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Posted: 10/15/2012 6:58 PM
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Posted: 10/15/2012 7:09 PM
Before someone chimes in with the, "Oh here's real other side of the story", I'll have to comment.

DelBobcat is accurate on most accounts. But his analysis is not complete; and not fair to post simply as a statement.

I'm a good guy, but I can certainly be a(n) (choice word) when things rub me the wrong way.

I chose to stand in front of those people. I made my quick plea (loud) plea, then faced the game. They were heckling me to sit down after I had stopped, "they couldn't see". But I can stand in whatever open seat I want in that section; regardless of who I obstruct. Some spots intrinsically have more value than than others for one reason or another (the seat at the 50  yard line, the seat next to the cute girl, the seat that will elicit the most impact, etc.) 

I'm fully aware of the concept of politeness. I'm also fully aware of the concept of personal responsibility. "You must be the change you want to see in the world." That phrase sounds all warm and fuzzy when you talk about rights, but it applies in all aspects of society; including improving the atmosphere at OHIO sporting events.

I was asked to sit repeatedly; by most involved. The people sitting were not several, they were sitting all the way up to the top from maybe the sixth row in my section. I was yelling in my responses to them. But that was necessary (as I'll explain).

I was asked to sit down immediately on the first attempt by security (not just to be quiet). I wasn't even swearing or verbally attacking any individual (which I've been known to do on occasion if the conditions are right). The crowd could have chosen just not to listen. After the security guard failed. The officer arrived. After he failed (For lack of a better word, because I personally feel he agreed with me. And before he let me go he asked me to stop harassing to the people behind me. I complied.). I returned to my seat and stood.

The (sitting) girls who you referenced were shocked by my return . Turns out they all ran track. I explained to them that I don't care (in the fanatical sense) about the players on the field, or the game itself (it really was a boring game to me). I wanted to sit. I explained to them that I stand because when I stand I make Ohio University look better. I told them that when I stand, more people stand. When more people stand, people watching on TV perceive Ohio University to be better. When people perceive us to be better, the benefits trickle down all the way to the track team. In short, standing makes Ohio University better, and when Ohio University is better, they are better.

They agreed, then all  7 or 8 of them stood next to me...until the last second of the game.

After those girls stood the 5 or so to my right stood, and then maybe another 6 behind me. In all I'd say I was responsible for 18 or so people standing after I returned from being asked to leave the game. There would be more too if it wasn't for the large void spaces created by students leaving at half.

I didn't make this thread to share an "inflated war story". I felt compelled to reply since it happened somewhere else during the game.

I did exactly what I know how to do. And that's accomplish what I set out to do.

P.S. Del,

I generally like your posts. But I LOVE how you act like I wasn't kicked out of the student section.The only reason I was allowed to return after being briefly interrogated and IDed under the bleachers was because I was so convincing to the officer. Certainly the alcohol alone on my breathe would have been sufficient reasoning to remove me from the game.

 

Last Edited: 10/15/2012 8:05:23 PM by The Situation
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Posted: 10/15/2012 7:32 PM
This would all be a non-issue if Knorr were still here...
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Posted: 10/15/2012 7:54 PM




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Posted: 10/15/2012 9:35 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
This would all be a non-issue if Knorr were still here...


Ohio fans fighting to be able to actually watch an Ohio football game.  We are well on our way.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 10:41 PM
OSP guy looks pretty badass.

Ohio State Patrol guys are my least favorite folks to run into ....ever since we were profiled heading out into Albany with a 6'10 Black man in the car headed through Albany on our way to the Sunday morning fishing hole and then a few months later cuffed and thrown in the back of a car and driven down to the patrol post at 2 am for refusing to take a breathilizer at 230 am on MOm's weekend when I had not even had a drink and was caught doing 28 in a 25 on State street I have tried to do my damndest to avoid them.  I don't have much love for them boys.

Ohio fans are turning out....good problems to have.
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Posted: 10/16/2012 12:39 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
Before someone chimes in with the, "Oh here's real other side of the story", I'll have to comment.

DelBobcat is accurate on most accounts. But his analysis is not complete; and not fair to post simply as a statement.

I'm a good guy, but I can certainly be a(n) (choice word) when things rub me the wrong way.

