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Posted: 9/11/2015 4:18 PM
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Monroe. The key being running effectively. Sir, vs Idaho Ohio averaged 5.4 per rush. The sets they used contributed to averaging 11.4 yards per passing attempt, per attempt!!! Ohio averaged 7.8 yards per play over 63 plays. Why are you demanding a different scheme when what they did averaged 7.8 per play? Monroe, what would they have to average for you to say, all right, good job, keep it up? The hurry up was off the table early, for good reason. The TV commenters were praising Vick for his patience and clock burning. Ohio owned this game. When was there a need to hurry-up and why, really?
Except Idaho is really not good on defense. It's tough to point at any offensive stat from that game and say, "Look how good we are!" because Idaho is so bad.

(Other than those drives in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive. If we can run the ball like that tomorrow night at that point in the 4th quarter, I like our chances. A lot.)
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Posted: 9/11/2015 4:29 PM
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Posted: 9/11/2015 4:37 PM
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Monroe. The key being running effectively. Sir, vs Idaho Ohio averaged 5.4 per rush. The sets they used contributed to averaging 11.4 yards per passing attempt, per attempt!!! Ohio averaged 7.8 yards per play over 63 plays. Why are you demanding a different scheme when what they did averaged 7.8 per play? Monroe, what would they have to average for you to say, all right, good job, keep it up? The hurry up was off the table early, for good reason. The TV commenters were praising Vick for his patience and clock burning. Ohio owned this game. When was there a need to hurry-up and why, really?
Except Idaho is really not good on defense. It's tough to point at any offensive stat from that game and say, "Look how good we are!" because Idaho is so bad.

(Other than those drives in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive. If we can run the ball like that tomorrow night at that point in the 4th quarter, I like our chances. A lot.)
You make my point. "in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive." Given that result, would you be the guy to tell the staff, sure would have been better with that two back set, honestly? Can you see that the sets they did run with two backs did contribute to the 11.4 yards per passing attempt?
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Posted: 9/11/2015 6:06 PM
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Was anyone else on this board at the 1964 game? It was a 17-0 loss with one very interesting statistic, perhaps not repeated in the history of American football. If you were there, you probably know what I'm talking about.
I wasn't there, but the Internet tells me that Bob Griese threw and ran for TDs, kicked 2 extra points, and kicked a field goal.
Ding, ding, ding, virtual chicken dinner . . . that's the prize for internet research versus memory! ;-)

Do you think there has ever been another game in at least modern college football where one player has scored all the POINTS in a game with multiple TDs and at least one FG? The reason for this is kind of interesting. Purdue had three young players all of whom they were trying out for QB. The game program, which I still have, said that the plan was to use one QB in each of the three non-conference games and then make a decision who the starting QB would be when the conference season started. If Griese hadn't made it at QB, he was going to be the place kicker; therefore, he kicked the extra points and the field goal. After his performance against OHIO, the Purdue coaches abandoned their original plan and Bob was their QB from that point on and he relinquished the kicking duties to someone else.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 6:57 PM
It's killing me to not be in Atown for this one, but alas, D.A.'s better half has a birthday tomorrow. As for a game prediction: I went with Ohio on the preseason prediction, and I'm sticking with it, but then as now, I feel we really need to be great AND DISCIPLINED to win.

Nothing I saw about Marshall against Poodoo makes me feel we are not in the same class as the Herd, and I really like how professional/business-like the team was in Moscow. However, as in most any evenly matched game, I feel we need to split or win the TO battle, split or win penalty yardage and win in special teams to bring the W. Lose one or two of those and I could see it getting out of hand.

And one other thing: Blitz, please! I believe their QB can be rattled based on what I saw of him against the Boilers. A heavy dose of pressure might bring the same high INT performance we saw from Cato in the 44-7 trouncing.

Really feeling this coming down to kickers, so I think Yaz needs to be perfect on the night to bring home the W, 38-31 good guys, and with a record crowd to boot. I hope it is close to the end, and we retain at least 70-80% of the crowd to the final cannon.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 8:18 PM
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Monroe. The key being running effectively. Sir, vs Idaho Ohio averaged 5.4 per rush. The sets they used contributed to averaging 11.4 yards per passing attempt, per attempt!!! Ohio averaged 7.8 yards per play over 63 plays. Why are you demanding a different scheme when what they did averaged 7.8 per play? Monroe, what would they have to average for you to say, all right, good job, keep it up? The hurry up was off the table early, for good reason. The TV commenters were praising Vick for his patience and clock burning. Ohio owned this game. When was there a need to hurry-up and why, really?
Except Idaho is really not good on defense. It's tough to point at any offensive stat from that game and say, "Look how good we are!" because Idaho is so bad.

