Here's the guy who shredded us today:

https://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recr...

But does he have the "heart" of our fabulous walk-ons?!

Does Marshall do anything illegal? No.

We give kids a chance that would never normally get one. We also do an excellent job getting those kids qualified. No need for sour grapes because of this loss. Best of luck going forward.

The whole "props" thing is quite comical. Kids either go the JUCO route or they can go somewhere like Marshall which basically has its own community college and we can keep our recruits closer to the program while they qualify. Many do not qualify, but at least they are given a shot. You do not have the luxury of turning down talent like this any more than we do, don't fool yourself.

You guys can pretend that you're Notre Dame and only recruit 4-star talent with 4.0 GPA's out of high school, but you would be lying.

You act like we are a team full of props. Cato, Shuler, Johnson, etc are not props.

I would LOVE for one of you amazingly educated Bobcats to explain how signing a few props a year is different than you signing several JUCO players a year.

I appreciate the irony of you touting your intelligence while using an ad hominem logical fallacy. We teach English at Marshall.

If I need any instruction from a university in Ohio, I will consult Ohio State. My MBA is from there, and I live in Columbus. Thank you for your offer, but I am comfortable without the aid of some intelligent person from O H I O . I have found those who feel the need to profess personal intelligence usually lack it.

Thank you sir for that horrible attempt at trying to justify the tail kicking you took today.

JUCOs have no incentive to get kids eligible? That might be the craziest thing I have ever read. They have every incentive in the world to get kids eligible.

There is no difference between JUCO and props. How in the world we convince anyone to prop is amazing to me. Why would you sign with Marshall when you can go to JUCO and keep your SEC offers?

It is far from the amazing advantage some try convince themselves that it is.

The perception is that Marshall believes in winning at any cost and has historically been willing to break the rules. That high winning percentage is tainted by years of cheating and that stirs up anger.

Marshall will take up to four non-qualifiers a year. These kids have the base GPA requirements to enter school, most just don't have a high enough GPA to participate in athletics. Every school has its own set of entrance requirements. Any kid has the right to enroll in school if they meet those minimum requirements its just that under NCAA rules, a prospective student athlete cant receive scholarship or participate in team activities and must improve their grades before they can participate. Some of them work out, some don't. Many of them that don't work out end up going the Juco route to try and improve their grades. There are many schools across the country outside of Marshall that take NQ's. Some of it depends on the conference you are in. When ECU was in CUSA, they took NQ's all the time. Now that they are in the American, that conference doesn't allow them. A lot of people simply don't understand the process or what it all amounts to so at times it gets a bad rep. Truth is, a lot of college athletes across the country has benefited from the rule and become good student athletes and citizens. Whether they go the student non-qualifer route or Juco doesn't really matter if he/she gets qualifying grades to participate.

If Ohio fans are certain we are doing something illegal, report us. Problem solved.

Non-Qualifiers are generally students from poor socioeconomic backgrounds. They face challenges and barriers to building quality educational foundations. If you are hungry, homeless, and lack parental interest, it is very hard to study and perform well There is actually little variation within the actual intelligence quotient. Additionally, some have learning disabilities, but lack the resources or concern for early intervention. We offer a HELP program to all students (not just athletes) to prepare them for a college education. It is a nationally recognized program.

Your perception is not a valid argument. Making the claim that "many" know how we win is another logical fallacy known as an appeal to popularity. Again, if you are aware of an actual violation, report it.

I'd like to return to the purpose of this thread which was easily refuted. BTW, here's the rivals page of the other receiver that shredded us yesterday: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-D...

Care to respond Bcat2?

The fact is, you CANNOT be competitive with teams like Marshall (this year) and Kentucky without some great athletes. In the past we got players like this by finding hidden gems (Brazill) or dumb luck (TJ Carrie).

The players that beat us yesterday weren't preferred walk-ons or folks that no one wanted. We ran up against real BCS talent and got WORKED.

Yes, we got routed yesterday. stupd cow was clearly better.

All most of us ask is that you cow admit that we've won 3 of 4 with our rout of you (44-7, right?) being worse than what you did to us.

Too many of you act as if you always have been, are, and always will be so very much better than us. Seems to me that on this forum a much, much smaller proportion of OHIO have acted that way toward you when we won.


So many cow act as if herd is proven anointed this year. Why don't we wait for the whole season to play out before we do that.



And for the record, when you went undefeated in MAC (whole year...at least up to bowl season) I was the one saying that you deserved to be ranked no less than #3 or #4 given how very difficult it is to go undefeated.

Since I didn't make these claims, another red herring. Additionally, your Abscence of evidence may be appropriate if I had made the accusation. As you may not be aware, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser, not the accused.

I would think the individual(s) committing libel based on illogical crackpot conspiracy theories related to losing a football game may need to examine priorities. Defamatory libel will not make everything right in Ohio University world. Using all caps generally makes you appear immature. Finally, reminiscing over the past is nostalgic, yet it doesn't help with the results of the present.