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Posted: 2/7/2012 12:48 PM
Same for Pitt and Penn State. All 3 will see 30% reduction in state funding under new PA budget. How does that compare with what we have experienced at Ohio?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/state/13885634...
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Posted: 2/7/2012 4:48 PM
And to add insult to injury, it looks like Memphis may get that coveted "imminent" Big East invitation that Temple had imminently wrapped up what seems like eons ago according to that sage of sources MH55.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 12:38 AM
Another thread where MH will brag about us discussing Temple...

I'd say that the Memphis add is devastating TU's bid to the Big East.  We'll just have to see.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 7:08 AM
According to today's papers,Memphis will officially announce that they are joining
the Big East in 2013  at a press conference this afternoon.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 10:58 AM
Actually just heard a rumor that Ohio might get an invite to the Big East... that would really crush Temple.. Can't believe it.....
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Posted: 2/8/2012 11:35 AM
I think it is safe to say that we will not get an invite to the Big East until we upgrade the men's restrooms from troughs to urinals.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 11:52 AM
That would be surprising, to be honest. If you look at this article from the Quad estimating the size of market shares, the smallest Big East team is Louisville with 300,000 fans, and most of the AQ conferences have about 1,000,000 fans or more, average. The teams the Big East has to replace, Pitt and Syracuse, had about 800,000 each. Looking at teams from the Big East, MAC and Sunbelt as well as eastern Independents as potential additions, you find the highest market sizes to be:
Notre Dame - 2,261,738
Troy - 381,102
S. Miss - 361,613
East Carolina - 348,391
Arkansas State - 312,058
Navy - 237,222
Memphis - 235,636
UAB - 236,825
Temple - 226,483
Marshall - 225,810
Buffalo - 213,393
Army - 198,182
Akron - 197,930

Ohio isn't even close, at 107,504. Looking at the above list, I coded as blue the independents that almost certainly wouldn't consider it. I coded as orange the teams that are probably too far south, to be regionally appropriate (but note that they were willing to add TCU at 370,000 and they added UCF at 500,000) for a conference called the "Big East". That leads me to conclude that Memphis was a reasonable choice, and that East Carolina is probably the most likely addition. Behind them, Temple, Buffalo, and Marshall could each make a case. Also, having reached as far south as Louisville, Memphis and UCF, they could pick up Southern Miss, Arkansas State or UAB.

I do think these numbers are not static, though. I am fairly certain that with Ohio establishing a steady tradition of winning, their fans are increasing, and if a new survey were done next year, it would show higher numbers. The same is probably true for Temple. Akron, with a new stadium, might have seen growth in the fan base, if they were winning, but they have been doing the opposite, so their numbers might be down.

In reality, adding any of these teams will dilute the Big East as none of them are close to the one million fan base level that most of the AQ conferences seek. The Big East is already the weakest AQ conference, with only West Virginia and Rutgers in that range.
Last Edited: 2/8/2012 12:19:59 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 12:59 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
I think it is safe to say that we will not get an invite to the Big East until we upgrade the men's restrooms from troughs to urinals.


Notre Dame has troughs, and the Big East would kill to have them.

As for the The Quad article, it has SERIOUS methodological issues, issues that I think were discussed on here several months ago.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 1:02 PM
Dont phret phellas, I assure you, when the dust se"][""]["les, the Owls will not be stuck in a conference playing you, Kent and Buffalo....

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/34753656
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Posted: 2/8/2012 1:16 PM
Yeah, MH.  You'll be playing Tulane, Rice, and Tulsa.  Rock on!
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Posted: 2/8/2012 2:37 PM
Let's see the French Quarter and Houston's Main St or the Court St Diner and chicken wings in Amherst NY...

Seriously ?
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Posted: 2/8/2012 2:49 PM
If I was Temple, I'd move to CUSA quickly.  And, if I was UMass, I'd be calling CUSA as well.

And, they should serously consider dumping the A-10 for hoops and going all-in with CUSA.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 3:39 PM
Hey, MH55er, is that source your linking of Temple's going to CUSA the same "crack" source that had Temple getting that ever-so-elusive "imminent" Big East invite. To say the BigEast has gone from sea to shining sea to give out those "imminent" invites would be an understatement.

Oh well, make sure the oil is changed in your Chevrolet if you are indeed going CUSA!
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Posted: 2/8/2012 3:40 PM
Physicist MH55 wrote:expand_more
Let's see the French Quarter and Houston's Main St or the Court St Diner and chicken wings in Amherst NY...

Seriously ?

Unless dining and attractions are directly correlated to athletic teams' prominence, then yes, I'm very serious.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 3:54 PM
As a MAC member for the last 3 years of bowl eligibility, I too feel the pain of desperately trying to get out of our own conference tie ins, if we are lucky enough to get by the Sun Belt or the MWC when we have more wins.

As for our basketball trade off, Im sick of reading our contract w the MAC provides nothing. If this conference had more than 1 auto bid, in say the last three presidencies, maybe you could fathom what Im talking about. Bottom line, Ohio would leave for CUSA the day the invite was extended.

  
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Posted: 2/8/2012 4:42 PM
Physicist MH55 wrote:expand_more
Let's see the French Quarter and Houston's Main St or the Court St Diner and chicken wings in Amherst NY...

Seriously ?


Well being from Buffalo and currently attending OU, I would definitely take the Court Street Diner at OU and chicken wings from Buffalo. In fact I was at Court Street Diner today and am really in the mood for some wings from Duffs back home.

And I highly doubt many Temple fans will be making any of the road trips if they do go to CUSA
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Posted: 2/8/2012 5:11 PM
buffalobobcatfan wrote:expand_more
And I highly doubt many Temple fans will be making any of the road trips if they do go to CUSA


I don't think any Temple fans travel to any MAC games anyway.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 5:29 PM
KyleWvr13 wrote:expand_more
And I highly doubt many Temple fans will be making any of the road trips if they do go to CUSA


I don't think any Temple fans travel to any MAC games anyway.


And not all that many actually make it to their home games
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Posted: 2/8/2012 5:30 PM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
Notre Dame has troughs, and the Big East would kill to have them.


Ok, fine. I think it's safe to say that we will not get a Big East invite until we either (a) upgrade the men's restrooms from troughs to urinals, or (b) win 13 national championships.
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Posted: 2/8/2012 6:00 PM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
And I highly doubt many Temple fans will be making any of the road trips if they do go to CUSA


I don't think any Temple fans travel to any MAC games anyway.


And not all that many actually make it to their home games


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Posted: 2/9/2012 3:09 AM
boa loser reminds me of the nemesis in the movie "The Help."  Have a nice meal, putz.
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Posted: 2/9/2012 9:53 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
Notre Dame has troughs, and the Big East would kill to have them.


Ok, fine. I think it's safe to say that we will not get a Big East invite until we either (a) upgrade the men's restrooms from troughs to urinals, or (b) win 13 national championships.


Haha, touche
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Posted: 2/9/2012 11:01 AM
Nebraska has troughs, and the Bigtendozen just took them, and they don't have 13 National titles.
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Posted: 2/9/2012 5:50 PM

Cant discuss when you fellas simply make up facts....NCAAAvg  Att Figures for 2011

Buffalo 18K
Ohio U 19K
"]["emple 28K

and the last time the Owls came in both your stadiums, you enjoyed your biggest crowd.

Now, who wants to hear about Neil's visit to a Pasadena Hospital to have Christmas lights removed from his rectum ?

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