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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:59 PM
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Just in time for some other coach to deal with the NCAA problems that are likely to develop. 


Why do people say this? Bowden has been a coach at four universities and as far as I know there have been no major NCAA violations.


Bowden told a reporter in 2003 that his players were receiving 12 to 15k to sign with the Tigers during his first two years as head coach in 1993 and 1994. Bowden claims he stopped the practice. He did not report the violations at the time. More interestingly, he left the program because of a spat with Auburn's lead booster.

At the least, Bowden didn't self report major violations. I'm suspicious of his story because Auburn has persistently had a pay for play that stretches from the 1950s to Cam Newton. I don't think Bowden miraculously made that program lily white during his stay.
 
As he said in his 2003 interview, as Auburn's head coach, you look the other way and thank the booster for supporting the program.
 
Auburn gave Bowden a 1.5m settlement to go quietly.Iin exchange for the cash, he was given a gag order.
 
The SEC is one gooey, sticky, foul mess.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:02 PM
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Infocision should be packed for most of their home games, so the Zippos should at least lead the MAC in attendance next year.


What makes you say that?


Like Solich did here, he'll draw a lot of local and national interest during the first year.  They'll likely use him to juice up season ticket sales and there'll be lots of excitement around the team at least through the warm weather months.  If they get 25,000+ for each of their first three or four home games, they should have the best home attendance even if they don't have a great record.  If they win more than 2, most everyone up there should be satisfied.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:18 PM
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Scumbag athletic department hires scumbag to replace guy they fired in scumbag fashion.

Typical Akron, they are the rubbish of the MAC.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:24 PM
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Rubbish..Scumbag..all that goes away when you WIN. Coach Solich is a great great man however if he goes 1-10 next year people will scream for job here in Athens. 
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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:31 PM
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I"m not weighing in whether or not Terry Bowden is a scumbag (looks to me like he probably isn't), but winning doesn't erase scumbag status.  Just look to Cowtown to see a recently deposed winning scumbag.  Also, he was a known scumbag at Y-state, where he also a winner.  Also, there are lots of losers who aren't scumbags -- PaPaL at Ohio is a good example.  Stan Parrish at Ball State was a loser, but he's never been accused of being a scumbag.  For the record, he was the first coach to be a winner at Marshall post-crash.  Neither winning nor losing changed his status as a non-scumbag.  You just have it all wrong.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 12:10 AM
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Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
Rubbish..Scumbag..all that goes away when you WIN. Coach Solich is a great great man however if he goes 1-10 next year people will scream for job here in Athens. 
Only the ones who have whiplash from changing their minds so often.  These people's opinions should be taken with a salt block, anyways.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 10:18 AM
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I do think this is a hire that should excite a fanbase, BUT....if reports are to be believed, Bowden was Akron's 3rd or 4th choice. A "GREAT" hire should not be your 3rd or 4th choice.

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Posted: 12/29/2011 12:36 PM
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When he used "dad-gum" in his press conference with a twinkle in his eye, I nearly wretched. Terry Bowden is a good football coach. I think he means well. I think his dad meant well.

Not saying he's a scumbag. He's simply a BCS-level college football coach...which REQUIRES selective vision. I don't think guys who are great football coaches set out to cheat. I think they learn as soon as they reach a certain level that it is a requirement to win.

Luckily and unluckily for him, Akron won't even offer the temptation to cheat.  He'll have to shine that turd of a program with every ounce of honest energy he has.

This might work, but it also reeks of desperation. If he doesn't win within three years, he'll high-tail it out of there. If he does win, within three years he'll high-tail it out of there.

There's no way he's going to be in Akron, Ohio, for a decade.

