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Casper71
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Posted: 9/2/2013 11:19 AM
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As a high school QB from the late 60s when we threw 6-10 passes a game, I know I am an expert (haha).  However, did anyone else note all the fluttering soft throws from TT.  Did he even throw one spiral?  I thought Vick had much better zip and rotatation on the ball.  Anybody else think TT has a problem (injury maybe?)?
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Posted: 9/2/2013 11:40 AM
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TT has never been a strong armed QB, not his game.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 11:40 AM
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I really didn't notice too many fluttering passes. It seemed to me they were mostly good spirals. There were a lot of passes off the mark, though, but maybe that's just because he wasn't feeling comfortable in the pocket. We'll know a lot more after Saturday night's game. It's hard to judge much of anything from one game, especially one where the opponent overmatched Ohio in so many areas.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 12:16 PM
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True.....but that didn't look like the TT from the Indy Bowl.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 1:31 PM
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It seemed to me that TT was asked not to use his legs in this one. Normally, he takes off, but in this game he seemed to go out of the way to avoid it. I thought Vick looked good so that's good for next year or if TT is injured (God forbid). Tyler is our guy, and if there was one good thing about yesterday, he didn't hurt us by throwing INT's. We will see a different TT and team next week, but it is not going to be an easy W by any stretch.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 1:36 PM
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I'm not convinced something is not wrong with TT. There were way too many poor throws and it seemed to me that he was not under a lot of pressure. He's lucky he didn't have 3-4 or more interceptions.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 2:05 PM
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I was wondering something entirely different. TT was limited to just a few plays in scrimmages in both the spring and fall camps. I'm wondering if he needed a live game to get back in synch. I think the team will just continue to improve this year.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 2:21 PM
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I would love to go back and look at the tape of the last 5 games and count how many times he has kept the ball on the read and ran around the end as opposed to hand it off up the middle for no gain. Around the Miami game he stopped running.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 2:25 PM
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bobcat28 wrote:expand_more
I would love to go back and look at the tape of the last 5 games and count how many times he has kept the ball on the read and ran around the end as opposed to hand it off up the middle for no gain. Around the Miami game he stopped running.
Well if he's giving the ball up on the read option, then I'd say one of two things are occurring. 1. It's not open, or 2. He's not doing what he's coached to do and the staff is allowing it. I do not think its #2
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Posted: 9/2/2013 3:58 PM
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I had to turn it off after they went up 28-0, did TT ever scramble or run a read option to the edge with BB? I couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving at all, it was either pocket pass or BB up the gut.
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Posted: 9/2/2013 5:28 PM
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If you watched the game on TV the announcers were talking about his throwing motion being bad and very soft with no spiral. They showed one replay from behind him and he dropped his head and shoulder and was ducking (of course he had good reason with 4 320 lb linemen ready to crush him).
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Posted: 9/2/2013 7:49 PM
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I had to turn it off after they went up 28-0, did TT ever scramble or run a read option to the edge with BB? I couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving at all, it was either pocket pass or BB up the gut.


We ran the read option once. It worked pretty well, I think we gained eight yards on the play. 
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Posted: 9/3/2013 1:34 AM
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Ran it once.

Seriously?!  That was our plan?!
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Posted: 9/3/2013 11:32 PM
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Seems like on some throws TT was shot-putting the ball ala Kareem Wilson. My guess is he is still injured from last year.
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Posted: 9/3/2013 11:36 PM
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perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
I had to turn it off after they went up 28-0, did TT ever scramble or run a read option to the edge with BB? I couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving at all, it was either pocket pass or BB up the gut.


TT did not have one single rushing attempt.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 12:13 AM
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I had to turn it off after they went up 28-0, did TT ever scramble or run a read option to the edge with BB? I couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving at all, it was either pocket pass or BB up the gut.


TT did not have one single rushing attempt.


THIS is what I could not understand. After the first series, we didn't play to win. I get keeping him healthy but why get full-out embarrassed? No regrets?
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Posted: 9/4/2013 12:15 AM
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fsohio09 wrote:expand_more
I had to turn it off after they went up 28-0, did TT ever scramble or run a read option to the edge with BB? I couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving at all, it was either pocket pass or BB up the gut.


TT did not have one single rushing attempt.


THIS is what I could not understand. After the first series, we didn't play to win. I get keeping him healthy but why get full-out embarrassed? No regrets?


It looked like the O never played to win.  Very irksome. Let the O rip.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 9:52 AM
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Good cat Good cat wrote:expand_more
Seems like on some throws TT was shot-putting the ball ala Kareem Wilson. My guess is he is still injured from last year.


Tyler has never had a text book over the top throwing motion but has always had the "slinging" style.  For his height this is not a good thing, and leads to less than desirable ball speed.


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Posted: 9/4/2013 10:07 AM
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Tim Tebow is looking for work. Maybe we should bring him in as a special QB consultant.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 10:10 AM
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C Money wrote:expand_more
Tim Tebow is looking for work. Maybe we should bring him in as a special QB consultant.


Yeah because Tim Tebow was known for his passing?????
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Posted: 9/4/2013 10:23 AM
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BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Tim Tebow is looking for work. Maybe we should bring him in as a special QB consultant.


Yeah because Tim Tebow was known for his passing?????


It's called "sarcasm."
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Posted: 9/4/2013 10:49 AM
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He may get his throwing motion from his dad. (who the announcers didn't mention until the 3rd quarter. Usually Micky the first thing the announcers talk about in regards to TT). 

TT's throwing motion has always been poor. Never been great at the deep ball and out routes weren't his best either. And there were numerous times on Sunday where he did seem to float the ball, threw of back foot, or looked uncomfortable at times. I'm hoping it was first game nervousness and not the competition. He needs to get his confidence back or else Vick will probably get some starts. I think we also gotta put some blame on the O coordinator.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 11:07 AM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
I was wondering something entirely different. TT was limited to just a few plays in scrimmages in both the spring and fall camps. I'm wondering if he needed a live game to get back in synch. I think the team will just continue to improve this year.

Solich's comments sound similar. Per Arkley's twitter, Solich said they "didn't practice 'tough' enough", and that due to the injury hangover from 2012, they had limited contact leading up to the game. Too much hitting in practice and people get hurt. Too little, they aren't really ready for game speed. Ohio just didn't look to me like they were ready for the game.  That won't be the case this week. They just had a full game of contact against Louisville, plus they are doing extra hitting in practice this week,  they should be ready to hit NT.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 4:25 PM
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Throws similar to Bernie Kosar but he was 6'5" and could get away with it.
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Posted: 9/4/2013 11:22 PM
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You definitely got the feeling that after UL went up 14-0 that they weren't going to put Tettleton in any situation where he was going to get hurt. I'm thinking of that three and out early where they ran three straight Blankenship runs over left guard and punted. Solich wanted out of there healthy more than anything else. Can't say I blame him.
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