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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:24 PM
It’s amazing how all of a sudden Albin is a total villain. We’re not even sure exactly what happened, how bad he was treated (if he was) and all this in spite how authentic he always seemed. Did he turn out to be such a despicable human being all of a sudden. It looks terrible on so many fronts (still waiting on some kind of response from him), but I can’t put my brain around what just happened and why.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:26 PM
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Pretty pathetic that he couldn't let his players, who loved him so much, enjoy this moment for even a couple hours. Biggest moment the fans have ever had and they don't even get to enjoy it. It's truly sad. Could he not have waited even one day?!

Disappointed that he left Athens for an historically worse program. Evidently they're willing to pay a lot to him that they weren't paying their previous coaches, and that OU isn't paying now. I don't fault him for that. But it would have been a lot easier seeing him leave for a step up. This is a lateral move and that's if I'm being generous.
I am sure he couldn’t control when the news would be leaked. Also see my post above. He was not being treated the way he should have been and I am one of the mad fans. We need to be pointing our fingers else where. He did so much for our program in the 20 years he was here.
If he was treated so badly why did he constantly thank Cromer and Gonsalez (and Amy Dean)??


It was painful watching him try to speak at the Charlotte presser. Toastmasters would help him a lot.
LOL because he had to. Everyone would love to watch you speak in front of that many people.
No, actually he didn't need to.

LOL. It wasn't 10,000 people he was "attempting" to speak too. A relatively small room or maybe 60-100 people. He looked like he'd rather be having a root canal than speaking.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:28 PM
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:45 PM
Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:54 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
There was an announcement about Smith and Hauser coaching the bowl game and quick thank you comment directed towards TA's departure. that's enough for me. he's gone. eyes on the future.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:05 PM
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Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
There was an announcement about Smith and Hauser coaching the bowl game and quick thank you comment directed towards TA's departure. that's enough for me. he's gone. eyes on the future.
I would think you do a formal press release of some kind.
Obviously his departure did not happen over night.

Some type of explanation is warranted.

Albin gave every indication he was happy here.

What happened ?
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:28 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
There was an announcement about Smith and Hauser coaching the bowl game and quick thank you comment directed towards TA's departure. that's enough for me. he's gone. eyes on the future.
I would think you do a formal press release of some kind.
Obviously his departure did not happen over night.

Some type of explanation is warranted.

Albin gave every indication he was happy here.

What happened ?

Does that happen anywhere? You want the AD to put out a triage presser? Cmon.

"We thought he was happy here. :( Turns out he wasn't. :("

The explanation is he left for more money and likely an opportunity to cement his own legacy. Maybe he felt 20 years in Frank's shadow was too much - or more likely - like I keep saying - he just married his first girlfriend. Has he ever interviewed anywhere else in the last 20 years? They wooed him and he jumped. You expect either party to put out a press release saying as much?
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:29 PM
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been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:32 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
There was an announcement about Smith and Hauser coaching the bowl game and quick thank you comment directed towards TA's departure. that's enough for me. he's gone. eyes on the future.
I would think you do a formal press release of some kind.
Obviously his departure did not happen over night.

Some type of explanation is warranted.

Albin gave every indication he was happy here.

What happened ?

Does that happen anywhere? You want the AD to put out a triage presser? Cmon.

"We thought he was happy here. :( Turns out he wasn't. :("

The explanation is he left for more money and likely an opportunity to cement his own legacy. Maybe he felt 20 years in Frank's shadow was too much - or more likely - like I keep saying - he just married his first girlfriend. Has he ever interviewed anywhere else in the last 20 years? They wooed him and he jumped. You expect either party to put out a press release saying as much?
He also wanted the AD to put out a press release after Albin's first season publicly scolding him for not being good enough, and making sure the fanbase knew that the results weren't up to standard. And, he complained about Albin's contract as too generous.

Now he'll hop aboard the "AD and Administration weren't supportive enough of Albin" train.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:33 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Has Julie or any other O.U. representative O.U. made any official announcement
or issued a press release about Albin leaving ?
There was an announcement about Smith and Hauser coaching the bowl game and quick thank you comment directed towards TA's departure. that's enough for me. he's gone. eyes on the future.
I would think you do a formal press release of some kind.
Obviously his departure did not happen over night.

