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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:19 PM
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4.  You have still not answered my question as to why any student on campus can sell their autograph, except the student athletes?   


Our very discussion is answering this question. These athletes chose to participate in this system. The ban on selling autographs is a condition of that system. Once Johnny Football moves on to the NFL, he can make all the money he wants, but not while he's QB for A&M. The student in the English department can sell his/her autograph without restriction, but they're not getting the high-dollar exposure from the university that Johnny is.

Is that unfair? No, it's not.


"They chose to participate?" Huh? What is the alternative?

The problem is that Johnny Football's performance right now is what matters. People are willing to pay lots of money to see him play right now. People are willing to pay for his autograph right now. Why is his compensation dependent on future success? This may be the height of his career, and that's OK.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:28 PM
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4.  You have still not answered my question as to why any student on campus can sell their autograph, except the student athletes?   


Our very discussion is answering this question. These athletes chose to participate in this system. The ban on selling autographs is a condition of that system. Once Johnny Football moves on to the NFL, he can make all the money he wants, but not while he's QB for A&M. The student in the English department can sell his/her autograph without restriction, but they're not getting the high-dollar exposure from the university that Johnny is.

Is that unfair? No, it's not.


"They chose to participate?" Huh? What is the alternative?

The problem is that Johnny Football's performance right now is what matters. People are willing to pay lots of money to see him play right now. People are willing to pay for his autograph right now. Why is his compensation dependent on future success? This may be the height of his career, and that's OK.


Yes, he CHOSE to participate. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? No, he may not have a viable option for playing football other than NCAA participation. So, he has to accept the system as it currently stands. Just as I do in my job. Just as you do in yours. As others have pointed out, if he wants to quit, sit out some period of time, and join the NFL, go for it. If you have a problem with the time he has to "sit out," take it up with the NFL. That's their call. If they are colluding with the NCAA, I agree that sucks. But until you can prove it, there's nothing to be done about it. 

In the end, you're whining over Johnny Football's ability to make millions of dollars as a college student. I don't share that concern. As I posted before, he'll get his crack at making millions, if he's good enough. Right now, he's just biding time, growing his stock, and living large off the university. I'm sure it really sucks being Johnny Football. Poor guy.


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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:33 PM
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- They do not have a choice in the NFL and NBA.  You must be 2 years removed from High School to enter the draft(1 for hoops).  How is there a choice here?  Don't give me some garbage about playing in Europe or starting a new league here.  


They do have a choice. They don't have to participate. In most cases, we're not talking about world-class athletes. We're talking about "good" athletes, who will almost certainly not make a professional living out of playing sports. For the ones who are world-class, playing 3-4 years on a full ride will hardly hurt them before they go pro. And, if they're smart, they'll pick up a good education while they're on campus so they can make a living in case injury knocks them out of the game. 

- Fox, you say plenty of athletes are happy just receiving the scholarship.  I agree but those are typically athletes who in a fair market system wouldn't be worth the scholarship.  If you are from moderate means and you get a scholarship to go to school, you should be proud and happy.  What if you were worth that scholarship plus some?  Then you would feel like you are being ripped off.  I'm sure in your job if you felt like you were not being paid your value, you would think it would be justifiable to ask for a raise and receive that.  Why is this any different?
How do you make that evaluation, that you're worth that scholarship plus some? If they are truly worth more, then they should be a shoe-in to the NFL, NBA.  In my job, if I feel I'm worth more than I'm getting paid, sure, I'll ask for more. But I won't necessarily get it. They only way these athletes will get it, is if they prove it on the field. They've got 4-5 years to get that done. And they'll receive a scholarship, good coaching, sometimes world-class facilities, and an experience of a lifetime.

 


Rob, I'm pressed for time today but thanks much for inserting a goodly measure of common sense into this thread. 

I'm regularly amazed by the number of adults who don't grasp the meaning of choice and consequence.

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As I understand the NCAA rules, individual players ARE allowed to have agents under current rules...just as they are allowed to have lawyers.

The catch?

