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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:15 PM
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Absolutely pathetic!  If we play like this the rest of the season we will lose to both Ball and Kent.  Nice way to end the "dream season", possibly finishing by loosing 4 of the last 5 games!  This team needs to grow a set immediately.  Big game at home and we are no more up for this game than if we were watching an old ladies' guilting bee at the Senior Center.  Yea, we better do some serious soul searching and while we are at it, fire a couple coaches.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:16 PM
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Our heads weren't in this one tonight. From top to bottom. Maybe it's the short week vs. BG's week off. Maybe it's something more significant. I don't know. I still love my Cats, and I have enough perspective that I'm not going to bitch too much about finishing the season 8-4. But, damn, I thought this was the year....


And to perform this way on SENIOR night is sad. We absolutely have to find another punter IMO. I've never seen a more awkward routine on the part of a college level punter. I'm sure he's a good kid, but just isn't up to playing at this level IMO.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:16 PM
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The team has no identity. There is no sense of this being a team that likes to run the ball or throw the ball or stops the run or stops the pass. It tries to do everything well and it doesn't do anything well right now.

Find an identity and get good at something.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:18 PM
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Time for hoops.  This team has packed it in.  Very disappointing.  
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:18 PM
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I know our dark age days are behind us but this in some ways is worse.  When all the dust settles this will still be a great season but it has been so frustrating.  Had we not tanked the MACC last year I would not be so upset about this I think.

There definitely needs to be some changes on special teams.  That formation is awful.  BG had a swagger and fire in their bellies tonight that our team couldn't buy at College Book Store.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:19 PM
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I am sick to my stomach.  How was this team ranked 23rd in the country a few weeks ago?


Easy. One of the weakest schedules in college football at that point in time. The Penn St. put us on the map. Most everything thereafter up to the 7th win was tight except NMSU and Norfolk St.  We've now proven we really weren't worthy of such a lofty rating.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:20 PM
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I'm not sure which is worse, this entire game. Or our second half collapse against NIU in the MACC. Sick right now
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:21 PM
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Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
The team has no identity. There is no sense of this being a team that likes to run the ball or throw the ball or stops the run or stops the pass. It tries to do everything well and it doesn't do anything well right now.

Find an identity and get good at something.


That's on Albin.  He has a great opening drive and then changes strategy. Same in second half.  He tries to get cute on second down and we're suddenly facing third and long.  
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:21 PM
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Our heads weren't in this one tonight. From top to bottom. Maybe it's the short week vs. BG's week off. Maybe it's something more significant. I don't know. I still love my Cats, and I have enough perspective that I'm not going to bitch too much about finishing the season 8-4. But, damn, I thought this was the year....



Well, if your coaching staff can't do the professional thing and get your players ready to play, at home on SENIOR night, on NATIONAL TV, when you can still win the MAC championship, then something is wrong.

If you're not going to play with heart and intensity, and be focused in the middle of the week for some reason, then don't schedule national TV games...especially if it's 6 days later.     All the good exposure OU received dissolves quickly in one night on national TV when we can't even execute a punt.

The whole staff needs to be assessed, especially OC and special teams.

Also, why is Tettleton regressing these last few games?

What's frustrating is that we have two excellent backs, and both are healthy.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:22 PM
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Time to start Vick and work for the future because Tettleton has absolutely killed us in the past few weeks.


Too far.


Is it now? 

If you start to scramble and hang around in the backfield for as long as he has while waiting on a receiver to get open, nothing but bad things can happen.  He has taken over 10 sacks in the past 3 games doing this. He took us out of field goal range against Miami trying to do too much, and we didn't attempt the kick after the review. Tyler took the sack to end the game against Miami. He took us out of field goal range trying to do the same thing tonight.  Take the glasses off.  

Terrible night on special teams.  Don't know how else to put it.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:26 PM
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I guess the motto "unfinished business" will stick around for at least another year.  The good news is this may save some money on printing costs.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:26 PM
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It's too far because Tyler Tettleton has another season in Athens. The expectations on this team will be really lofty next year, too. Sitting Tyler Tettleton isn't going to help the program for 2013. And there's still a bowl game out there for Ohio this year. Winning back-to-back bowl games now is the goal. It's a step. Not as big of a step as we all hoped or expected, but a step. Tettleton EASILY gives this team the best chance to win. It's not particularly close right now.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:27 PM
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 We absolutely have to find another punter IMO. I've never seen a more awkward routine on the part of a college level punter. I'm sure he's a good kid, but just isn't up to playing at this level IMO.


You can't honestly think that the fault falls entirely on the punter.  I don't see how anyone can punt when there are five guys already in the backfield by the time the ball reaches his hands.  It's clearly the formation and the execution on the line.  They bring pressure, and we just bump and run down field.

I've never been this emotionally drained during a football season, I can say that much. 
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:31 PM
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Our heads weren't in this one tonight. From top to bottom. Maybe it's the short week vs. BG's week off. Maybe it's something more significant. I don't know. I still love my Cats, and I have enough perspective that I'm not going to bitch too much about finishing the season 8-4. But, damn, I thought this was the year....

Also, why is Tettleton regressing these last few games?


