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Posted: 8/1/2012 9:46 PM
Louisville, which started in 1912, is the only one close, and a poster claims LaPrise was born earlier than your date, so that may be who he is thinking of.  So, will Ohio be #34?  Other teams in the running for 30-34 include Louisiana Tech, Houston, Tennessee, Rutgers, Mississippi State, and BYU.  I'm calling it Louisana Tech 34, then Houston 33, and Ohio 32.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 10:46 PM
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Posted: 8/2/2012 6:34 AM
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In 2010 Myerberg had us at #60. In 2011 he had us at #52. Paul now considers us in the top third of college football. It might indicate he thinks this team is even better than last year. That is awesome.



Good thinking, Manny. What occurs to me reflecting back to 2010 is the joy I experienced that someone would regard us in the top 50 percent of teams; about how far we had come since nobody regarded us higher than about 85th or 90th (at best!).
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Posted: 8/2/2012 9:13 AM
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Louisville, which started in 1912, is the only one close, and a poster claims LaPrise was born earlier than your date, so that may be who he is thinking of.  So, will Ohio be #34?  Other teams in the running for 30-34 include Louisiana Tech, Houston, Tennessee, Rutgers, Mississippi State, and BYU.  I'm calling it Louisana Tech 34, then Houston 33, and Ohio 32.

Tenneseee is 34. It's getting pretty easy to find the answer to the clue as there aren't all that many possibilities. Tennesee scored 151 against their first 4 foes (38 a game), winning 3. They only scored  91 points (12 a game) against their last 8, winning only 2.

Can Ohio get a higher ranking here than they did from Phil Steele?
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Posted: 8/2/2012 11:17 AM
Two quick comments:

1.  Some of us remember the days of PapaL and OldFreakNasty when we were "Bottom Ten" material and we hit the preseason rankings at something like 105 out 107 Div-1A schools at the time.  We've come a long way, baby!

2.  All of Phil Street's College version have sold out at the Athens Walmart and Little Professor Bookstore.  Little Professor is ordering more and they should be in either this Friday or next.  I know this because I procrastinated too long and don't have mine yet.  Rich at Little Professor sent in the reorder when I was in his store a few days ago.  I think this is but another little piece of evidence that a lot of Bobcat fans are getting hyped for football!
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Posted: 8/3/2012 8:53 AM
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[QUOTE=L.C.]Tenneseee is 34. It's getting pretty easy to find the answer to the clue as there aren't all that many possibilities. Tennesee scored 151 against their first 4 foes (38 a game), winning 3. They only scored  91 points (12 a game) against their last 8, winning only 2.

Can Ohio get a higher ranking here than they did from Phil Steele?

Haha - that clue was too general, and apparently fit Florida, as well as Tennessee. Now a poster identifies Tennessee as next after Florida, so Ohio is looking at 32 or better.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 12:30 PM
Louisiana Tech at 32! Looking over the clue:


"Tomorrow’s program scored more points last season than it did over a four-year span that capped the career of the head coach with the most wins in school history."


So looking through our record books, Peden's last 4 teams scored a total of 511 points. Last years team scored 427. So we are 31 or better.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 2:16 PM
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Louisiana Tech at 32! Looking over the clue:


"Tomorrow’s program scored more points last season than it did over a four-year span that capped the career of the head coach with the most wins in school history."


So looking through our record books, Peden's last 4 teams scored a total of 511 points. Last years team scored 427. So we are 31 or better.


124 teams means, top 25% if in the top 31...That just amazes me that someone gives OHIO that type of ranking--not because the Bobcats aren't worthy  it's just not that long ago--well, you know the story.  That should translate to no Ball State (homecoming) or Buffalo blunders in 2012 and several more Marshall like beatdowns to round out a record that matches the hype.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 2:23 PM
I'm taking a wild stab that the answer is Houston, which scored 690 points last year. Their winningest coach was Bill Yeoman, whose last four years, 1983-1986 were 4-7, 7-5, 4-7, and 1-10. Given that they didn't win a lot of games, it is conceivable that they averaged 15 points a game or less. 

If it is Houston, that makes the most likely contenders for #31 Tennessee, Rutgers, Mississippi State, BYU, and Ohio.

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... That should translate to no Ball State (homecoming) or Buffalo blunders in 2012 and several more Marshall like beatdowns to round out a record that matches the hype.

...we're wearing the eyepatch. It's just a matter of not waking up in a ditch.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 2:29 PM

If it's Oklahoma State at 32:

So the top 31 are:

Alabama, Arkansas, Boise State, Brigham Young, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Kansas State, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Mississippi, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rutgers, South Carolina, Southern Cal, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas, Texas Christian, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Wisconsin

Who do you think might go before OHIO? 

 

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Posted: 8/3/2012 2:40 PM
MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more

If it's Oklahoma State at 32:

So the top 31 are:

Alabama, Arkansas, Boise State, Brigham Young, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Kansas State, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Mississippi, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rutgers, South Carolina, Southern Cal, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas, Texas Christian, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Wisconsin

Who do you think might go before OHIO? 

 



I think we are pretty close to our selection. Maybe Rutgers, Tennessee, BYU or Houston come before us. We are already ahead of some teams who received votes in the preseason coaches poll, plus Florida who is ranked #23.

Fun fact: Of the 31 teams left in Pre-snap Read's countdown, we are the only one who didn't receive any points in the Coaches poll.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 3:04 AM
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Who is No. 31? Over his nine seasons with the program, the finest coach in tomorrow’s school’s history led teams that allowed an average of 7.5 points per game.