They have to pay the agent's hourly rate/retainer as they would for a lawyer, no freebies or promises of paying a percentage of future earnings.

EDIT: added italicized text for clarity


You can talk, you (or your parents, or other representative) can not sign or verbally agree to any relationship with an agent.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/compliance/compl-amateurism.html


Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't remember the exact wording that I'd seen before.


From the link: An individual loses amateur status and thus shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition in a particular sport if the individual....Enters into an agreement with an agent or other entity to negotiate a professional contract.

So I THINK that the bolded part still means that an athlete (or athletes) could pay for the services of "an [athletic] agent or other entity" (e.g. lawyer, union or trade organization professional) to negotiate on their behalf WITH the school/conference/NCAA over on and off the field rules, class requirements, etc. just so long as they aren't negotiating something resembling a professional contract with a sporting franchise. (I'm not saying that doing so would be a reasonable thing to do or not to do, just pointing it out)
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Posted: 1/29/2014 4:01 PM
One additional benefit that a player like Manziel gets out of college football that no one has mentioned is that it showcases and develops his ability, and helps to prepare him for the NFL. If he were to choose to sit out, he would find that come NFL draft time he would not be worth nearly as much. Thus he does get more "benefit" than just tuition paid.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 5:04 PM
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I am assuming you will reference donors paying huge amounts of money for autographs and sponsorships. If it makes you happy, we could come to agreed upon terms for what the athletes could charge for this. I don't like that because it is a restriction on trade, and keeps them from reaching their potential earnings.


That doesn't make me happy. But that would be the ONLY response, and would be completely ineffective, creating an even bigger split between the haves/have-nots. So instead, the rule is you can't make money until you're out on your own, playing in the NFL or similar. Sorry, but that causes me exactly zero heartburn.


Some heartburn issues for some athletes:
Restrictions on the freedom to migrate to other programs.
Restrictions on student employment opportunities for scholarship athletes.
You serve at the pleasure of your coach, meaning he/she can opt to not renew scholarship regardless of your performance. This has resulted in creeps like Urban Meyer recruiting and offering more scholarships than he has available, then not extending scholarships to exisiting players.
No one is better at the practice of over signing than Saban. In fact there is a national website dedicated to this practice. Les Miles is a close 2nd.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 5:14 PM
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No one is better at the practice of over signing than Saban. In fact there is a national website dedicated to this practice. Les Miles is a close 2nd.


You are correct.  Meyer has brought the practice to the Big Ten, and now the new guy at Penn State is following suit.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 5:45 PM
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In the end, you're whining over Johnny Football's ability to make millions of dollars as a college student. I don't share that concern.


Agree, I'm more concerned about the kid who is brought in to block for him, but is unable to read and is hidden from the academic police until his eligibility is used up.  Or the kid that suffers a back, knee or shoulder injury that requires life-long medical treatment, or the kid who falls down the depth chart and has his scholarship taken away by the coach who promised his parents to "take care of your fine boy." 

This is not about Johnny football.  He often uses the University as much as they use him.  Making him the face of the union discussion is misleading.  Maybe it should be Kevin Ware.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/kevin-wares-injury-draws-att...
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Posted: 1/29/2014 5:51 PM
Or perhaps the experience of our own Jason Whitehead:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/sports/16athletes.html?pagewanted=all

Jason Whitehead, a former football player at Ohio University, was so badly injured during a workout in 2001 that he had to be airlifted to a hospital. He was temporarily paralyzed.

“The next day, when I woke up, the doctor came in and informed me that surgery went well, but this was a career-ending injury,” he said. “You’re a 19-year-old kid. It took awhile to sink in.”

He said he took the bills not covered by his father’s insurance to the Ohio University trainers. His father’s insurance and Ohio University refused to pay the claims.

Whitehead lost his scholarship one academic year after being medically disqualified by a team physician, per university policy. University officials declined to comment on his situation, citing their commitment to student privacy. They also said they would not pay bills for procedures that occurred more than a year earlier.

