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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:57 PM
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If our coaches are good (and certain poster tells us that they are not good...rather they are god...they are infallible), then they gotta have an idea when turnover is about to occur and they gotta, as a normal, ongoing part of their job, be keeping tabs on potential hires.  Shouldn't be as if 'oh, we have an opening, what will we do?'


Is your goal to maximize your posts and minimize your content?

First, our coaches are GOOD!

Second, we don't know when turnover might occur .. the FACT, yes a FACT, is that 3 have been lured away to a BETTER opportunity.

Post away .. soon you'll be at 5000 posts.



Why so much animosity.  My point is pretty much that any business leader needs to know the temperature of his staff, needs to have some idea of when it's likely that his key lieutenants are looking about.  That's hardly a controversial thought.

Also, would you, please state your real name and your affiliation, if any, with the University or the coaching staff or the team.  This place is beginning to feel creepy with those who have an agenda or interest but who are hiding behind anonymity.

I'm here for some lively, intelligent discussion.  You seem driven by character assassination.  State any specifics in your bill against me.  I'm amused.





 
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:50 AM
So if Mr. I is coming from Toledo what will his job description be and how many more will we hire?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 9:14 AM
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So if Mr. I is coming from Toledo what will his job description be and how many more will we hire?


I saw a report that he would interview with Ohio, nothing that a hire has been made.  Where have you seen him coming for more than an interview?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 10:21 AM
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we could say School of Mimes and my response would be the same


Those touchdown celebrations are amazing.


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Posted: 1/26/2014 11:23 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
If our coaches are good (and certain poster tells us that they are not good...rather they are god...they are infallible), then they gotta have an idea when turnover is about to occur and they gotta, as a normal, ongoing part of their job, be keeping tabs on potential hires. Shouldn't be as if 'oh, we have an opening, what will we do?'


Is your goal to maximize your posts and minimize your content?

First, our coaches are GOOD!

Second, we don't know when turnover might occur .. the FACT, yes a FACT, is that 3 have been lured away to a BETTER opportunity.

Post away .. soon you'll be at 5000 posts.




Why so much animosity. My point is pretty much that any business leader needs to know the temperature of his staff, needs to have some idea of when it's likely that his key lieutenants are looking about. That's hardly a controversial thought.

Also, would you, please state your real name and your affiliation, if any, with the University or the coaching staff or the team. This place is beginning to feel creepy with those who have an agenda or interest but who are hiding behind anonymity.

I'm here for some lively, intelligent discussion. You seem driven by character assassination. State any specifics in your bill against me. I'm amused.
Never been a secret that if Coach Mason landed a gig that Gdowski and Lightner would go with him. The three of them are good friends, and Grooms does a great job and has cast his line a few times into the BCS pond the past few years. It's about relationships and Benjamin's. Thanks to them for their service to OHIO University.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 11:36 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
So if Mr. I is coming from Toledo what will his job description be and how many more will we hire?


I saw a report that he would interview with Ohio, nothing that a hire has been made.  Where have you seen him coming for more than an interview?


Rowdy Rufus prediction on page 3 and I think he is correct.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 1:09 PM
Antonio Pierce wrote:expand_more
So if Mr. I is coming from Toledo what will his job description be and how many more will we hire?


I saw a report that he would interview with Ohio, nothing that a hire has been made. Where have you seen him coming for more than an interview?


Rowdy Rufus prediction on page 3 and I think he is correct.
You know how we accept WR recruits if they have coach Dixon's blessing, well, I have the same feeling for staff approved by coach Solich. Like L.C. I plan to keep an open mind.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 1:38 PM
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we could say School of Mimes and my response would be the same


Those touchdown celebrations are amazing.

Yes, but they have a hard time getting through the glass wall guarding the endzone, so they are infrequent.
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Posted: 1/27/2014 12:18 PM
In the "bad recruiting class" thread, Bob Haldeman posted:
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Twitter reports from Toledo media indicate we have offered a Co-OC job to Isphording.

I gather from that that he had a good working relationship with the other coaches, and that there weren't hard feelings when he left, and the reason that he left was primarily that he was in the wrong job last time around. I'll keep an open mind on this. He certain seems to have done a fine job with Tolodo's QBs.
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:18 PM
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In the "bad recruiting class" thread, Bob Haldeman posted:
Twitter reports from Toledo media indicate we have offered a Co-OC job to Isphording.

I gather from that that he had a good working relationship with the other coaches, and that there weren't hard feelings when he left, and the reason that he left was primarily that he was in the wrong job last time around. I'll keep an open mind on this. He certain seems to have done a fine job with Tolodo's QBs.