#31 is Mississippi State, and the coach is Allyn McKeen. That makes Ohio Top 30.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:46 AM
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So the top 31 are:

Alabama, Arkansas, Boise State, Brigham Young, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Kansas State, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Mississippi, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rutgers, South Carolina, Southern Cal, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas, Texas Christian, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Wisconsin

 



True Confession:  You'll see Mississippi listed above, yet, Mississippi State should have been the one listed.  My copy n paste in haste has lead me to be just like the folks who use Ohio when they mean State.  I am sorry, and owe Ole Miss my contrition regarding this major slight.

Mississippi State #31

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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:33 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Who is No. 31? Over his nine seasons with the program, the finest coach in tomorrow’s school’s history led teams that allowed an average of 7.5 points per game.

#31 is Mississippi State, and the coach is Allyn McKeen. That makes Ohio Top 30.


L.C., You are correct! I figured Paul M. was just off on his math when I discovered the legendary Pop Warner coached at Stanford for nine seasons (during which the Cardinal yielded an average of just more than 6 points a game) ... oops!
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Posted: 8/4/2012 12:38 PM
cat4ever, no problem. It just goes to show how, even though some clue may be obscure, and unlikely, it may apply to some other team as well, or be really close. In this case it was especially tricky because, while McKeen was at Mississippi State for ten years elapsed time, during one of those he did not have a team due to the war, so he actually only coached nine years. I almost missed that when I first glanced at him.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 2:17 PM
MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more

So the top 31 are:

Alabama, Arkansas, Boise State, Brigham Young, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Kansas State, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Mississippi, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rutgers, South Carolina, Southern Cal, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas, Texas Christian, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Wisconsin

 



True Confession:  You'll see Mississippi listed above, yet, Mississippi State should have been the one listed.  My copy n paste in haste has lead me to be just like the folks who use Ohio when they mean State.  I am sorry, and owe Ole Miss my contrition regarding this major slight.

Mississippi State #31



Hey, you copied my post on presnapread and it was my error.  I corrected it there soon after posting.  I apologize to all Bulldogs and Rebels for inexcusably confusing the two.
 :)
 
Well, its funny that I should post here for the first time in a while and see my own post on another board.  
 
It is good so see some respect for this team in some places.  I think that we will be good.  Our schedule is weak (Favorable schedules are what teams you root for play and weak ones are what other teams play - no propaganda here from me though) and we are -6.5 against PSU and would be favored now to win the rest.  But I don't think that this team is likely to be in the same league as some of the Utah, TCU, and Boise State teams that we have seen.  To run the table you need to be dominant most weeks so that if you catch an opponent on their best game when you don't have yours you still win.  I don't think that right now we look entirely dominant over 5 or 6 teams on the schedule and odds are we drop one or two.  I hope not.  Lets see what happens.  It is a good time to be a Bobcat.
Last Edited: 8/4/2012 6:00:13 PM by Victory
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Posted: 8/4/2012 4:27 PM
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... To run the table you need to be dominant most weeks so that if you catch an opponent on their best game when you don't have yours you still win.  I don't think that right now we look entirely dominant over 5 or 6 teams on the schedule and odds are we drop one or two.  I hope not.  Lets see what happens.  It is a good time to be a Babcat.

With these high rankings, indeed Ohio has they eyepatch. They will get the best effort from everyone they play, and no one will take them lightly. I disagree about one thing, though.

I do think this team has the potential of being dominant. I am hopeful that in many games they can pull the first string midway through the third quarter. If so, that will be evidence that Ohio has finally taken the next step up. When your reserves can get a quarter and a half of PT in 4-5 games a year, that does four things for you, all good:
1. The starters take less snaps, and are less likely to be hurt. As you get tired, later in a game, the chance of injury goes up.
2. Those that are injured can be pulled earlier, giving them more time to heal, and less chance of re-injury
3. Reserves get a lot more plays in, and get them at a time that is not just "mop-up time". Then, when they are needed, they are not green. This allows teams to "reload, not rebuild".
4. It improves the morale among the reserves, knowing that they might get on the field.

I don't disagree with you that they may find a way to lose a game or two somewhere along the line. Almost all of their most challenging games are on the road, while all their easiest ones are at home. That's good in that they could play 100 players in some, if they get a big lead, but makes it a lot easier to drop one they should win.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 5:18 PM
We are among just five non-BCS-conference teams whose name hasn't been called:

Boise State
BYU
Houston
Notre Dame
Ohio
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:29 AM
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We are among just five non-BCS-conference teams whose name hasn't been called:

Boise State
BYU
Houston
Notre Dame
Ohio


Commenter says Houston is #30.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:32 AM
Realistically I don't see how much higher Ohio can go. I think all of will be thrilled if, when the dust settles at the end of the year, Ohio is still standing in the top 30.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:52 AM
There is one thing that's starting to bug me with the rankings so high and Ohio is not mentioned yet. The dumb asses might have forgotten about us and we are not going  to be ranked??
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Posted: 8/6/2012 10:01 AM
I am almost certain that he hasn't forgotten us. 

That would be a revolting development.  I'm doing a countdown.  I post #6 and realize that I only have USC, Oklahoma, LSU, and Alabama unranked....and, oh, there must be someone else left that I haven't done....Who is it?  No he hasn't forgotten anyone.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:13 AM
I kinda hope that does happen.  At that point I would love to see him attempt to keep the sham going and try to sell the nation on Ohio being #5.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:31 AM
LOL, I already asked him if he had forgotten us way back around 40. Paul must be losing his edge.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 12:29 PM
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LOL, I already asked him if he had forgotten us way back around 40. Paul must be losing his edge.


What if Paul came out at number 29 and its Ohio.  But his article is about the Buckeyes.  The O$U fans go off on him and he claims it's because he says he's color blind and when he was in Columbus getting the story ready he simply saw all these hats and shirts with Ohio on em!
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