I chose to stand in front of those people. I made my quick plea (loud) plea, then faced the game. They were heckling me to sit down after I had stopped, "they couldn't see". But I can stand in whatever open seat I want in that section; regardless of who I obstruct. Some spots intrinsically have more value than than others for one reason or another (the seat at the 50  yard line, the seat next to the cute girl, the seat that will elicit the most impact, etc.) 

I'm fully aware of the concept of politeness. I'm also fully aware of the concept of personal responsibility. "You must be the change you want to see in the world." That phrase sounds all warm and fuzzy when you talk about rights, but it applies in all aspects of society; including improving the atmosphere at OHIO sporting events.

I was asked to sit repeatedly; by most involved. The people sitting were not several, they were sitting all the way up to the top from maybe the sixth row in my section. I was yelling in my responses to them. But that was necessary (as I'll explain).

I was asked to sit down immediately on the first attempt by security (not just to be quiet). I wasn't even swearing or verbally attacking any individual (which I've been known to do on occasion if the conditions are right). The crowd could have chosen just not to listen. After the security guard failed. The officer arrived. After he failed (For lack of a better word, because I personally feel he agreed with me. And before he let me go he asked me to stop harassing to the people behind me. I complied.). I returned to my seat and stood.

The (sitting) girls who you referenced were shocked by my return . Turns out they all ran track. I explained to them that I don't care (in the fanatical sense) about the players on the field, or the game itself (it really was a boring game to me). I wanted to sit. I explained to them that I stand because when I stand I make Ohio University look better. I told them that when I stand, more people stand. When more people stand, people watching on TV perceive Ohio University to be better. When people perceive us to be better, the benefits trickle down all the way to the track team. In short, standing makes Ohio University better, and when Ohio University is better, they are better.

They agreed, then all  7 or 8 of them stood next to me...until the last second of the game.

After those girls stood the 5 or so to my right stood, and then maybe another 6 behind me. In all I'd say I was responsible for 18 or so people standing after I returned from being asked to leave the game. There would be more too if it wasn't for the large void spaces created by students leaving at half.

I didn't make this thread to share an "inflated war story". I felt compelled to reply since it happened somewhere else during the game.

I did exactly what I know how to do. And that's accomplish what I set out to do.

P.S. Del,

I generally like your posts. But I LOVE how you act like I wasn't kicked out of the student section.The only reason I was allowed to return after being briefly interrogated and IDed under the bleachers was because I was so convincing to the officer. Certainly the alcohol alone on my breathe would have been sufficient reasoning to remove me from the game.

 



I witnessed "The Situation" as well.  HA!  Too funny...  Anyways, I understand your story and how frustrating it is that our own Ozone can't stand for a 7-0 team.  I was in the Ozone and I felt like our smaller crowds were louder than what we have today.  Something has to change.  But, the way you went about it just wasn't right.  I can't knock you for your cause.  But, choose your battles.  I felt like you were invading people's personal space and being obnoxious about it.  There are other ways to get people loud and excited.

 An old man in blue (that was confusing) walked around and yelled at the crowd.  If I heard him correctly, he said "You're the Ozone, not the NO Zone!"  He urged people to stand and get loud.  It worked.  That's when I lost interest in what you were doing.  He kept his distance, but he let everybody know his presence.  You were both very direct.  Maybe, him being older made people respect him more.  But, really I didn't see you get on anybody else for not standing.  You singled out one group of girls.  The old man made EVERYBODY feel lousy for not standing and getting into the game.  It sucks that we have to beg people to be excited about at Top 25 team, but again...choose your battles.


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Posted: 10/16/2012 3:25 AM
Almost getting thrown out?  Doesn't count.


Only counts if you are personally thrown out by one of the referees. 


While not something that anyone should aspire too, it was an awesome moment.
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Posted: 10/16/2012 11:41 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Almost getting thrown out?  Doesn't count.


Only counts if you are personally thrown out by one of the referees. 


While not something that anyone should aspire too, it was an awesome moment.

I am all for getting thrown out by referees.  

It is getting thrown out of the student section by rent-a-cop OSU/WVU walmart fans for standing at a football game that I am not all for.
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Posted: 10/17/2012 10:13 PM
I will gladly buy yOU a ticket on the Tower side and we will collectively aggrevate the older people surrounding me refusing to stand for any reason.  My treat!
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