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Topic: I seriously question why Daz Patterson gets so much PT
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Posted: 10/28/2014 1:05 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
At this point in the game, there should be no rebuilding, just reloading.
I agree with this.

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We should not be at a point where was have to play so many freshman. Clearly, something went wrong a couple years in the recruiting cycle. What? I don't know.

Honestly, I think what makes this year's "rebuilding" harder is the fact last year was such a disappointment (makes me think: Rebuilding from what?).

The strengthen of the team (defense) is not nearly as good as I thought they would be at the beginning of the season. (I need to start lowering my optimism)

I remember in 2008, Brian Kelly had to play 4 different QBs due to injuries and his UC team still made it to a BCS game with his "next man up" attitude. I could not even think about how ugly Ohio games would look if we got down to our 4th QB.

As for our "star" RB recruit not playing. I'm glad, behind this offensive line...it would not help in developing what every talent he may have. .
Last Edited: 10/28/2014 1:05:54 PM by cincybobcat99
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Posted: 10/28/2014 3:42 PM
cincybobcat99 wrote:expand_more
At this point in the game, there should be no rebuilding, just reloading.
I agree with this.

Random thoughts:

We should not be at a point where was have to play so many freshman. Clearly, something went wrong a couple years in the recruiting cycle. What? I don't know.

Honestly, I think what makes this year's "rebuilding" harder is the fact last year was such a disappointment (makes me think: Rebuilding from what?).

The strengthen of the team (defense) is not nearly as good as I thought they would be at the beginning of the season. (I need to start lowering my optimism)

I remember in 2008, Brian Kelly had to play 4 different QBs due to injuries and his UC team still made it to a BCS game with his "next man up" attitude. I could not even think about how ugly Ohio games would look if we got down to our 4th QB.

As for our "star" RB recruit not playing. I'm glad, behind this offensive line...it would not help in developing what every talent he may have. .
I think we got screwed up with our whole cycle last year where a few bad eggs ruined what should have been a stellar season. The team who was supposed to have a dream season didn't and then left and now we have to rebuild. I think if we have the season we were suppose to have last year and TT lives up to his potential people wouldn't be upset as they are now. People would say okay, we just lost are star qb and top RB and WR. This is going to be a down year offensively.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 6:43 PM
I've thought a lot about the deterioration of Tyler Tettleton's attitude last year and wondered why Frank put up with it. The only explanation I can come up with is that TT and Albin got sideways on offensive strategy and Frank agreed with Tyler to some extent. Why else would he keep him out there? And perhaps the hiring of Ipshording as "co-offensive coordinator" was meant as a signal to Albin that Frank indeed thought there was some validity to TT's complaints.
Last Edited: 10/28/2014 6:44:41 PM by SBH
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Posted: 10/28/2014 7:18 PM
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I've thought a lot about the deterioration of Tyler Tettleton's attitude last year and wondered why Frank put up with it. The only explanation I can come up with is that TT and Albin got sideways on offensive strategy and Frank agreed with Tyler to some extent. Why else would he keep him out there? And perhaps the hiring of Ipshording as "co-offensive coordinator" was meant as a signal to Albin that Frank indeed thought there was some validity to TT's complaints.
I don't think you have any evidence that any of this is remotely true. Isphording got his status to keep his pay competitive with his UT compensation.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 7:59 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
I've thought a lot about the deterioration of Tyler Tettleton's attitude last year and wondered why Frank put up with it. The only explanation I can come up with is that TT and Albin got sideways on offensive strategy and Frank agreed with Tyler to some extent. Why else would he keep him out there? And perhaps the hiring of Ipshording as "co-offensive coordinator" was meant as a signal to Albin that Frank indeed thought there was some validity to TT's complaints.
We have about enough information, none, that speculation will only reflect our own personal biases, bent or agenda. I would not speculate.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 10:57 PM
I know a lot of people on here blamed the problems of last year on TT, but I have always believed that issues with him were a symptom of problems, not the problem itself. I think there were internal issues that deeply affected the team togetherness, and I think that those were problems that could not be fixed mid-year. Solich has said that last year was very frustrating to him, too, and that the team wasn't happy, either, and that they came to him after the season, and together they have worked to prevent a repeat.

It's clear that even in their struggles this year, the team is together, and that they haven't divided, and that they are still focused on improving, and on winning. I don't expect a repeat of last year's problems.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:07 AM
Agreed. Wasn't trying to point out last years problems just saying that before last year started we could have pointed to this year and called it a rebuilding year. The results of last year is what's making it so difficult to bear
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:54 AM
Regardless of the mental issues, the 2013 Bobcats were not going to win the MACC or even the MAC East. BG and NIU were waaay better than us. We were a paper tiger from the start.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:02 AM
TheBobcatBandit wrote:expand_more
. . . The results of last year is what's making it so difficult to bear [this year's anticipated problems].
+1

Let me also take this opportunity to say that though my pre-season predictions were for a much better season, I thought even then in the back of my mind that this would be a season where we might start out poorly because of all the youth -- especially on the OL ad in the offensive backfield. However, when I make pre-season predictions for OHIO, I always do a "best case" scenario. Hey, as a recovering Cubs fan, I know how to be optimistic in the face of evidence to the contrary! :-)
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:42 AM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
Regardless of the mental issues, the 2013 Bobcats were not going to win the MACC or even the MAC East. BG and NIU were waaay better than us. We were a paper tiger from the start.

Oh, I agree with that completely. 2012 should have been the peak of the last cycle, but the peak was prevented by the incredible number of season-ending injuries that year (19, if i recall correctly). Even though 2013 had the featured players back on the offense, the defense and offensive line were past the peak. It should have been an OK year, but never would have been as good as 2012. What soured everyone was that the team was divided in 2013, and really looked bad down the stretch.
Last Edited: 10/29/2014 10:43:22 AM by L.C.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:27 AM
Back to the original topic here...

I'd like to know if I'm missing something, because it doesn't seem to be just Daz who does this, but we have a habit of punt returners not knowing when to get the hell away from the ball when it starts bouncing. As a punt returner, you either have to commit to catching that ball in the air or GET THE !@#$ AWAY FROM IT! Is there a coaching angle I'm missing here? What possible good can come from dancing around an unpredictable bouncing oblong when all it has to do is graze your uniform to turn into a very costly turnover?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:39 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
I've thought a lot about the deterioration of Tyler Tettleton's attitude last year and wondered why Frank put up with it. The only explanation I can come up with is that TT and Albin got sideways on offensive strategy and Frank agreed with Tyler to some extent. Why else would he keep him out there? And perhaps the hiring of Ipshording as "co-offensive coordinator" was meant as a signal to Albin that Frank indeed thought there was some validity to TT's complaints.
Problem here, is that OHIO has had "Co-coordinators" for years. This is not something that just happened this year.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:37 PM
Per Arkley, Coach Solich says that Daz is his man on KR/PR, no change at this time.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 4:29 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Per Arkley, Coach Solich says that Daz is his man on KR/PR, no change at this time.
I'd like to see him focus on returns and being a slot receiver on passing downs. I think the wear & tear of being an every-down back has taken a toll on his return game.
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