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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:17 PM
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Ron Turner to FIU.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 9:41 AM
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Syracuse's Marrone to the Bills. 
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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:28 PM
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Former Michigan DC and current Syracuse staffer Scott Shafer to Syracuse.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:59 PM
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And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon.  Figures.....
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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:12 PM
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And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon.  Figures.....


I think that he made a very wise decision. If he goes NFL, he's got to keep the team's owner happy, and 2 of the 3 teams said to be considering him (Cleveland, Buffalo) are BAD*, both recently and historically (with appologies to Jim Kelly's Bills). He's already got Oregon's owner (Phil Knight) very happy with him.

*Yes, I realize that at some point in history the Browns might have been good, but its before my living memory.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 1:33 AM
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Browns are widely acknowledged to have talent.

That a team has been bad historically is not really a good argument for its future performance necessarily being bad--especially if the 'bad' was long ago and/or new management is in place.


For instance, OHIO had a history of bad.  Grobe and Solich did not let that stop them from changing it.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 9:56 AM
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Browns are widely acknowledged to have talent.

That a team has been bad historically is not really a good argument for its future performance necessarily being bad--especially if the 'bad' was long ago and/or new management is in place.


They can be widely acknowledged to have talent or not, but that talent has not translated to on the field wins, regardless of the coach. Plus, they are based in the bad part of Ohio (i.e. Cleveland).

A teams historical performance is relevant if it is in part a reflection of owner/GM issues, non-shared revenue, or there being some hidden aspect that makes free agents less likely to agree to play there, salary aside. For instance, players preferring to play their home games in warmer climes.

None of this should distract from the fact that teams like the Browns and Indians are sinister and unwholesome, in contrast to noble and righteous teams (i.e. The Reds).
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Posted: 1/9/2013 10:11 AM
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The guy that takes over the Browns and wins will own that town.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 10:22 AM
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giacomo wrote:expand_more
The guy that takes over the Browns and wins will own that town.


Even LeBron?
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Posted: 1/9/2013 11:51 AM
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And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon.  Figures.....


Better than Pete Carroll, who left USC high and dry with NCAA violations that occurred under his watch.  At least Kelly might be there when the hammer comes down on Oregon.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:23 PM
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LeBron  did own Cleveland and could have been it's all time favorite son. He wasn't a big enough man to carry a town on his shoulders.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:54 PM
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mf279801 wrote:expand_more
Browns are widely acknowledged to have talent.

That a team has been bad historically is not really a good argument for its future performance necessarily being bad--especially if the 'bad' was long ago and/or new management is in place.


They can be widely acknowledged to have talent or not, but that talent has not translated to on the field wins, regardless of the coach. Plus, they are based in the bad part of Ohio (i.e. Cleveland).

A teams historical performance is relevant if it is in part a reflection of owner/GM issues, non-shared revenue, or there being some hidden aspect that makes free agents less likely to agree to play there, salary aside. For instance, players preferring to play their home games in warmer climes.

None of this should distract from the fact that teams like the Browns and Indians are sinister and unwholesome, in contrast to noble and righteous teams (i.e. The Reds).


A guy who lives in Buffalo calls Cleveland the "the bad part of Ohio."
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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:56 PM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Browns are widely acknowledged to have talent.

That a team has been bad historically is not really a good argument for its future performance necessarily being bad--especially if the 'bad' was long ago and/or new management is in place.


They can be widely acknowledged to have talent or not, but that talent has not translated to on the field wins, regardless of the coach. Plus, they are based in the bad part of Ohio (i.e. Cleveland).

A teams historical performance is relevant if it is in part a reflection of owner/GM issues, non-shared revenue, or there being some hidden aspect that makes free agents less likely to agree to play there, salary aside. For instance, players preferring to play their home games in warmer climes.

None of this should distract from the fact that teams like the Browns and Indians are sinister and unwholesome, in contrast to noble and righteous teams (i.e. The Reds).


A guy who lives in Buffalo calls Cleveland the "the bad part of Ohio."


Lives in buffalo now, born and raised in (one of) the good part(s) of Ohio (i.e. not cleveland/toledo)

EDIT: You see, "the good part of" or "the bad part of" are all relative terms. That Cleveland along with Toledo is the bad part of Ohio, and obviously so, doesn't mean that Cleveland isn't better than other, non-Ohio locations (Detroit, Buffalo several months out of the year)
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Posted: 1/9/2013 4:17 PM
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Hilly part of Ohio > Flat part of Ohio

Come at me, bro. We got Athens. 
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Posted: 1/10/2013 12:02 AM
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Hilly part of Ohio > Flat part of Ohio


+1  Take that all you flatlanders!   Hillbillies rule! 

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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:54 AM
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A very interesting list of hire dates. Frank is the 15th-longest tenured coach in FBS. This fact jumped out at me:  
The median hire date of a current FBS coach is Dec. 25, 2010 --- right between Ball State's Pete Lembo (Dec. 19) and Miami (Ohio)'s Dan Treadwell (Dec. 31).

http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2013/01/a-look-at-the-length-of-current-fbs-coaching-tenures-from-1-to-125.html
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:44 PM
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The Oregon job is now open. 
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:21 PM
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Pataskala wrote:expand_more
And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon.  Figures.....


Better than Pete Carroll, who left USC high and dry with NCAA violations that occurred under his watch.  At least Kelly might be there when the hammer comes down on Oregon.


Not anymore he won't.  And according to what I heard on the radio (disclaimer-sports talk radio can be about as accurate as Wikipedia sometimes), Chip Kelly was in a recruit's living room 2 days ago getting him to commit to Oregon for the next 4 years.  Talk about leaving a program high and dry. 
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:43 PM
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The Oregon job is now open. 


Every time this happens I catch my breath that Ohio's staff will not be raided in the ensuing shuffle.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:34 PM
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Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon. Figures.....


Better than Pete Carroll, who left USC high and dry with NCAA violations that occurred under his watch. At least Kelly might be there when the hammer comes down on Oregon.


Not anymore he won't. And according to what I heard on the radio (disclaimer-sports talk radio can be about as accurate as Wikipedia sometimes), Chip Kelly was in a recruit's living room 2 days ago getting him to commit to Oregon for the next 4 years. Talk about leaving a program high and dry.
I may be thinking of the wrong team , but I thought they have someone on the staff already set up to take over if Kelly left. If so this is not a surprise and continuity exists
Last Edited: 1/16/2013 5:35:27 PM by colobobcat66
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D1 football coaches are almost as bad as school superintendents.


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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:38 PM
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Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
And Chip Kelly spurns 3 more NFL teams and stays with Oregon.  Figures.....


Better than Pete Carroll, who left USC high and dry with NCAA violations that occurred under his watch.  At least Kelly might be there when the hammer comes down on Oregon.


Not anymore he won't.  And according to what I heard on the radio (disclaimer-sports talk radio can be about as accurate as Wikipedia sometimes), Chip Kelly was in a recruit's living room 2 days ago getting him to commit to Oregon for the next 4 years.  Talk about leaving a program high and dry. 


Oregon must be in deep sh*t. 

Whether Al Golden stays or goes will let us know how bad things are at MiamiF.  They might get their NCAA letter spelling out the violations within the next few days.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 4:59 PM
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Oregon OC Mark Helfrich promoted to head coaching position. 
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Posted: 1/22/2013 6:19 PM
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Oregon OC Mark Helfrich promoted to head coaching position. 


Who will be the OC now?  Greatwood/Frost/new guy?
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Posted: 1/22/2013 6:59 PM
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They named Frost yesterday.
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