I don't think he's regressing. Rather, I think it's that we've played mediocre competition until we faced a slightly above mediocre Miami and a decent BGSU. It won't get any easier with Ball St. and Kent. IMO 9-3 would be great end to the season given we can't seem to step up to the decent teams.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:32 PM
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Punt blocking was beyond horrible it was non existent. 5 guys running the punter down once and 4 the other time with nobody even trying to block. Anyone would have been intimidated with 4-5 guys running full speed at you.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:32 PM
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I think the punter takes about 20 percent of the blame. He's taking forever. A mental hitch almost. But with normal blocking, he'd be fine. Every punter and kicker I've interviewed compares their routine to a golf pre-swing routine. You can't just change your golf swing overnight.

He's not going to overnight be a guy who gets rid of it like Chris Gardocki (a punter whose hands were so fast he looked like he might deal Three Card Monte in a subway station in his free time).
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:34 PM
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Time to start Vick and work for the future because Tettleton has absolutely killed us in the past few weeks.


Too far.


Is it now? 

If you start to scramble and hang around in the backfield for as long as he has while waiting on a receiver to get open, nothing but bad things can happen.  He has taken over 10 sacks in the past 3 games doing this. He took us out of field goal range against Miami trying to do too much, and we didn't attempt the kick after the review. Tyler took the sack to end the game against Miami. He took us out of field goal range trying to do the same thing tonight.  Take the glasses off.  

Terrible night on special teams.  Don't know how else to put it.


On 4th and 19 he threw it 6 yards - another in a string of mental errors.    I'm not saying bench him, but as assessment as to what the problem is needs to occur this week. Is it the play-calling having a negative impact on him?  Is he still hurt?  Both? 
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:36 PM
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Everyone associated with the punt team deserves equal credit for this mess.  Even if they had executed well, we still would have lost though.  Bad performance by whole team and me as well for not being there.  
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 We absolutely have to find another punter IMO. I've never seen a more awkward routine on the part of a college level punter. I'm sure he's a good kid, but just isn't up to playing at this level IMO.


You can't honestly think that the fault falls entirely on the punter.  I don't see how anyone can punt when there are five guys already in the backfield by the time the ball reaches his hands. 


He seems to be unaware of what's going on out there. Takes way too much time to get the kick off. His routine is really odd/awkward. And his attempt to run for a first down showed he was 100% in PANIC mode. He had probably the MOST TIME to get that kick off of any punt all night. But he seemingly didn't even look at what was there ... an opportunity to get the punt off. The breakdown in blocking doesn't help but he's way too sloe in getting his foot on the ball IMO.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:37 PM
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Come on people. You should know by now that this is Frank Solich football.  Be just good enough to get your hopes up, but never good enough. If you are happy with 3 or 4 loss seasons, stick with him, because that what you will get. But if you want to win, you need a new coach.

Now, someone can remind me of how bad it used to be and how we should just be happy to not suck.  I won't pay attention, but you can do it anyway.
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The football gurus could answer this better: If Tettleton is not willing to stay in the pocket, can you run any timing routes at all? Seems to me if he's pushing everything outside, every play is essentially a broken play where the receivers have to come back to him. That means nothing vertical.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:38 PM
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Our heads weren't in this one tonight. From top to bottom. Maybe it's the short week vs. BG's week off. Maybe it's something more significant. I don't know. I still love my Cats, and I have enough perspective that I'm not going to bitch too much about finishing the season 8-4. But, damn, I thought this was the year....

Also, why is Tettleton regressing these last few games?


I don't think he's regressing. Rather, I think it's that we've played mediocre competition until we faced a slightly above mediocre Miami and a decent BGSU.


Combine with a WR corps that has been hit hard with injuries. Our #2 QB spent significant time at WR tonight, and it wasn't because we wanted to throw a wrinkle into the playbook....This time last year, Brazill, Dunlop, and Thompson were dynamite. They're not around anymore, though. 
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:40 PM
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Our punt team is a mess and has been on the verge of disaster all season.  However, has our punt return team even tried to block a punt or put pressure on the opposing punter all year?  If we don't practice putting pressure on the punt team because we don't attempt to block or rush the punter, maybe our punt team has no idea how to handle the rush!  And by the way - OUr punt team WAS a disaster tonight.
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The football gurus could answer this better: If Tettleton is not willing to stay in the pocket, can you run any timing routes at all? Seems to me if he's pushing everything outside, every play is essentially a broken play where the receivers have to come back to him. That means nothing vertical.


I've got plenty that I could say about TT's play/decision making tonight, but in his defense, it seems like half of those roll-outs were by design (either off of play action or strict roll-out) and the other half featured a BG lineman comfortably dominating the pocket
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Posted: 11/7/2012 11:43 PM
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The football gurus could answer this better: If Tettleton is not willing to stay in the pocket, can you run any timing routes at all? Seems to me if he's pushing everything outside, every play is essentially a broken play where the receivers have to come back to him. That means nothing vertical.


I've got plenty that I could say about TT's play/decision making tonight, but in his defense, it seems like half of those roll-outs were by design (either off of play action or strict roll-out) and the other half featured a BG lineman comfortably dominating the pocket


Fair enough. I'm not trained enough to know when I'm seeing a rolling pocket or a quarterback with jittery feet. If they're called rollouts because of fears that BG was going to monsoon TT, then my question has little merit.

Man, defensive pressure from a front four can make an offense look terrible.
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