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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:54 PM
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This team has enough team talent to win a MACC but will the QB's stay healthy enough to finish out the last 7 games. Vick is barely healthy enough to get out on the field. Sprauge is out indefinitely. Even Windham has shown up on the injury reports sporadically this year.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 9:37 PM
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Good thing we have six on the roster.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 9:57 PM
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Urban Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Good thing we have six on the roster.

Well, five, since Krizancic isn't eligible this year due to his transfer. Even in the bizarre case that you got through all five, there are others than played QB in high school, such as Cope and Meyer.

Overall the situation isn't good, but I've seen much worse. One team I watched had the #3 QB transfer before the season since he didn't think he'd play. Then the starter had some non-football health issues that took him out for the season, the #2 QB broke some ribs, the #4 QB broke his thumb, and then when he was able to return to play from that, broke his collarbone on his first series. That left #5, a walkon who played adequately. They even made the student manager into the scout team QB, but he got tendinitis in his shoulder.

Even with all that they still had a successful season because of a great defense. Ohio's defense has the potential to be great, too, so I don't anticipate the QB problems from preventing a good season...they will just make it a little more challenging.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:45 PM
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TT played as a freshman than sat his 2nd season. If needed, put in Maxwell. He can gain some experience and than work on his weaknesses and perfect his strengths as a 2nd year sitter.

Just win! Burn whatever shirt you need to have the best healthy team on the field.
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Vick looked to be moving well at Tuesday's practice. Much better than during the 2nd half last Saturday. He threw the ball well and his accuracy was head and shoulders above all other QB's on this day. JD was watching practice offering encouragement to his teammates but not throwing.
Keeping fingers crossed that DV can stay healthy as we wade into the meat of the MAC schedule.
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Vick looked to be moving well at Tuesday's practice. Much better than during the 2nd half last Saturday. He threw the ball well and his accuracy was head and shoulders above all other QB's on this day. JD was watching practice offering encouragement to his teammates but not throwing.
Keeping fingers crossed that DV can stay healthy as we wade into the meat of the MAC schedule.
I think Vick is by far the most accurate quarterback Ohio has, but his inability to run the last two games has limited what the offense can do. I think he is no doubt in the upper half - perhaps upper third - of QBs in the MAC if he's healthy.
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Good thing we have six on the roster.

Overall the situation isn't good, but I've seen much worse. One team I watched had the #3 QB transfer before the season since he didn't think he'd play. Then the starter had some non-football health issues that took him out for the season, the #2 QB broke some ribs, the #4 QB broke his thumb, and then when he was able to return to play from that, broke his collarbone on his first series. That left #5, a walkon who played adequately. They even made the student manager into the scout team QB, but he got tendinitis in his shoulder.
Maryland finished the 2012 season with a linebacker playing quarterback. Four quarterbacks suffered season-ending injuries, including one before the season began.
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Good thing we have six on the roster.

Well, five, since Krizancic isn't eligible this year due to his transfer. Even in the bizarre case that you got through all five, there are others than played QB in high school, such as Cope and Meyer.

Overall the situation isn't good, but I've seen much worse. One team I watched had the #3 QB transfer before the season since he didn't think he'd play. Then the starter had some non-football health issues that took him out for the season, the #2 QB broke some ribs, the #4 QB broke his thumb, and then when he was able to return to play from that, broke his collarbone on his first series. That left #5, a walkon who played adequately. They even made the student manager into the scout team QB, but he got tendinitis in his shoulder.
Those were the days. That #2 QB was the ultimate team player and a world class human being, if we are remembering the same team/season.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:01 AM
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Vick looked to be moving well at Tuesday's practice. Much better than during the 2nd half last Saturday. He threw the ball well and his accuracy was head and shoulders above all other QB's on this day. JD was watching practice offering encouragement to his teammates but not throwing.
Keeping fingers crossed that DV can stay healthy as we wade into the meat of the MAC schedule.
Good news. Per Miami's coach Miami tends to lack discipline which results in giving up explosive plays. Mr. Vick so deserves a day at 100% vs such a defense. He won't be near 100% vs Miami, but, I hope he can play without too much effect from injury.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:22 AM
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UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Good thing we have six on the roster.

Overall the situation isn't good, but I've seen much worse. One team I watched had the #3 QB transfer before the season since he didn't think he'd play. Then the starter had some non-football health issues that took him out for the season, the #2 QB broke some ribs, the #4 QB broke his thumb, and then when he was able to return to play from that, broke his collarbone on his first series. That left #5, a walkon who played adequately. They even made the student manager into the scout team QB, but he got tendinitis in his shoulder.
Maryland finished the 2012 season with a linebacker playing quarterback. Four quarterbacks suffered season-ending injuries, including one before the season began.

Arkley tweeted today about a Kansas State lineman who is ready to play QB if needed. Here is the story: http://es.pn/1FVfEVq

Behind their current starter is a sixth string walkon, and a 297 lb, 6 foot tall defensive lineman. Last week they used a receiver at QB. The starting center has also volunteered, just in case the defensive lineman doesn't pan out.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:41 AM
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UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Good thing we have six on the roster.

