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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:08 AM
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FYI

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ohio-m-foo...

Edmond little bit slimmer 235 still a big RB
Morgan, M bigger 259
Porter slimmer 289
Smith, K. slimmer 244
Wood slimmer 306
Brown, B. bigger 230
Everhart bigger 318
Shilke bigger 316
Haser back to being listed w DL????
Price, Mike Curtis & Welter not listed
TEs are a group of big guys
Only 3 RBs & 9 safeties something might give??
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Posted: 3/7/2014 12:37 PM
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Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen
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Posted: 3/7/2014 12:58 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


No Mark Smith, either. We are down to seven returning scholarship linemen and bringing in six freshmen.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 1:04 PM
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Atwell, Bennett, Curtis, Grady, Price, Smith, Tanner and Welter missing. Lots of attrition.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 1:39 PM
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Atwell, Bennett, Curtis, Grady, Price, Smith, Tanner and Welter missing. Lots of attrition.
Ouch.

I knew about Tanner and we are deep at TE and 2 DE's gone also won't hurt as we are even deeper there.

The concern is 2 OLB's and 2 OL's who could have received considerable pt. Look for safeties like Toran Davis to get some looks at lb.

OL is a bigger concern. Look for true freshmen to get some looks. Depth chart could be:

RT-Watson-Levitt-Lowery

RG-Bristol-Gibbons-McCray

C-Powell-Everhart-Pruehs

LG-Lucas-Schilke-Lagenkamp

LT-McQueen-Murdock-Dudziak
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Venham & Windham still on the roster. I thought that might be the case for Windham, but didn't expect Venham.

The lack of bodies at RB is concerning....we've got the 3 freshman coming in, but as weak as the running game was last year (at least compared to years past) it would be nice to spend some extra time working on that this spring. With only 3 RBs on the spring roster, do you go full contact with them and risk injury?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 1:54 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Atwell, Bennett, Curtis, Grady, Price, Smith, Tanner and Welter missing. Lots of attrition.
Ouch.

I knew about Tanner and we are deep at TE and 2 DE's gone also won't hurt as we are even deeper there.

The concern is 2 OLB's and 2 OL's who could have received considerable pt. Look for safeties like Toran Davis to get some looks at lb.

OL is a bigger concern. Look for true freshmen to get some looks. Depth chart could be:

RT-Watson-Levitt-Lowery

RG-Bristol-Gibbons-McCray

C-Powell-Everhart-Pruehs

LG-Lucas-Schilke-Lagenkamp

LT-McQueen-Murdock-Dudziak

This has the makings of a train wreck, hold on to your hats, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 1:58 PM
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Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
Atwell, Bennett, Curtis, Grady, Price, Smith, Tanner and Welter missing. Lots of attrition.

Tanner was expected, and Bennett was rumored, so no surprise there. Smith has been battling injury, and hasn't played but a handful of snaps the last couple years. I think Smith, Atwell, and Grady would all have been 5th year Seniors, so perhaps they are on track to graduate this year. 

Atwell and Grady were 1 and 2 at SLB, so that will shake things up, but most of the others haven't been playing. We knew there were some that would be gone because otherwise there would have been well over 85 known Scholarship players.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:27 PM
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What about the WR Cameron Wilson? Didnt see him on there
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:47 PM
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Down to a 10-person Senior class by my count. 
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:03 PM
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Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
Down to a 10-person Senior class by my count.
18 RS Jrs, 5 Jrs
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:14 PM
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Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen
The bowl roster listed Haser at OL, the spring roster has him at DL. I wonder about this. I think he has a better chance of playing on the OL.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:33 PM
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What about the WR Cameron Wilson? Didnt see him on there

Other names expected but not found on the roster::
Cameron Wilson - WR
Skylar Schwarzel - WR
Spencer Schnell - WR
Neico Teipel - SLB
Brian Palermo - RB

So...Atwell, Grady, and Teipel are all gone. They were #1, #2, and #3 at SLB last year. I guess we'll see more nickle?