The reality of the situation is Solich is going to be here roughly 3-5 more years so any coach taking the job risking a coaching change. You just wouldn't say the same thing when Solich was brought on board 10 years ago. It was commonly expected he would make it in Athens 10 years given his reputation. I don't think its a big deal at this point if the replacement position coaches are coming in here with outstanding creds.

 
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Posted: 1/28/2014 2:14 PM
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This feels like the beginning of the end.


So if  we hire Isphording  and Johnson is it The Beginning of the End or The Beginning of a New Beginning.

I've heard nothing but good things about his coaching abilities.  Yes, The 2010 class was small.  However, I would not say a total loss.  There were many unfortunate things that happened after the signing day to many of the players and frankly there was not a lot of offers made that year if my memory serves me right.   

So, is that Isphordings fault or is that the fault of all the coaches who are on the recruiting trail.   

I think he would be great addition to our coaching staff.   I predict this will happen soon...


You see the class in a more positive light than a longtime member of our staff.  2010 turned out to be an awful class and we're feeling the effects.



I did not say this was a great class.  I really don't know how to judge a good class vs a bad class.  If its strictly numbers then this was a bad class.  There is no doubt we failed to keep some good players for various reasons.   What I said is I'm not sure you can blame the recruiting coordinator for the class.   In the end the recruiting coordinator is simply the guy that has to schedule the jr days, and remind the other coaches when they need to go on the road.  I doubt this position defines the strategies of who we are going to go after.  I would believe that this is the job for the new guy because it's not much more than additional clerical work.    

Look on the bright side.  Senior day activities will be short this year....   hahaha.   
Last Edited: 1/28/2014 2:16:48 PM by Rowdy Rufus
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Posted: 1/28/2014 2:19 PM
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 Isphording was the architect of the worst recruiting class under Solich (2010), described by one coach as "almost a total loss."  Then he bailed as quickly as possible to go to another school.  And we're considering taking him back?  



What do you mean by the architect??  Is it the Recruiting coordinators job to create the recruiting strategy and identify all the recruits we want to go after or is it a job that normally goes to the new guy who is in charge of all the Administrative stuff.   
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Posted: 1/28/2014 3:04 PM
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What do you mean by the architect??  Is it the Recruiting coordinators job to create the recruiting strategy and identify all the recruits we want to go after or is it a job that normally goes to the new guy who is in charge of all the Administrative stuff.   

I'm not sure, but I suspect it varies, depending on the person. I have always believed that a recruiting coordinator was that first, and a coach second, and that they are a critically important position, and have a great impact on the end quality of the recruiting class. I have never heard anyone claim it is a glorified clerk position.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 12:20 PM
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What do you mean by the architect??  Is it the Recruiting coordinators job to create the recruiting strategy and identify all the recruits we want to go after or is it a job that normally goes to the new guy who is in charge of all the Administrative stuff.   

I'm not sure, but I suspect it varies, depending on the person. I have always believed that a recruiting coordinator was that first, and a coach second, and that they are a critically important position, and have a great impact on the end quality of the recruiting class. I have never heard anyone claim it is a glorified clerk position.
I suspect your right for some of the larger schools.  However, it seems that the new guy has been our recruiting coordinator of late.   
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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:08 AM
Rowdy Rufus wrote:expand_more
What do you mean by the architect?? Is it the Recruiting coordinators job to create the recruiting strategy and identify all the recruits we want to go after or is it a job that normally goes to the new guy who is in charge of all the Administrative stuff.

I'm not sure, but I suspect it varies, depending on the person. I have always believed that a recruiting coordinator was that first, and a coach second, and that they are a critically important position, and have a great impact on the end quality of the recruiting class. I have never heard anyone claim it is a glorified clerk position.
I suspect your right for some of the larger schools. However, it seems that the new guy has been our recruiting coordinator of late.
All schools do it a little different. Some have coordinators who are off the field coaches, like an ops guy, others have them as regular position coaches.
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Posted: 1/31/2014 9:59 AM
Isphording is official. He tweeted a little while ago that it was great to be a Bobcat again.
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Posted: 1/31/2014 10:20 AM
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Isphording is official. He tweeted a little while ago that it was great to be a Bobcat again.

It's interesting that several other assistants have also left UT since the end of the season.  What's wrong at UT?  Perhaps they are all leaving because of the embarrassment of having Ohio selected over them for a bowl. 

 
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