed out at a basketball game.

I'm also 97% sure that's because it's against NCAA rules to pass out artificial noise makers at a basketball game, or something along those lines.
Maybe not "thundersticks" at B Ball games - but the things that look like them that are waived as distraction. Though the "thundersticks" from my experience at F Ball games is that they make so little noise they may not actually violate any noise rule.............

If they really get that many all geared up - well clippy clap away!
Last Edited: 11/8/2011 10:25:18 PM by RSBobcat
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Posted: 11/9/2011 2:53 AM
I am totally against thundersticks, waving the hankies, and anything else that is completely artificial at a game. To me, people are acting as if they are at a six-year-old's birthday party. Simon says........... Pound your thundersticks !!!

The best game atmosphere is where the fans are cheering for their home team and cheering when something good happens down on the field, not waiting for the next moment when the scoreboard tells them it is now time to bash their thundersticks together, or its time to wave their hankies.

It is so sad to watch an NBA playoff game these days and everyone in the arena is so interested in their thundersticks instead of cheering the team.

As for pounding those sticks behind the basket when an opposing player is shooting a free throw - I have never ever seen it be the cause of a missed free throw.
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Posted: 11/9/2011 9:03 AM
Some of you need a swig from the fountain of youth.  I imagine you are the same folks that sit on your butts the enitre game in the Tower Club seats.  BTW, it was nice to see 95% of that section sitting down and not applauding for Bob Walter while he was getting recognized on the field during a timeout.  Why does that section get up and cheer wildly for the volleyball team, but not even give a golf clap to the guy that is single-handedly helping each of you pay less for your seats?  Maybe if those of us that are self-appointed "great fans" did a better job of living up to our own hype, we wouldn't need gimmicks like thundersticks.

I brought a neighbor kid to the Temple games (9 yrs. old) that had only gone to two WVU games in his life.  This was his 3rd college football game ever.   He is still talking about what an awesome game it was and the Ohio Bobcats are his favorite team now.  He is begging his dad to buy tickets for basketball and carrying his thundersticks around the neighborhood.  It may seem dumb to the old timers, but sometimes this stuff works.  We need our students to be there and we need to attract the casual fan.  Otherwise, our venues will be empty just like every other school in the MAC.
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Posted: 11/9/2011 10:31 AM
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Some of you need a swig from the fountain of youth.  I imagine you are the same folks that sit on your butts the enitre game in the Tower Club seats.  BTW, it was nice to see 95% of that section sitting down and not applauding for Bob Walter while he was getting recognized on the field during a timeout.  Why does that section get up and cheer wildly for the volleyball team, but not even give a golf clap to the guy that is single-handedly helping each of you pay less for your seats?  Maybe if those of us that are self-appointed "great fans" did a better job of living up to our own hype, we wouldn't need gimmicks like thundersticks.

I brought a neighbor kid to the Temple games (9 yrs. old) that had only gone to two WVU games in his life.  This was his 3rd college football game ever.   He is still talking about what an awesome game it was and the Ohio Bobcats are his favorite team now.  He is begging his dad to buy tickets for basketball and carrying his thundersticks around the neighborhood.  It may seem dumb to the old timers, but sometimes this stuff works.  We need our students to be there and we need to attract the casual fan.  Otherwise, our venues will be empty just like every other school in the MAC.


Well said 695.
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Posted: 11/9/2011 2:14 PM
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We are good enough that no one should beat us in Peden.  Won't happen, though, without the noise.


I got a problem with a statement like that. How does one pretty much say that our, sorry, OUr team won't win without crowd noise at Peden? Kinda insulting to the effort these student athletes put in. Telling them that a positive result of their efforts is contingent upon fan noise? Deeply troubling to read...

I think that OUr team is good enough that no one (in the MAC) should beat us in Peden... even if the crowd sat on their hands, kept their mouths shut, deflated their Thunderstix and all vacated at halftime. 


Last Edited: 11/9/2011 2:15:54 PM by First Street Forever
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Posted: 11/9/2011 9:18 PM

From a perspective of pure logic, divorced from human experience, you are correct.

But most people are human.  So, the emotional factor plays in.

That loss to Ball State a few weeks back (on homecoming, right)?  How do we lose that one?  Logically, there's no way.

Not saying that with a rabid home crowd we for sure have the advantage to pull that close one out.  But....

Last Edited: 11/9/2011 9:18:50 PM by Monroe Slavin
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