Overall the situation isn't good, but I've seen much worse. One team I watched had the #3 QB transfer before the season since he didn't think he'd play. Then the starter had some non-football health issues that took him out for the season, the #2 QB broke some ribs, the #4 QB broke his thumb, and then when he was able to return to play from that, broke his collarbone on his first series. That left #5, a walkon who played adequately. They even made the student manager into the scout team QB, but he got tendinitis in his shoulder.
Maryland finished the 2012 season with a linebacker playing quarterback. Four quarterbacks suffered season-ending injuries, including one before the season began.
Wasn't aware Sonny Sano had worked at Maryland. :)
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:44 AM
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Can we simply sit Vick? We can beat Miami with a heavy does of our RBs (yes - including Irons). If Miami gives up big plays, the RBs can make it happen. We need Vick healthy. I know you take it one game at a time and "any given Saturday," but we should be able to handle Miami - hell, maybe even Western, without him - or is no other QB able to go?
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:51 AM
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Vick looked to be moving well at Tuesday's practice. Much better than during the 2nd half last Saturday. He threw the ball well and his accuracy was head and shoulders above all other QB's on this day. JD was watching practice offering encouragement to his teammates but not throwing.
Keeping fingers crossed that DV can stay healthy as we wade into the meat of the MAC schedule.
I think Vick is by far the most accurate quarterback Ohio has, but his inability to run the last two games has limited what the offense can do. I think he is no doubt in the upper half - perhaps upper third - of QBs in the MAC if he's healthy.
Agree 100%. The drop in productivity while Vick is struggling with his wheels is reminiscent to Tyler's inability/unwillingness to run. But also shows the tendency of the coaching staff to deal with a non-running running QB I suppose.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:31 PM
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Can we simply sit Vick? We can beat Miami with a heavy does of our RBs (yes - including Irons). If Miami gives up big plays, the RBs can make it happen. We need Vick healthy. I know you take it one game at a time and "any given Saturday," but we should be able to handle Miami - hell, maybe even Western, without him - or is no other QB able to go?
Their coach sited issues with failure of back side containment and DBs not dealing well with receivers. It is not that they are weak and will just be run over. Based upon the last two games DCs will be loading the box vs Ohio and it will be up to Ohio to take what else the defense will then give more easily. Vick will be Ohio's best chance at taking advantage. Coach Dixon's crew needs to be "on." First for Vick, then for Windham who can do better than that last impression everyone has. If the passing can open things for the run there might be 25-30 snaps for the RBs. Spreading these equally across five RBs is not how you take care of your starters who would like to compete for recognition.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:51 PM
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B - Windham is a passer - so he can open things up - not as well as Vick - but we can beat Miami with a solid Windham and our RBs - and who said anything about spreading carries "equally across five RBs" - for any reason - especially the one you inserted.
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Actually, I believe Wyndham is more of a runner. His INT against Akron was not a difficult throw but terribly underthrown. I say sit Vick this week.
Last Edited: 10/7/2015 2:47:57 PM by SBH
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:07 PM
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Windham's best appearance was against BG last year, late in the game. He started at the Ohio 38, and the plays were:
Complete to Cochran for 6
Complete to Cochran for 6
Complete to Bradley for 12
Complete to Bradley for 24
Complete to S. Smith for 6
Complete to S. Smith for 4
Complete to D. Brown for 3 to BG 1, fumbled, BG ball
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Actually, I believe Wyndham is more of a runner. His INT against Akron was not a difficult throw but terribly underthrown. I say sit Vick this week.
That had to have been nerves.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:52 PM
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Doesn't matter the reason why redhawk is lousy.

Doesn't matter what our qb health situation is (though I wish good health to all).

Injuries are an unfortunate fact of football.

We have to play well with the young men who are available.

No excuses.
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That had to have been nerves.

I agree. I think that with more time in game, he'll settle down and play to his ability, which is why I'm hoping he gets quite a bit more time. If Vick is going to play, I'd guess it will be pre-set, Vick gets Q1, Windham gets Q2. That way he'll know in advance when he will go in.
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Doesn't matter the reason why redhawk is lousy.

Doesn't matter what our qb health situation is (though I wish good health to all).

Injuries are an unfortunate fact of football.

We have to play well with the young men who are available.

No excuses.
A problem for you is that you can't differentiate between excuses and reasons.
You just don't get it. Have a great evening!
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Okay, enlighten me then.

The circumstances (quality of opponent, injuries) are what they are. These are things which obtain in every game, every season.

So, to lay off sub-par performance to these things gets old to me after a while.

The real question may be...as certain other author of posts might ask..is why does large injury factor keep happening and can we do anything to combat it.

But, no excuses.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 6:42 AM
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Doesn't matter the reason why redhawk is lousy.

Doesn't matter what our qb health situation is (though I wish good health to all).

Injuries are an unfortunate fact of football.

We have to play well with the young men who are available.

No excuses.

And indeed they are. 4-1. Well done boys keep it rolling.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:33 AM
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Okay, enlighten me then.

The circumstances (quality of opponent, injuries) are what they are. These are things which obtain in every game, every season.

So, to lay off sub-par performance to these things gets old to me after a while.

The real question may be...as certain other author of posts might ask..is why does large injury factor keep happening and can we do anything to combat it.

But, no excuses.
"Sub-par performance." When "par" gets elivated to MACC, with wins only counting if vs MAC teams with winning records and then only if they meet style standards determined after the fact, well, is this Ohio or Ohio State?

Really, what has been sub-par?
Last Edited: 10/8/2015 8:17:01 AM by Bcat2
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From what I've been reading,it doesn't look like Sprauge is anywhere near ready to return.

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about a medical redshirt ?
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