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Posted: 6/24/2013 4:12 PM
WOTS in INdy....NFL substance abuse vioaltion ....4 games.
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Posted: 6/24/2013 4:35 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
WOTS in INdy....NFL substance abuse vioaltion ....4 games.

Bummer
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Posted: 6/24/2013 5:08 PM
Dumb.  Indy will probably cut him.  They have a lot of depth at WR already. 
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Posted: 6/24/2013 5:41 PM
Damn, you can't make those kinds of mistakes when you aren't a solidified starter.
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Posted: 6/24/2013 6:02 PM
I doubt they cut him since there is no real incentive to do that at this time.  But he's going to lose a lot of cash either way . 

Wonder if the suspension is for actual steroids or the current trending substance Aderrall? 
Do they test for any of this stuff in college, because I only hear about NFL guys getting caught but never college guys.
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Posted: 6/24/2013 6:29 PM
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Posted: 6/24/2013 8:32 PM
If its recreational drugs then it was a dumb move, but if its performance enhancing drugs then...can you blame him? Big time stars do it, why wouldn't a marginal receiver buried on the depth chart do it to try to get an edge too?

In no way am I condoning the action, just saying I can see how someone in his spot could give into temptation.
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Posted: 6/24/2013 11:09 PM
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If its recreational drugs then it was a dumb move, but if its performance enhancing drugs then...can you blame him? Big time stars do it, why wouldn't a marginal receiver buried on the depth chart do it to try to get an edge too?

In no way am I condoning the action, just saying I can see how someone in his spot could give into temptation.
I am not condoning, but yet you don't blame him for doing it? Explain that one to your kids when they ask about drugs.
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Posted: 6/24/2013 11:15 PM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
I doubt they cut him since there is no real incentive to do that at this time. But he's going to lose a lot of cash either way .

Wonder if the suspension is for actual steroids or the current trending substance Aderrall?
Do they test for any of this stuff in college, because I only hear about NFL guys getting caught but never college guys.
It is up to each individual college to test for recreational drugs, and I believe Ohio suspended its random testing program a few years ago.
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Posted: 6/25/2013 7:30 AM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
I doubt they cut him since there is no real incentive to do that at this time.  But he's going to lose a lot of cash either way . 

Wonder if the suspension is for actual steroids or the current trending substance Aderrall? 
Do they test for any of this stuff in college, because I only hear about NFL guys getting caught but never college guys.


NFL players will always say adderral or cough medicine (Josh Gordon) because the league does not release what the actual substance was and they won't call guys out who are lying. So the players set it up as if they were doing something innocent.

And Adderall is banned in college unless you get a waiver signed by a doctor.
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Posted: 6/25/2013 8:46 AM
I hope it is not the case:

Colts | LaVon Brazill could get cut
Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:15:55 -0700

Indianapolis Colts WR LaVon Brazill's roster spot is in jeopardy after his four-game suspension.

Comment | Source: The Indianapolis Star - Phillip B. Wilson | Share: Share on Facebook



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2XEPekTKc
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Posted: 6/25/2013 6:47 PM
Surely its weed.
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Posted: 6/25/2013 7:47 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
Surely its weed.


But it was medicinal.
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Posted: 6/25/2013 9:30 PM

Kind of off topic but I heard today on the radio Aaron Hernandez failed drug tests (weed) six times while at Florida.

I've got to think one day if it's legalized in the U.S. the pro players will get the pass as well.

They definitely turn a blind eye to it at the pro and college levels for the right talent (including the MAC). In this case I'd assume LaVon made it way too difficult for the "good" eye to look away.

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Posted: 6/25/2013 11:07 PM
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Posted: 6/26/2013 7:06 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more

Kind of off topic but I heard today on the radio Aaron Hernandez failed drug tests (weed) six times while at Florida.

I've got to think one day if it's legalized in the U.S. the pro players will get the pass as well.

They definitely turn a blind eye to it at the pro and college levels for the right talent (including the MAC). In this case I'd assume LaVon made it way too difficult for the "good" eye to look away.



This raises an interesting issue:  Suppose the player smoked it only in a state where pot is legalized.  Should the NFL (or any other league) punish a player for engaging in a legal activity?  I can see banning PEDs because they're used for an on-field advantage and are physically harmful to players.  That's not the case with pot. 
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Posted: 6/26/2013 7:23 AM

There are no states in which marijuana is legal. Some states have eliminated state criminal penalties, but it remains a federal crime nationwide (even if the federal government has chosen not to prosecute in states that have decriminalized it). The NFLPA collective bargaining agreement probably also lists it as a controlled substance, so even if it weren't a crime, he'd still have the contractual obligation to abstain.