As for Haser, it may be an error to move him back to DL. That would surprise me, but it's always possible.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:38 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
RT-Watson-Levitt-Lowery
RG-Bristol-Gibbons-McCray
C-Powell-Everhart-Pruehs
LG-Lucas-Schilke-Lagenkamp
LT-McQueen-Murdock-Dudziak

Not counting true freshmen, my guess is:
RT-Watson
RG-Wood (formerly Bristol)-Gibbons
C-Powell-Williams
LG-Lucas-Everhart
LT-McQueen-Murdock-(Haser?)

Plus, you have walkons Schlike, Alcorn, and Adams for a total of 13 offensive linemen in Spring Camp  (or 12 if Haser is back to DL).
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
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Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 6:59 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Maybe Solich said no
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Posted: 3/7/2014 7:11 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Maybe Solich said no
So Frank tells Lightner that he is the OL expert and makes these 3 star recruits sit for 3 years........uhhhhh.....not sure it happened that way.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 7:13 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Maybe Solich said no
So Frank tells Lightner that he is the OL expert and makes these 3 star recruits sit for 3 years........uhhhhh.....not sure it happened that way.

Of course it didn't , I was joking
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Posted: 3/7/2014 7:16 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Man, we are really short in offensive linemen. We better hope that we don't have any injuries or last year will seem like a good dream compared to the nightmare that will happen


We seem to be cursed when it comes to lineman.
I wonder if losing their offensive line coach made some difference to some of the guys. You would think it might.
Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Maybe Solich said no
So Frank tells Lightner that he is the OL expert and makes these 3 star recruits sit for 3 years........uhhhhh.....not sure it happened that way.

Of course it didn't , I was joking


Sorry ......didn't have my sarcasm glasses on.....this much attrition knocked them the F off.
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I have long thought that Ohio's best lines in the Solich era have been when a high quality Tight End is on the roster. That to me is the biggest factor.  The attrition in my mind doesn't change the calculus for the season. Across the roster and in the recruiting class we have above average MAC talent. I know some on here would disagree with me but but we beat Akron, Eastern, Miami and UMass on talent alone. Looking at the schedule next year we replace Eastern with Western who was 0-12 last season. WMU is far from a MAC contender team. Kent and Buffalo were propped up by a couple of players that have greaduated. Northern Illinois and BG are both in Peden Stadium. Relative to the MAC schools that beat us last year we've lost less ground. Its projected to be a down year for the MAC in 2014 so no reason why we can't sneak out a MAC title if the coaches pull it together. At worst another bowl.

 
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Posted: 3/7/2014 8:48 PM
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Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Welter played 3 snaps last year, as did Curtis. Mark Smith played 14 snaps. All three of them graded well for the number of snaps they played. Combined they earned 39 of the possible 40 points for 20 plays, which is a conbined grade of 1.95. The starter with the highest grade for the year was Powell at 1.89, followed by Lechner at 1.87, then Lucas, Prior, and Johnson at 1.85. The other occasional player with a high grade was Haser, at 1.90 (which is why I hope he's still an OL).

Perhaps Curtis and Welter also had injury issues? We just don't know. I do know that Welter and Curtis still show up on the eDirectory, so they are still enrolled, even if no longer on the team.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 8:59 PM
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Yeah but Smith leavin was no doubt injury. If Curtis and Welter were so highly regarded by the former coach then how come they never saw the field?

Welter played 3 snaps last year, as did Curtis. Mark Smith played 14 snaps. All three of them graded well for the number of snaps they played. Combined they earned 39 of the possible 40 points for 20 plays, which is a conbined grade of 1.95. The starter with the highest grade for the year was Powell at 1.89, followed by Lechner at 1.87, then Lucas, Prior, and Johnson at 1.85. The other occasional player with a high grade was Haser, at 1.90 (which is why I hope he's still an OL).

Perhaps Curtis and Welter also had injury issues? We just don't know. I do know that Welter and Curtis still show up on the eDirectory, so they are still enrolled, even if no longer on the team.
What I know is that this staff never stands pat. They are always networking. I wager the fall roster will include more names than those on the spring roster plus the known recruits.
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I think this roster over time will prove to have errors.
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