But Whitehead, now a 28-year-old district manager for Frito Lay in the Cleveland area, said he discovered he owed roughly $1,800 in unpaid medical bills while reviewing paperwork to buy his first car about six years after his injury.

“The coach says: ‘You’re on full scholarship. If you ever get hurt, we’ll make sure to take care of you,’ ” he said. “There’s a lot of us out there that get used.”

It is not about benefiting Johnny Football, Archie G, or the Andrew Wiggins, it is about protecting the Jason Whiteheads and holding universities accountable for providing a true education:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/01/us/college-scores/index.html
 

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I think it is ridiculous to think these Universities don't help the star athlete after their career is over and it doesn't pan out on the professional level. Do you really think Archie Griffith has had a real job since his NFL career went bust? State has taken very good care of him. I would argue his autograph is worth the same in today's dollars as it would have been in 70's dollars if he sold it then.

I think if things don't work out for Johnny Football, A&M will take very good care of him. He will be able to sell as much A&M/Johnny Football merchandise as possible.

Is Tim Tebow's autograph worth less now than his hay day at Florida? Can these athletes still profit off their college success even after college? I think Tim Tebow is a prime example. He going to just fine in a field he did not study (broadcasting) solely on his college success.

Always changing the rules for the exceptions is a scary way to live. They are the "exceptions" for a reason. Less than 1% are as marketable as Johnny Football in college football. Why change everything for the exception?
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Surprised that nobody has mentioned healthcare yet. That is, in my mind, the biggest issue. It's even the reason that the NCAA invented the moniker of "Student-Athlete" to begin with. A union will fight for long-term disability rights for these players, which they unquestionably deserve given new CTE findings.

Further, I get that anti-unionism is super popular in America these days, but a lot of people here seem to be overlooking the fact that unions are essential to the success of every major professional sport in the country. Unions are what allows the NBA, NFL, and MLB to very obviously violate anti-trust laws by creating things like salary caps and drafting players rather than provide an open bidding system for their services. By caving to this union, and conceding things like long term disability coverage and some protections around scholarships, the NCAA has the ability to maintain something that will resemble what we all know college sports to look like. If they fight this, and refuse to give an inch, they're idiots, because frankly, the jig is up on the NCAA. Public perception has turned and it's only a matter of time before that's reflected in the court systems.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:09 PM
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4.  You have still not answered my question as to why any student on campus can sell their autograph, except the student athletes?   


Our very discussion is answering this question. These athletes chose to participate in this system. The ban on selling autographs is a condition of that system. Once Johnny Football moves on to the NFL, he can make all the money he wants, but not while he's QB for A&M. The student in the English department can sell his/her autograph without restriction, but they're not getting the high-dollar exposure from the university that Johnny is.

Is that unfair? No, it's not.


"They chose to participate?" Huh? What is the alternative?

The problem is that Johnny Football's performance right now is what matters. People are willing to pay lots of money to see him play right now. People are willing to pay for his autograph right now. Why is his compensation dependent on future success? This may be the height of his career, and that's OK.


Yes, he CHOSE to participate. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? No, he may not have a viable option for playing football other than NCAA participation. So, he has to accept the system as it currently stands. Just as I do in my job. Just as you do in yours. As others have pointed out, if he wants to quit, sit out some period of time, and join the NFL, go for it. If you have a problem with the time he has to "sit out," take it up with the NFL. That's their call. If they are colluding with the NCAA, I agree that sucks. But until you can prove it, there's nothing to be done about it. 

In the end, you're whining over Johnny Football's ability to make millions of dollars as a college student. I don't share that concern. As I posted before, he'll get his crack at making millions, if he's good enough. Right now, he's just biding time, growing his stock, and living large off the university. I'm sure it really sucks being Johnny Football. Poor guy.


Unless he gets hurt.
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Chapter 2 -- Medical Treatment

cc cat, thanks for the NY Times link. Very insightful and disturbing -- even though it is dated (I had not seen it before).

Now, unlike additional financial compensation for student-athletes, this is an issue I can get behind.

