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Posted: 3/26/2014 2:50 PM
Is it true?
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Posted: 3/26/2014 2:54 PM
I just saw that too! I wonder if they are jumping back to FCS or another conference? Pretty disappointing, I thought they were improving quite well in the MAC. Their record hasn't shown it yet, but I saw great things coming from them in the near future.

EDIT: I saw a few sources say that the MAC told UMass that they needed to join in all sports or none at all. UMass decided to leave conference, and according to one source this is not a move back to the FCS, they plan on staying in FBS.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 3:04 PM
I liked playing in Mass. It was a new destination and we made a vacation of it. I'll miss them because I think they have higher upside that most give them credit for. I think they has a coaching issue more than anything for a new FBS school. Anyway, adios amigos . I don't like the football only thing for sure.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 3:09 PM
My initial reaction is: Good.

But then again, this really hampers the MAC's ability to expand east.

But that only works to the conference's advantage if we shed dead weight, which we aren't willing to do.

So, good for the MAC in trying to better itself by getting UMass basketball, and we wish UMass football well in its future endeavors.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 3:17 PM
"Honey? UMass Football? I've got a confession. I've always found your sister Basketball really attractive..." (dead phone line)

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Posted: 3/26/2014 3:45 PM
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Posted: 3/26/2014 4:27 PM
I never liked the move to begin with. They had no intention of ever leaving the A-10 in basketball and their sites are set on a bigger conference for football.

The MAC needs to decide either to stand pat or recruit two, not one, legit partners to come into the league. And they have to make it feasible for everyone in the league. My top candidates would be:

Youngstown State - Natural rival with pretty much the entire conference. With Butler recently leaving the Horizon, I can't imagine there's much more allure to staying in that league.

Southern Illinois - Creates a rival with NIU and pushes the conference West, rather than East. Steals a basketball commodity from the MVC.

Eastern Kentucky - Pushes the conference South, but not too far South. They seem like a comparable program on many levels for MAC schools.

Marshall - Because it's freakin time. I'm tired of Conference USA and the Herd should be too. Come back to this conference and be the kings like you think you are. And then lose to the Bobcats accordingly.

Obviously some of the programs would have to raise their football status to FBS and increase stadium capacity. Others on that list could be Albany, Eastern Illinois, Illinois St, and others.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 4:38 PM
We all knew they were using the MAC as a stepping stone for AAC or some such conference, so it's not such a big surprise.  I can see them not wanting to leave the A10 for b-ball.  Only three A10 teams (Duquesne, Dayton, St Louis) are as far from UMass as the MAC teams are.

Per the ESPN article, it looks like the MAC is closing the door on expansion for the near term.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 4:50 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I never liked the move to begin with. They had no intention of ever leaving the A-10 in basketball and their sites are set on a bigger conference for football.

The MAC needs to decide either to stand pat or recruit two, not one, legit partners to come into the league. And they have to make it feasible for everyone in the league. My top candidates would be:

Youngstown State - Natural rival with pretty much the entire conference. With Butler recently leaving the Horizon, I can't imagine there's much more allure to staying in that league.

Southern Illinois - Creates a rival with NIU and pushes the conference West, rather than East. Steals a basketball commodity from the MVC.

Eastern Kentucky - Pushes the conference South, but not too far South. They seem like a comparable program on many levels for MAC schools.

Marshall - Because it's freakin time. I'm tired of Conference USA and the Herd should be too. Come back to this conference and be the kings like you think you are. And then lose to the Bobcats accordingly.

Obviously some of the programs would have to raise their football status to FBS and increase stadium capacity. Others on that list could be Albany, Eastern Illinois, Illinois St, and others.


There's been talk of JMU, although I think they're probably more interested in CUSA.

Army would be a good addition.  Natural rival for Buffalo and most other East teams.

Northern Iowa regularly beats Iowa & Iowa St.  A drawback might be their 16,000 seat domed stadium.  Don't know if they could expand it somehow (end zone seating?).
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Posted: 3/26/2014 4:54 PM
*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!
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Posted: 3/26/2014 4:58 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
I never liked the move to begin with. They had no intention of ever leaving the A-10 in basketball and their sites are set on a bigger conference for football.

The MAC needs to decide either to stand pat or recruit two, not one, legit partners to come into the league. And they have to make it feasible for everyone in the league. My top candidates would be:

Youngstown State - Natural rival with pretty much the entire conference. With Butler recently leaving the Horizon, I can't imagine there's much more allure to staying in that league.

Southern Illinois - Creates a rival with NIU and pushes the conference West, rather than East. Steals a basketball commodity from the MVC.