(Other than those drives in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive. If we can run the ball like that tomorrow night at that point in the 4th quarter, I like our chances. A lot.)
THANK YOU FOR POINTING TO CERTAIN POSTER THE EXTREMELY OBVIOUS, THAT THERE'S A SIGNIF CHANCE THAT 'DAHO'S DEFENSE IS NOT STELLAR. THIS WEEK WE MAY PLAY A TEAM WHICH IS INCLINED TO COVER OUR RECEIVERS.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 9:17 PM
So Marshall is staying at the OU inn tonight. Do we stay in Huntington the nite before we play them there?
I figure they're doing this to get used to all the long road trips coming up.
Any thoughts?
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Posted: 9/12/2015 1:08 AM
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So Marshall is staying at the OU inn tonight. Do we stay in Huntington the nite before we play them there?
I figure they're doing this to get used to all the long road trips coming up.
Any thoughts?
I think almost all college football teams stay the night before the game in town, no matter how short the trip.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 2:57 AM
I think this game today will show us how good or bad of a team we have . If they beat us down then we won't be good . If we lose close we might have a decent shot this year at a MACC. If we beat the herd by how ever many points I think this has the chance to be one of those teams you never forget . I really think this game is going to show us what Ohio is made of. Show us if this Defense is all that it's cracked up to be . If this run game can be dominate like a lot of ppl on here think in can be . IMHO this game is huge . I pumped to see what Ohio is made of .
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:13 AM
Funny Afos, I was just thinking about what our performance against the Herd will portend as well. I think it'll be a good bellwether as to how good we will generally be in the MAC. However, it will still take a few weeks for the numbers to really tell us anything substantial. Pretty sure Idaho is gonna get killed by USC, Purdue is playing Indiana State... Next week not much better with only Purdue being tested by VT...
That said, here's hoping we stick it to the Herd and send em' home with a loss... GO BOBCATS!!!
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:18 AM
Betting line this morning still has the 'cats as a 3 pt underdog. FWIW, Las Vegas Review Journal writer Matt Youmans makes a few college picks each week. He predicts Ohio will cover...
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:38 AM
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I think this game today will show us how good or bad of a team we have . If they beat us down then we won't be good . If we lose close we might have a decent shot this year at a MACC. If we beat the herd by how ever many points I think this has the chance to be one of those teams you never forget . I really think this game is going to show us what Ohio is made of. Show us if this Defense is all that it's cracked up to be . If this run game can be dominate like a lot of ppl on here think in can be . IMHO this game is huge . I pumped to see what Ohio is made of .
Two games ago Marshall was thumping a good MAC Champion 52-23. They are the Conf USA Champions, they are something like 25-5 since 2013. Yet, their coach and players seem to really respect Ohio. There will be no surprising Marshall. Again, their last game vs the MAC was 52-23 over the MAC Champs, with NIU having more than a minute edge in TOP. Last season they averaged 45 points per game, allowing 21 per game. Last season Marshall ran & passed for 7829 yards, allowing 4999. Last season TDs, Marshall rushing 40 TDs opp 15, passing Marshall 40 TDs opp 21. I am pretty sure Ohio will be a good MAC team, perhaps as good as NIU was last season, which was pretty good. We will see what that means vs Marshall in 2015.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 9:09 AM
IT IS GAMEDAY AND I'M FIRED UP!! GO BOBCATS!!
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Posted: 9/12/2015 12:21 PM
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Monroe. The key being running effectively. Sir, vs Idaho Ohio averaged 5.4 per rush. The sets they used contributed to averaging 11.4 yards per passing attempt, per attempt!!! Ohio averaged 7.8 yards per play over 63 plays. Why are you demanding a different scheme when what they did averaged 7.8 per play? Monroe, what would they have to average for you to say, all right, good job, keep it up? The hurry up was off the table early, for good reason. The TV commenters were praising Vick for his patience and clock burning. Ohio owned this game. When was there a need to hurry-up and why, really?
Except Idaho is really not good on defense. It's tough to point at any offensive stat from that game and say, "Look how good we are!" because Idaho is so bad.