SInce it is up to each institution to provide whatever level of insurance deemed necessary, as a parent or recruit, that is one of my top questions before committing. How will I be covered if I get hurt playing at your school? And, can I have that in writing?

If the answer is not sufficient, move on to another school that gives you a sufficient answer (in writing). If the answer is not sufficient and that's your only scholarship option, then that's the decision-consequence battle you have to weigh.

If the new union's goal is to improve this aspect of student-athlete life, I'm for it. But something tells me when executives at UAW and legal folks are at your press conference, they are NOT doing it for the concern of health insurance for the players. And I think there will be better results if a school's athletes in all sports band together and approach the administration with specific requests (demands?) vs. a national union effort.

And shame on Ohio University for treating a player like that.
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- They do not have a choice in the NFL and NBA.  You must be 2 years removed from High School to enter the draft(1 for hoops).  How is there a choice here?  Don't give me some garbage about playing in Europe or starting a new league here.  


They do have a choice. They don't have to participate. In most cases, we're not talking about world-class athletes. We're talking about "good" athletes, who will almost certainly not make a professional living out of playing sports. For the ones who are world-class, playing 3-4 years on a full ride will hardly hurt them before they go pro. And, if they're smart, they'll pick up a good education while they're on campus so they can make a living in case injury knocks them out of the game. 

- Fox, you say plenty of athletes are happy just receiving the scholarship.  I agree but those are typically athletes who in a fair market system wouldn't be worth the scholarship.  If you are from moderate means and you get a scholarship to go to school, you should be proud and happy.  What if you were worth that scholarship plus some?  Then you would feel like you are being ripped off.  I'm sure in your job if you felt like you were not being paid your value, you would think it would be justifiable to ask for a raise and receive that.  Why is this any different?
How do you make that evaluation, that you're worth that scholarship plus some? If they are truly worth more, then they should be a shoe-in to the NFL, NBA.  In my job, if I feel I'm worth more than I'm getting paid, sure, I'll ask for more. But I won't necessarily get it. They only way these athletes will get it, is if they prove it on the field. They've got 4-5 years to get that done. And they'll receive a scholarship, good coaching, sometimes world-class facilities, and an experience of a lifetime.

 


Rob, I'm pressed for time today but thanks much for inserting a goodly measure of common sense into this thread. 

I'm regularly amazed by the number of adults who don't grasp the meaning of choice and consequence.

Mike

There is no choice here.  If you have the talent and want to be a pro football player you have to go to school.  What is the choice?  The argument he can choose not to play pro football is obnoxious.  Name one other job that is similar?

 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:46 PM
Will someone please answer this question.  I have asked it numerous times, and it has not been answered.

Why is it ok for a regular student on a academic scholarship to sell his autograph, but not ok for an athlete?  If you can justify why this is a logical and justifiable practice I will agree with you.

 
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- They do not have a choice in the NFL and NBA.  You must be 2 years removed from High School to enter the draft(1 for hoops).  How is there a choice here?  Don't give me some garbage about playing in Europe or starting a new league here.  


They do have a choice. They don't have to participate. In most cases, we're not talking about world-class athletes. We're talking about "good" athletes, who will almost certainly not make a professional living out of playing sports. For the ones who are world-class, playing 3-4 years on a full ride will hardly hurt them before they go pro. And, if they're smart, they'll pick up a good education while they're on campus so they can make a living in case injury knocks them out of the game. 

- Fox, you say plenty of athletes are happy just receiving the scholarship.  I agree but those are typically athletes who in a fair market system wouldn't be worth the scholarship.  If you are from moderate means and you get a scholarship to go to school, you should be proud and happy.  What if you were worth that scholarship plus some?  Then you would feel like you are being ripped off.  I'm sure in your job if you felt like you were not being paid your value, you would think it would be justifiable to ask for a raise and receive that.  Why is this any different?
How do you make that evaluation, that you're worth that scholarship plus some? If they are truly worth more, then they should be a shoe-in to the NFL, NBA.  In my job, if I feel I'm worth more than I'm getting paid, sure, I'll ask for more. But I won't necessarily get it. They only way these athletes will get it, is if they prove it on the field. They've got 4-5 years to get that done. And they'll receive a scholarship, good coaching, sometimes world-class facilities, and an experience of a lifetime.

