Our D always does play just well enough for it to be sort of, almost close.

Satisfactory from a group that was roundly thought to be the strength of the team?

Allie seems to be the best Bobcat in college football right now.

Turnover on the one?

Why are we still trying to beat ourselves?

We already lost.

BG had 5 sacks and as game went on seemed to have strong pass rush.

In-game adjustments?

Now that is funny!

I told my wife and kids I thought I was actually back in my 80's time capsule. Bad football man. Young or not it was depressing. I left with 2 minutes in the first half while my crew hung out for the usual halftime festivities.

It was moving to see Michael Jack Schmidt honored at halftime despite Schaus being involved. Took me way back to better times.

Take this 10 year snapshot and compare it to any 10 years over the prior 40 - 50 years.

You see someone with better numbers in here? You have to be the most pessimistic poster here.

Bob Kappes 1978 3-8 .273
Brian Burke 1979–1984 31-34-1 .478
Cleve Bryant 1985–1989 9-44-2 .182
Tom Lichtenberg 1990–1994 8-45-2 .145
Jim Grobe 1995–2000 33-33-1 .500
Brian Knorr 2001–2004 11-35 .239
Frank Solich 2005–Present 66-50 .569

So we have always sucked. 50 years of sucking. Is one MAC title too much to ask for, this is the MAC were talking about not the SEC.

I don't fathom that logic at all. Look at the last 27 games. Solich was quite good until then. Does the prior excuse what we are now.

Is there a successful business anywhere which would say "It hasn't been good for almost three years but it was the best six years we've had in decades before that so we'll stick with this significant mediocrity."

I said "successful" business.

With all due respect, Monroe, this is ridiculous. Solich didn't suddenly become a bad football coach 27 games ago. When you analyze a business you have to not only look at the current product but what's in the pipeline, what's R&D doing, what's the inventory, etc. Sometimes a bad streak is indicative of a bad business model or bad executive decisions and sometimes it is not. I submit with all the youth on this team that there is good product coming down the pipeline and that our executive brain trust is as good as ever.

As a fan, I do question certain things that I see on the field. For instance, I still don't understand why we don't go under center in short yardage situations. I also think that we should have different personnel in the game in certain situations than what we do. However, in the back of my mind I know that I may not know as much as the coaches who do this for a livelihood.

Also, Monroe, you continually want innovation. Today when we tried that reverse, it blew up in our faces. Just as BG's attempt blew up in their faces. Sometimes, executing basic plays well might be better than trying all sorts of new approaches. Admittedly we are not a well-oiled machine yet, but we did move the ball well today -- 500+ yards -- between the 30s. The offense looked much better than in the previous games. They seemed to get into a good rhythm at times, only to stall short of the end zone The defense was pretty good after the first five minutes. Anyone who can't see an improvement this week over last week just isn't looking and has his mind made up a priori.

Would you have given up on Microsoft in the DOS days when they were developing Windows, because it looked like IBM was getting a jump with OS/2?

They still have plenty of things to work on, of course. Since this is the "We suck" thread, I'll comment that they need to improve on picking up the blitz better and/or getting passes off quicker, and they need to improve on the long passes and fades.

Yup. Seemed like there was about a dozen times where Sprague had evade the pass rush and leave the pocket, leading to a run or a throw on the run. I do like his running ability. It's just solid, nothing too special.

And of course plenty of missed opportunities down the field. Which I'm glad were more prevalent this week -- we had a lot of chances. Sprague's accuracy is bad which KILLS our redzone offense since we don't have a dominant TE or WR.

Forgive me for being so long winded on the boards tonight - my girlfriend fell sound asleep two hours earlier than usual so I'm in binge sports mode.

Spoken like someone who spent a career in a government job. College football coaching is about consistency. Ohio is a bad team because of outdated schemes and less talent. Poor recruiting for the past few years is what has caused most of this. This season is just the result of a whole bunch of people not doing their jobs for an extended period. I can't wait to hear the discussions in 10 years about how our 80 yr old coach has done a great job being .500 for two decades in the MAC. Is that what our fanbase accepts as the definition of successful around here? If so, count me out.