Eastern Kentucky - Pushes the conference South, but not too far South. They seem like a comparable program on many levels for MAC schools.

Marshall - Because it's freakin time. I'm tired of Conference USA and the Herd should be too. Come back to this conference and be the kings like you think you are. And then lose to the Bobcats accordingly.

Obviously some of the programs would have to raise their football status to FBS and increase stadium capacity. Others on that list could be Albany, Eastern Illinois, Illinois St, and others.


There's been talk of JMU, although I think they're probably more interested in CUSA.

Army would be a good addition.  Natural rival for Buffalo and most other East teams.

Northern Iowa regularly beats Iowa & Iowa St.  A drawback might be their 16,000 seat domed stadium.  Don't know if they could expand it somehow (end zone seating?).

This article actually suggests James Madison would join the MAC if asked.

I wonder if the MAC would have invited James Madison had UMass accepted a full-time membership agreement.
 
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Posted: 3/26/2014 5:13 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more

This article actually suggests James Madison would join the MAC if asked.

I wonder if the MAC would have invited James Madison had UMass accepted a full-time membership agreement.
 


Could be that JMU was willing to come in as a full member so the MAC needed a 14th for b-ball.  The MAC is a lot more attractive than the Colonial is these days.
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Posted: 3/27/2014 1:29 PM
C-USA should accept them, and if they could land a Washington or California school they would be renamed Transcontinental-USA.
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Posted: 3/27/2014 2:02 PM
I vote for Mount Union.
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Posted: 3/27/2014 3:08 PM

perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

 

If by stay at 12 you mean boot the community college and replace them with a legitimate higher education institution, then I agree completely.
 

12 real colleges is the perfect number.

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Posted: 3/28/2014 9:08 AM
I'd like to see some new blood in this conference, but it looks like that may be on the back burner for now.  We will see.  You can't take quotes from conference commissioners at face value.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:01 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

*stomp* stomp* *clap*
STAY AT TWELVE!

 

If by stay at 12 you mean boot the community college and replace them with a legitimate higher education institution, then I agree completely.
 

12 real colleges is the perfect number.



EMU's attendance numbers are really embarrassing.  Having EMU with the lowest attendance in D1A football (by about 5,000) and near the bottom in D1 b-ball is a problem that may not be solvable.  Living in the shadow of The Big House may be too much to overcome.  If they can't get attendance up to at least reasonable levels, the MAC should find a way to replace them.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:23 PM
The sad thing is that EMU has a very nice stadium that appears to seat perhaps 30-35,000. Why would they have built that? Has it ever been full?
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:39 PM
Too bad; I think UMASS was a team that could make noise.  But if the conference said all or nothing, I have no problem with them leaving without committing.  I'm not sure who to bring in now.  I would like to see us bring in someone in the Buffalo area, maybe a Pittsburgh school.  Some branching out to the East Coast, but still good for travel purposes to the Eastern Ohio schools and Buffalo.  I also want to see someone who would be in a place close to Northern Illinois/Ball State to improve travel numbers in the West.  If we would want to expand farther geographically, the JMU/Delaware idea is great, and it wouldn't hurt to go farther south in Kentucky or West Virginia.

As for EMU, I'm fairly sure that they used to draw well in the 90's if what the EMU posters on CSNBB'S said was accurate.  I think given their facilities, they could do well again.  But they have to start winning in football especially, and keep going what went on in Basketball and improve on it.  That and some great marketing strategies.  Maybe they can hire some of our guys to show them how it's done.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:44 PM
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The sad thing is that EMU has a very nice stadium that appears to seat perhaps 30-35,000. Why would they have built that? Has it ever been full?


Once.  When they showed a Mich game on a jumbotron.

Actually, this editorial says they sold out twice.  It also recommends that they bypass 1AA and drop down to D2.
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Posted: 4/1/2014 10:36 AM
UMASS joins the AAC for all sports -

http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-football-umass-2014/2014/4/1/5568546/umass-joins-aac-for-all-sports


Wait, what's today....


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Posted: 4/1/2014 12:16 PM
So they pretty much wanted to be where Temple is.
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Posted: 4/1/2014 12:55 PM
I'm not clear that this is an April Fool's joke, but it may be. Certainly the other article, claiming U.Conn was replacing Syracuse in the ACC is one. IF UMass moves to the AAC, it would not be surprising, and I'd say that it's a good move and a step up.  I'd call CUSA a step down from the MAC, but the AAC seems to be reforming as a decent conference.
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Posted: 4/1/2014 3:11 PM
A-townBound wrote:expand_more

Bingo, click the link to the second article.  It was a hoax that many UMASS fans jumped on hard as fact, not bothering to follow the link.

 
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