Ohio had the great fortune of being Solich's native state. Bowden saw this as his one last chance to get back to the big-time. Turn this around quickly, maybe he can squeeze a C-USA  job out of it in three years.
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Posted: 12/29/2011 1:23 PM
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Word on the street is that Bowden would only take the job if he could bring along SBH as Director of Football Media Operations. 
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Posted: 12/29/2011 6:07 PM
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Give the guy a chance.  I highly doubt his plan is to come into a MAC school and burn ethics books for fun.  Get upset if someone tries to hire Tressel
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Posted: 12/29/2011 8:18 PM
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I saw one story claiming that Bowden approached Akron, not the other way around.  Anyway, I don't expect him to buy a house in Akron.  If he can make a winner out of them in three or four years, he'll be gone to a Big 6 conference school.  If he can't, he'll just  be gone.
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Posted: 12/29/2011 8:57 PM
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The Hyde Park Grille is about to increase profits by 10 percent with Terry in town.
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Posted: 12/30/2011 12:42 AM
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Again, has anyone yet seen what salary Akron is going to pay Bowden?  From what I heard prior to his hiring, Akron had a lot of cash to burn.  I think I described the situation as "more money than brains."  Perhaps, I was being unkind because Bowden does appear to be a good hire.  How can some of you be so sure that Bowden won't decide to stay in Akron if he's successful rather than face all the pressure of a BCS job again?  After all, isn't Akron Alan Swank's hometown? 
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Posted: 12/30/2011 2:01 PM
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Looks like he is Hiring some of his dads old staff from FSU.  According to ESPN, he is set to name Chuck Amato DC.  Nice little staff there at Akron.  Should be interesting to watch.
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Posted: 12/30/2011 2:52 PM
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...he is set to name Chuck Amato DC...at Akron.  Should be interesting to watch.


LOL!  From 2006 after Akron beat Amato's NC State team at home.... 

NC State coach Amato swipes at Akron admissions
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Posted: 12/30/2011 4:01 PM
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I do think this is a hire that should excite a fanbase, BUT....if reports are to be believed, Bowden was Akron's 3rd or 4th choice. A "GREAT" hire should not be your 3rd or 4th choice.



In Akron's defense, Bowden was their 3rd or 4th choice because of Akron's utter incompetence, not because they planned it that way. In fact, it doesn't look like they planned anything.
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Posted: 12/30/2011 6:39 PM
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I do think this is a hire that should excite a fanbase, BUT....if reports are to be believed, Bowden was Akron's 3rd or 4th choice. A "GREAT" hire should not be your 3rd or 4th choice.



In Akron's defense, Bowden was their 3rd or 4th choice because of Akron's utter incompetence, not because they planned it that way. In fact, it doesn't look like they planned anything.



And that is Kron in a nutshell: any success is due to stupid luck, and certainly is not intentional or planned in any way, shape or form.
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Posted: 12/31/2011 2:22 AM
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I, for one, welcome Chuck Dynamite to the MAC.

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Posted: 1/1/2012 8:31 PM
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Bowden will reportedly make $375,000 as a base salary, according to cleveland.com.  No indication yet about incentives and additional income from other sources that might be included in the package. 
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Posted: 1/4/2012 3:26 PM
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Bowden is assembling an all-star coaching staff.....added Terrell Buckley former FSU and NFL DB
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:33 AM
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I can't think of a single reason why Akron is not going to get good in a hurry now.

We might not like the personalities of Bowden and Amato, but those dudes can coach.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:36 AM
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I can't think of a single reason why Akron is not going to get good in a hurry now.

We might not like the personalities of Bowden and Amato, but those dudes can coach.


He's a good DC, but I can't stop laughing when I hear Amato is at Akron. Remember when he went off on the poor academic standards of Zips football a few years ago after Zippy beat NC State? And then it was pointed out that Akron's graduation rate was higher. LOL.
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I can't think of a single reason why Akron is not going to get good in a hurry now.


Too many cooks in the kitchen. After he was fired from NC State, Amato went to Florida State to join Pa Bowden's all-star staff (linebackers coach, I think....), which already included gurus Mickey Andews and Jimbo Fisher. But there were 5 different coaches with "Head Coach" in their title. When everyone thinks they're a "Head Coach," who really is? The result was a 7-6 season in 2007 (all wins have since been vacated), 9-4 season in 2008, and 7-6 season in 2009. When Pa Bowden was ultimately forced out in 2009, Amato was not retained by Fisher.

If Bowden et al. get Kron to 7 wins within 3 years, I think the hire could be judged as successful. But 7 wins at Kron ain't exactly comparable to 7 wins at FSU...
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Posted: 1/5/2012 12:43 PM
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He's a good DC, but I can't stop laughing when I hear Amato is at Akron. Remember when he went off on the poor academic standards of Zips football a few years ago after Zippy beat NC State? And then it was pointed out that Akron's graduation rate was higher. LOL.

If you can't beat them, join them???
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