When we win the MAC Championship on Saturday, we will likely be rewarded with a trip to something called the "Game Above Sports Bowl" in Detroit. This is the prize for the Champion of one of the 8 largest conferences in College Football? Why are we even allowing ourselves to be treated as second class citizens? This is so pathetic. The apathy of the Administrators has now lessened the quality of our degrees.

You can say what you want, but the shaping of college sports has now increased the enrollment demands and prestige of degrees at places like Alabama, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Oregon, Arizona State, Florida, TCU, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Syracuse, and other formerly garbage academic institutions. Quality Kids are flooding admissions offices at P4 schools because of the sports landscape. Rightly or wrongly, schools like Ohio are being viewed as lesser due to us willingly taking a backseat to the P4.

The sooner our Administrators get a spine and take action, the quicker the value can return to an Ohio degree. Just getting pounded down year after year while our AD's and Administrators wait for a seat at the P4 table, is not a sustainable solution.

About 5,000 of us are going to sit in Detroit on Saturday and think we are winning something when we win the MAC Championship, when all we are doing is enabling the problem further.

Someone has to act.

Get on it, Mr. Steinbrecker.

Your posts while often good for a laugh, they are always so ludicrous it's hard to know what is shtick. I'm surprised you haven't said Julie is at fault because the $ pot at the end of the day should be MILLIONS per team, otherwise we should turn it down. BREACH OF FUDIACIARY RESPONSBILITY.

The truth of the matter is you're correct - 5,000 of you will be sitting in Detroit on Saturday. If it was 50,000 of you - they would start to take notice. Until then, P5 teams with much larger fan bases and much larger travel fans will get the 'better' bowls.

There are indeed bowl tie-ins, but teams aren't beholden to those spots. A bowl committee can still select whomever they please - which is why you often see 6 win teams in a random regional bowl. Because they put asses in seats.

Well we are second class citizens. Look at any measure you want- attendance, ticket prices, budgets, TV ratings, , recruiting, etc. We’re probably lucky that we get the revenue split that we do. Why would you think that we are anything but second class? We have become the minor leagues in college football and it’s not likely to get better.

You may have a point about getting paid adequately for showing up to get beat up, but there will always be teams who will undercut your demands to be paid more-including FCS teams. Just try to get all the G-5 teams to get in lockstep and demand bigger payouts- not likely to happen.

It’s sounds like we need to figure out a way to raise millions of dollars for athletics so we become a higher ranked academic institution. Do you have some alternative methods?

And there are dozens of us! And we can't even sell tickets to the game here for less than face value.

Missing the point as always.....honestly, I don't have time to explain it to you. If you took all the MAC alums out of the horseshoe during the Michigan game - it would be 70-75% full. It's representative. Put us on semi-equal footing as the Big 10 / SEC / Big 12 / ACC and the retention numbers of alums goes way up. We lose all of our alums/fans to schools they didn't even attend. It's pathetic.

....Or sit apathetically telling me why it's impossible and why our administrators sit by the phone waiting for Arkansas to magically dial their number for the P5 job they covet so badly, that they won't lift a responsible finger to improve the situation at the place that signs their paychecks every 2 weeks.

Don’t you love the theater of watching a man argue with his alter ego? It’s so much fun, BA ought to charge for admission and give the money to our NIL collective.

The new bowl name replaces the Quick Lane Bowl. Kindly tell me how many MAC champions have played in the Quick Lane Bowl. I believe the answer is zero. Your histrionic posts are at least good for a chuckle.

My Ohio degrees served me quite well BTW. Trying to correlate Bowl appearances and the prestige of said bowl to academic achievement is bizarre.

Okay, smartass, give me the URL where I said 1 out of every 1.2 people in Midtown Manhattan get robbed, or something even close to that, given a little hyperbole among friends is A-OK. I suppose it’s possible I gave rpbobcat a virtual pat on the back for trolling you, as I enjoyed it when he did that.

Yes, that's why I tried to publicly downplay my stance on firing Tim Albin two years after the fact. I "need" to be "right".

And when called on it, with links, I moved the conversation into another thread to avoid it.

I also think murder is bad. Look at us, finding common ground.

OCF and I had a debate about Florida's "Don't say gay" law however many years ago. I won't rehash the details here or engage in another conversation about the specifics now that the mods have been very clear about the policy there. And I'm going to avoid talking about NYC crime for the same reason.

But 10 months after that conversation, OCF re-raused it, out of the blue, with a blatantly dishonest representation of what I said. You know, because of my need to be right. He also accused me of "making up my resume on BA" (he really, really seems to think I'm Bobcat Love and keeps doubling down on it). The posts are all still there, and I provided links and quotes at the time.

So now I f*ck with OCF by making sure his intellectual dishonesty is called out whenever I notice it. Need to be right? Feelings of inadequacy? Maybe. Also, a lot of fun.

Is the problem what the MAC needs more money before it has more fan support, or is it that the MAC needs more fan support before it has more money?

You have higher quality prospective students applying to P4 universities because the profiles have been raised by high level athletics. Ohio, WMU, Kent, Toledo, Bowling Green - we are gum on their shoe. It's become an embarassment.

More importantly, as I have pointed out for the last 20 years, the strongest growth in endowments has primarily occurred in two groups: the ultra-elite universities (e.g. Harvard, Yale, U. Chicago, Cal Tech), and the P4. The P4 has been using those contributions to fund new buildings and other advances.

That doesn't change the question, however. What share of the overall college football revenue is the G5 "entitled" to, and why? In fact, the above actually brings up two additional questions:
1. Given that the flow of money to the general funds of Universities is far more significant to their long term health than the money spent directly on athletics, would getting a few extra dollars from football actually change anything?
2. Would Ohio be better served in the long term by trying to become more of an ultra-elite university, to truly become the "Harvard on the Hocking"?

Growing at a rate faster than its peers?