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Posted: 6/26/2013 9:40 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more

Kind of off topic but I heard today on the radio Aaron Hernandez failed drug tests (weed) six times while at Florida.

I've got to think one day if it's legalized in the U.S. the pro players will get the pass as well.

They definitely turn a blind eye to it at the pro and college levels for the right talent (including the MAC). In this case I'd assume LaVon made it way too difficult for the "good" eye to look away.



This raises an interesting issue:  Suppose the player smoked it only in a state where pot is legalized.  Should the NFL (or any other league) punish a player for engaging in a legal activity?  I can see banning PEDs because they're used for an on-field advantage and are physically harmful to players.  That's not the case with pot. 


Alcohol is a legal substance nation wide. It is not performance enhancing (in with the exception of some of the shooting sports). I don't think the NFL would be okay with players showing up for games with it detectable above a certain threshold in their systems, and if I recall correctly it was on the banned list (again, above a certain threshold that was below the level of legal intoxication) for my roommate who ran crosscountry at OHIO...not that it held him back much
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Posted: 6/26/2013 10:23 AM
This is one of those instances in which the relative lack of attention given recreational drug use by authorities is a double edged sword.  It's easy to imagine a young person coming from environments where they've never even known anyone who was "busted" thinking that it's nod, nod, wink, wink, "OK".  Imagine the shock when someone finally tells them it's not.

This is the reason that I favor decriminalization, so that the playing field is even for everyone in every jusrisdiction - and not because I want to see recreational drugs being enjoyed in local parks.
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Posted: 6/26/2013 8:17 PM
Even in instances deemed legal (medical usage), work place standards trump the prescriptions and has been upheld by courts of law.
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Posted: 6/26/2013 11:34 PM
Littering and...littering and...littering and...
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Posted: 6/27/2013 3:23 PM
60% of all football players college or pro smoke marijuana at some point. It has proven stress and medical benefits..not here to argue that yes it's illegal but when you ask these young men would you rather smoke a joint or pop some highly addictive legal pain meds you're going to get the SAME ANSWERS. It's past time unbelievable that alcohol which has killed millions on millions is not as scorned upon as this plant. 
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Posted: 6/28/2013 9:31 AM
Whether or not it's legal in the state or country is irrelevant. The NFL is a corporation. A billion dollar corporation at that. If it's against their rules to smoke pot, then you shouldn't do it or you will be punished accordingly. There is no jurisdiction in the NFL. I'm pretty sure the players get some type of "employee handbook" stating these things and other rules they have.
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Posted: 7/10/2013 8:40 PM
Bob Kravitz of the Indy Star says it was weed, and calls for LaVon to be cut.  Seems a bit harsh, especially since he recommends keeping a player who's facing a weapons charge, among other things, until the wheels of justice grind out.
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Posted: 7/10/2013 10:10 PM
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Bob Kravitz of the Indy Star says it was weed, and calls for LaVon to be cut.  Seems a bit harsh, especially since he recommends keeping a player who's facing a weapons charge, among other things, until the wheels of justice grind out.


The article suggests this is the 2nd drug test failure for Lavon. He probably should be cut. Instead of busting his ass to make it in the NFL he takes the approach of I can smoke weed and beat the system.  Not an intelligent decision on his part. Sorry Lavon but the law applies to everyone. Getting caught once I can accept. But a 2nd time suggests you're not thinking.

Guess it was his 2nd ...

The law says, in most states, that possession of marijuana is a crime. Thus, the NFL bans its use and regularly tests its players from April to August. If a players gets a positive test, there's what amounts to a warning. If you get another positive test, it's a four game suspension. If you get a third, it's an entire year.

Three strikes. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Knowing this, it makes Colts wide receiver LaVon Brazill's stupidity all the more unforgivable. Brazill was suspended recently for the first four games of the 2013 regular season for violating the league's substance abuse policy. In league circles, it's widely known that if a player gets a four-game penalty, he likely got it because of a second positive pot test.

Totally STUPID!!

Last Edited: 7/10/2013 10:16:06 PM by mid70sbobcat
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