 


Rob, I'm pressed for time today but thanks much for inserting a goodly measure of common sense into this thread. 

I'm regularly amazed by the number of adults who don't grasp the meaning of choice and consequence.

Mike

There is no choice here.  If you have the talent and want to be a pro football player you have to go to school.  What is the choice?  The argument he can choose not to play pro football is obnoxious.  Name one other job that is similar?

 


Many jobs. I could be extremely talented with financial figures, but if I don't go to college, I am not going to get hired by a major accounting firm.

We're talking about 2% of the entire NCAA student-athlete population that this affects, since only that percentage will actually go on to play in the NFL.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 7:02 PM
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Will someone please answer this question.  I have asked it numerous times, and it has not been answered.

Why is it ok for a regular student on a academic scholarship to sell his autograph, but not ok for an athlete?  If you can justify why this is a logical and justifiable practice I will agree with you.

With a non-athlete, he is not trying to maintain amateur sports status, so he is free to take money for anything he can get it for. Yes, selling an autograph would cost him his amateur status, just as it would for the athlete, but since he isn't play a sport, he doesn't care.
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- They do not have a choice in the NFL and NBA. You must be 2 years removed from High School to enter the draft(1 for hoops). How is there a choice here? Don't give me some garbage about playing in Europe or starting a new league here.


They do have a choice. They don't have to participate. In most cases, we're not talking about world-class athletes. We're talking about "good" athletes, who will almost certainly not make a professional living out of playing sports. For the ones who are world-class, playing 3-4 years on a full ride will hardly hurt them before they go pro. And, if they're smart, they'll pick up a good education while they're on campus so they can make a living in case injury knocks them out of the game.

- Fox, you say plenty of athletes are happy just receiving the scholarship. I agree but those are typically athletes who in a fair market system wouldn't be worth the scholarship. If you are from moderate means and you get a scholarship to go to school, you should be proud and happy. What if you were worth that scholarship plus some? Then you would feel like you are being ripped off. I'm sure in your job if you felt like you were not being paid your value, you would think it would be justifiable to ask for a raise and receive that. Why is this any different?

How do you make that evaluation, that you're worth that scholarship plus some? If they are truly worth more, then they should be a shoe-in to the NFL, NBA. In my job, if I feel I'm worth more than I'm getting paid, sure, I'll ask for more. But I won't necessarily get it. They only way these athletes will get it, is if they prove it on the field. They've got 4-5 years to get that done. And they'll receive a scholarship, good coaching, sometimes world-class facilities, and an experience of a lifetime.


Rob, I'm pressed for time today but thanks much for inserting a goodly measure of common sense into this thread.

I'm regularly amazed by the number of adults who don't grasp the meaning of choice and consequence.

Mike


There is no choice here. If you have the talent and want to be a pro football player you have to go to school. What is the choice? The argument he can choose not to play pro football is obnoxious. Name one other job that is similar?
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Will someone please answer this question.  I have asked it numerous times, and it has not been answered.

Why is it ok for a regular student on a academic scholarship to sell his autograph, but not ok for an athlete?  If you can justify why this is a logical and justifiable practice I will agree with you.

 


Go pay a full scholarship English major $100 for his autograph and I will answer your question.
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Will someone please answer this question.  I have asked it numerous times, and it has not been answered.

Why is it ok for a regular student on a academic scholarship to sell his autograph, but not ok for an athlete?  If you can justify why this is a logical and justifiable practice I will agree with you.

 


Go pay a full scholarship English major $100 for his autograph and I will answer your question.


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Chapter 2 -- Medical Treatment

cc cat, thanks for the NY Times link. Very insightful and disturbing -- even though it is dated (I had not seen it before).

Now, unlike additional financial compensation for student-athletes, this is an issue I can get behind.

