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Posted: 12/11/2012 4:02 PM
or...Multi-Purpose Center?  Thought they were to break ground in November.

 
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Posted: 12/11/2012 4:20 PM
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or...Multi-Purpose Center?  Thought they were to break ground in November.

 


No, January. 
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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:47 PM
Just today the VP of student Affairs was tweeting asking students what they want in this project. Why do that now and even better question is why is even open to students? The University built Ping to keep athletes out and now it's like we are building a second Ping.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 10:52 PM
It's sad when players graduating joke about being promised an IPF.  Hope this doesn't trickle down to recruits.  Get it done!
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Posted: 12/11/2012 11:11 PM
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 
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Posted: 12/11/2012 11:45 PM
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First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Probably because it cost $26 million (almost $200 a year in new fees for those of us who were students then) and the "piece of crap" was eight years old when Ping was planned and 11 years old when it opened.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 11:50 PM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Don't tell me that on a cold day, you don't love the 5 seconds of warm air and magnificent smell of chlorine on the walk to Grover.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 11:55 PM
Buster wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Don't tell me that on a cold day, you don't love the 5 seconds of warm air and magnificent smell of chlorine on the walk to Grover.


It's actually quite nice, but I usually just cut through the damn building, from my long walk from the South Green. 
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Posted: 1/25/2013 4:09 PM
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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:22 PM
I thought construction was suppose to start now and to be finished in September. I also heard rumors of adding basketball courts and facilites for the basketball team to practice their instead of the Convo. 
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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:37 PM
You would think the athletic department would at least provide an update for those who donated money to the project. Also, based on those drawings, there will never be a second deck or other addition to the student side of Peden. I'm guessing if they ever upgrade and expand Peden, it will be a completion of the horseshoe. Would seem to be cheaper than a second deck anyway.




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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:52 PM
That may be true, but I don't think it would be impossible to fit a second deck with this design. It would be a tight fit, but would probably work.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:36 PM
Looks like we are finally replacing the turf in Peden too.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:28 PM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Alternate opinion: Like New Baker, Ping was a semi-disaster from the start.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:56 AM
JSF wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Alternate opinion: Like New Baker, Ping was a semi-disaster from the start.


Baker was a disaster? It has won multiple awards for design and has influenced students to come to the school. How on earth is it a semi-disaster? I almost want to smack you through my computer. 
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Posted: 1/26/2013 9:49 AM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Alternate opinion: Like New Baker, Ping was a semi-disaster from the start.


Baker was a disaster? It has won multiple awards for design and has influenced students to come to the school. How on earth is it a semi-disaster? I almost want to smack you through my computer. 


I love the new Baker too, Bobcat 828!  That place is a gem and is better than anything that was at Ohio when I was there (sorry fellow alumni-old Baker Center was ok-loved the bowling alley that also served beer-good times!! -but I thought old Baker was nothing over the top special when I was there).  Every time I'm at Ohio new Baker seems alive with students and various student activities.  I think it beats Ohio State's new student center, which seem rather sterile to me.

As far as adding a second deck to the student side of Peden, perhaps the grand plan for the future (many years out) is to replace Peden Stadium altogether with a brand new stadium.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 10:14 AM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Alternate opinion: Like New Baker, Ping was a semi-disaster from the start.


Baker was a disaster? It has won multiple awards for design and has influenced students to come to the school. How on earth is it a semi-disaster? I almost want to smack you through my computer. 