(Other than those drives in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive. If we can run the ball like that tomorrow night at that point in the 4th quarter, I like our chances. A lot.)
THANK YOU FOR POINTING TO CERTAIN POSTER THE EXTREMELY OBVIOUS, THAT THERE'S A SIGNIF CHANCE THAT 'DAHO'S DEFENSE IS NOT STELLAR. THIS WEEK WE MAY PLAY A TEAM WHICH IS INCLINED TO COVER OUR RECEIVERS.

I wouldn't put much into beating Idaho. I believe that Idaho has only one win per season for the last four or five years? A couple of their wins came against NMSU. We are talking about programs that are EMU bad, the bottom of 1-A. Maybe Idaho will win a couple of games this year, who knows?
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Posted: 9/12/2015 12:58 PM
Peden is going to be the place to be tonight. I'm jealous of everyone in Athens for the game. College football at its finest.

GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 9/12/2015 1:16 PM
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Monroe. The key being running effectively. Sir, vs Idaho Ohio averaged 5.4 per rush. The sets they used contributed to averaging 11.4 yards per passing attempt, per attempt!!! Ohio averaged 7.8 yards per play over 63 plays. Why are you demanding a different scheme when what they did averaged 7.8 per play? Monroe, what would they have to average for you to say, all right, good job, keep it up? The hurry up was off the table early, for good reason. The TV commenters were praising Vick for his patience and clock burning. Ohio owned this game. When was there a need to hurry-up and why, really?
Except Idaho is really not good on defense. It's tough to point at any offensive stat from that game and say, "Look how good we are!" because Idaho is so bad.

(Other than those drives in the 4th quarter where we absolutely just ran it at them and there was no stopping us. That was impressive. If we can run the ball like that tomorrow night at that point in the 4th quarter, I like our chances. A lot.)
THANK YOU FOR POINTING TO CERTAIN POSTER THE EXTREMELY OBVIOUS, THAT THERE'S A SIGNIF CHANCE THAT 'DAHO'S DEFENSE IS NOT STELLAR. THIS WEEK WE MAY PLAY A TEAM WHICH IS INCLINED TO COVER OUR RECEIVERS.

I wouldn't put much into beating Idaho. I believe that Idaho has only one win per season for the last four or five years? A couple of their wins came against NMSU. We are talking about programs that are EMU bad, the bottom of 1-A. Maybe Idaho will win a couple of games this year, who knows?
The point was not that it was a great victory, it was that given the good results with the sets and scheme used it is not the time to suggest they are doing the wrong sets/schemes. Further, given how good Marshall has been, if Ohio struggles vs their talent, that will not mean different sets/schemes would work better.
Last Edited: 9/12/2015 4:51:42 PM by Bcat2
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:06 PM
stupd cow fans were REALLY into the game at home vs. Purdue 6 days ago.

OHIO fans better be fired up to match what stupdcowfan will likely bring.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:50 PM
I think a win would mean that we should have 8, maybe 9 wins this year. I see it like the majority of Ohio-T'erd games since '09 -- close and maybe decided on the last play. This year's team doesn't seem to self-destruct like last year's did, so we should win.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:10 PM
I'm not convinced Marshall has anymore talent these days than Ohio does. At a couple of skill positions maybe but that is about it. Both schools recruit similarly by taking chances with non-qualifiers and transfers.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:03 PM
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I'm not convinced Marshall has anymore talent these days than Ohio does. At a couple of skill positions maybe but that is about it. Both schools recruit similarly by taking chances with non-qualifiers and transfers.
ytownbobcat wrote:
Marshall has 40 guys on their roster from Florida, two dozen transfers .....


I think ytownbobcat exaggerates, but, 20+ from Fla indicates that if they recruit similarly the results are different.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:19 PM
Finally got the game on CW... how did Ohio score?
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:52 PM
Bank radio spot during the play of the game, really?
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:55 PM
Birdsong sucks!!!
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:56 PM
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Finally got the game on CW... how did Ohio score?
Zone read run by Daz on 3&5 near midfield
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