SInce it is up to each institution to provide whatever level of insurance deemed necessary, as a parent or recruit, that is one of my top questions before committing. How will I be covered if I get hurt playing at your school? And, can I have that in writing?

If the answer is not sufficient, move on to another school that gives you a sufficient answer (in writing). If the answer is not sufficient and that's your only scholarship option, then that's the decision-consequence battle you have to weigh.

If the new union's goal is to improve this aspect of student-athlete life, I'm for it. But something tells me when executives at UAW and legal folks are at your press conference, they are NOT doing it for the concern of health insurance for the players. And I think there will be better results if a school's athletes in all sports band together and approach the administration with specific requests (demands?) vs. a national union effort.

And shame on Ohio University for treating a player like that.
Actually, the student-athlete/families own medical coverage is the primary insurer in case of injury. Something many coaches probably do not even know. The University is 2nd and in many cases there is not 100% coverage.
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Will someone please answer this question.  I have asked it numerous times, and it has not been answered.

Why is it ok for a regular student on a academic scholarship to sell his autograph, but not ok for an athlete?  If you can justify why this is a logical and justifiable practice I will agree with you.

That's because its not a societal issue worthy of notice.


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Chapter 2 -- Medical Treatment

cc cat, thanks for the NY Times link. Very insightful and disturbing -- even though it is dated (I had not seen it before).

Now, unlike additional financial compensation for student-athletes, this is an issue I can get behind.

SInce it is up to each institution to provide whatever level of insurance deemed necessary, as a parent or recruit, that is one of my top questions before committing. How will I be covered if I get hurt playing at your school? And, can I have that in writing?

If the answer is not sufficient, move on to another school that gives you a sufficient answer (in writing). If the answer is not sufficient and that's your only scholarship option, then that's the decision-consequence battle you have to weigh.

If the new union's goal is to improve this aspect of student-athlete life, I'm for it. But something tells me when executives at UAW and legal folks are at your press conference, they are NOT doing it for the concern of health insurance for the players. And I think there will be better results if a school's athletes in all sports band together and approach the administration with specific requests (demands?) vs. a national union effort.

And shame on Ohio University for treating a player like that.


Actually, the student-athlete/families own medical coverage is the primary insurer in case of injury. Something many coaches probably do not even know. The University is 2nd and in many cases there is not 100% coverage.


That is not the way it should be.  University should be first, foremost and complete.  No excuse. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 10:07 PM
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Chapter 2 -- Medical Treatment

cc cat, thanks for the NY Times link. Very insightful and disturbing -- even though it is dated (I had not seen it before).

Now, unlike additional financial compensation for student-athletes, this is an issue I can get behind.

SInce it is up to each institution to provide whatever level of insurance deemed necessary, as a parent or recruit, that is one of my top questions before committing. How will I be covered if I get hurt playing at your school? And, can I have that in writing?

If the answer is not sufficient, move on to another school that gives you a sufficient answer (in writing). If the answer is not sufficient and that's your only scholarship option, then that's the decision-consequence battle you have to weigh.

If the new union's goal is to improve this aspect of student-athlete life, I'm for it. But something tells me when executives at UAW and legal folks are at your press conference, they are NOT doing it for the concern of health insurance for the players. And I think there will be better results if a school's athletes in all sports band together and approach the administration with specific requests (demands?) vs. a national union effort.

And shame on Ohio University for treating a player like that.


Actually, the student-athlete/families own medical coverage is the primary insurer in case of injury. Something many coaches probably do not even know. The University is 2nd and in many cases there is not 100% coverage.


That was not the case for me. I suffered a concussion and the treatment was covered by the university. Even my CAT scan at O'Bleedness.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 10:29 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
SInce it is up to each institution to provide whatever level of insurance deemed necessary, as a parent or recruit, that is one of my top questions before committing. How will I be covered if I get hurt playing at your school? And, can I have that in writing?

If the answer is not sufficient, move on to another school that gives you a sufficient answer (in writing). If the answer is not sufficient and that's your only scholarship option, then that's the decision-consequence battle you have to weigh.


Bingo!
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