Baker has some good points and some bad points.  The location of Latitude 39 or whatever it's called was a huge mistake and one of the contributing factors to its failure (along with the original $39 prime steak on the menu, no bar and very poor marketing).  And don't be fooled by awards.  Any organization can award an award for anything that they want.  Often the purpose of the award is to provide advertising, name recognition and brand awareness for the sponsoring organization.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 10:36 AM
I hope the construction doesn't last as long as it has at some other schools. Denison started their remodeling over 2 years ago and it still seems like it will take quite a bit of time to finish. It also took wooster quite a long time too get theirs done. Maybe it is just because those schools are trying to keep up with Kenyon who has a better complex then most mid-major d1 schools. I hope that is the case or it will be sometime before it is completed.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 10:59 AM
Old Baker was totally inadequate back in my day.  Although being able to have beer and sit outside was a definite plus.  New Baker may have its flaws but I love it.  I particularly love the way it ties the West Green to the College Green.  In my era, I had the pleasure of walking Richmond Ave from Score floor in James Hall to classes (not to mention uptown on occasion) a couple of times a day.  In crappy weather, being able to go through a new Baker alone would have been worth the price of admission.  They may have to tweak it but all in all new Baker is heads and shoulders over what used to be available.

I have been on campus during weekends and also during the week.  The traffic that buzzes through Baker during the week is really fun to watch and be a part of.  Absent the terrace, Old Baker never was a focal point of any real description during the academic day.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:47 AM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Don't tell me that on a cold day, you don't love the 5 seconds of warm air and magnificent smell of chlorine on the walk to Grover.


It's actually quite nice, but I usually just cut through the damn building, from my long walk from the South Green. 


+10 - Granted I have not been in the water in probably 20 years, but it is an excellent facility and would find it hard to imagine that it is not still.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 2:59 PM
I, sir, worked in Old Baker washing dishes with my South Vietnamese refugee buddy Do Dat (Yep.).  It wasn't always inadequate or incovenient or any of that other stuff.  What it was was welcoming, flexible, easy to get to and easy to get in and out of.  Several things I can't say about the new Baker, though that's a hell of an architectural monument to something.  I guess the best thing about the new Baker is the indoor walkway it provides so you don't have to walk up and down the hill in the winter.  Exercise is overrated anyway.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 3:17 PM
The new Baker is far superior to the old Baker!  I saw more people in the new Baker the first time I visited than I saw "total" in four years of my time at Ohio University.  The old Baker was never an attraction of any kind as I remember it.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 5:08 PM
I totally believe the new Baker Center is better than the Ohio Union. What I would like to see built at Baker would've been a subway or some other fast food shop other than West 82 and the coffee shop. 
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Posted: 1/26/2013 6:28 PM
Since the new Baker opened, it has helped persuade at least 2 high schoolers to continue their educations at Ohio.  One is a nephew who earned an engineering degree and the other our next door neighbor, now a sophomore. 

At last autumn's homecoming we had with us houseguests from The Netherlands.  Baker impressed them mightily.

Old Baker?  Fond memories.  My first date with a certain girl had us sipping cokes in the Bunch of Grapes Room.  That was Lynne.  Years later our son Ben worked for two years in Old Baker's Front Room.  He also performed many times on its stage many times as a member of Our Smiling Jesus Band (alternative rock, not religous, music).
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Posted: 1/26/2013 7:48 PM
Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
First Question, why was Ping built without a pool in the damn building?  I know we have the Aquatic Center next to bird, but it's a piece of crap for only being 30 years old. 


Alternate opinion: Like New Baker, Ping was a semi-disaster from the start.


Baker was a disaster? It has won multiple awards for design and has influenced students to come to the school. How on earth is it a semi-disaster? I almost want to smack you through my computer. 


The first few years were still a lot more "trial and error" than they should have been in way too many aspects, just an overall lack of planning IMO. Of course, most of that is Dining related because Rich Neumann is incompetent, but I digress. Swank is right regarding architectural awards, what new building doesn't win one from some organization? Just a marketing thing.

The ongoing complaint (and it came up in my one year on Senate w/ Kent Smith) is that while it is a magnificent building, it is still VERY sterile looking on the inside for a student center. You'd have no freaking clue you were at OU if someone blindfolded you and placed you in the building (they addressed that some on the first floor across from the cafeteria thankfully).

Don't get me wrong, I and most everyone LOVES the building, but let's not act like it was perfect in all facets from the get go.


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