Some type of explanation is warranted.

Albin gave every indication he was happy here.

What happened ?

Does that happen anywhere? You want the AD to put out a triage presser? Cmon.

"We thought he was happy here. :( Turns out he wasn't. :("

The explanation is he left for more money and likely an opportunity to cement his own legacy. Maybe he felt 20 years in Frank's shadow was too much - or more likely - like I keep saying - he just married his first girlfriend. Has he ever interviewed anywhere else in the last 20 years? They wooed him and he jumped. You expect either party to put out a press release saying as much?
He also wanted the AD to put out a press release after Albin's first season publicly scolding him for not being good enough, and making sure the fanbase knew that the results weren't up to standard. And, he complained about Albin's contract as too generous.

Now he'll hop aboard the "AD and Administration weren't supportive enough of Albin" train.
Yep. Someone - thankfully - bumped that thread of Ablin's extension and predictably people were not happy about it then - to see now that people are flummoxed and enraged about his pay and expected her to not only extend him further than 2026 but give him $1M at that time is pretty funny.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:36 PM
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been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

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And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:38 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:42 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!
Yeah, I'm not mad at him at all for leaving. He can do what he wants. I also believe his dog was sick. I also don't believe that his dog being sick was the only reason that he got off the bus. I totally believe that Charlotte warned him that it had been leaked and he didn't know how else to handle it. I suspect that he planned to address the team after the celebration and circumstances prevented that. He should have said something though. This wasn't that right way to handle it.

Just like Mark Sears, the exit was done wrong. I don't get all the hate for Sears. I still root for Sears. I still hope Albin succeeds. But his exit was done wrong. I'm not going to dwell on it.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:47 PM
Yes, I saw the thing about the sick dog, etc. etc.

yes, this whole thing could have been handled better. And I don't want to diminish those that are hurt by this decision, specifically the players on that bus who brought us home a MAC title.

But as an alum and fan...Today it's Albin. Two years ago it was Sears. Next year it could be Boals. As others have said. it happened. Time to focus on the future.

Remember Coughlin's Law: All things end badly, otherwise, they wouldn't end.

Yes, I just quoted Cocktail.

Go Cats !!
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:48 PM
ShoreCat wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
I think you’re missing the point. Nobody is mad that he left, and while many find the destination baffling it isn’t about Charlotte.

The anger is over him literally walking off the bus on the team, not saying a word to them about it only for them to find out on twitter, then never addressing it before he’s speaking at his introductory conference at the new job.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 2:50 PM
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Yes, I saw the thing about the sick dog, etc. etc.

yes, this whole thing could have been handled better.

But today it's Albin. Two years ago it was Sears. Next year it could be Boals.

Remember Coughlin's Law: All things end badly, otherwise, they wouldn't end.

Yes, I just quoted Cocktail.

Go Cats !!
Coughlin's Law: Bury the dead. They stink up the joint.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:04 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
I think you’re missing the point. Nobody is mad that he left, and while many find the destination baffling it isn’t about Charlotte.

The anger is over him literally walking off the bus on the team, not saying a word to them about it only for them to find out on twitter, then never addressing it before he’s speaking at his introductory conference at the new job.
Right. Saturday should have been remembered as the greatest day in Ohio football history. There's only so much Tim can do to control a news leak, but it did happen, and knowing the players and students there to greet them couldn't be in the complete mindset to properly celebrate, it puts a gray cloud over the win.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:11 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
I think you’re missing the point. Nobody is mad that he left, and while many find the destination baffling it isn’t about Charlotte.

The anger is over him literally walking off the bus on the team, not saying a word to them about it only for them to find out on twitter, then never addressing it before he’s speaking at his introductory conference at the new job.

That’s not fully true. He addressed them at a team meeting on Sunday.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:32 PM
And I'm sure he'll reach out OUr top players today to personally congratulate them =)
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:35 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:43 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
Check out Eric Decker’s Twitter/X feed and you’ll see confirmation.

He also just absolutely torched him in an opinion piece - https://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/col...

This is coming from an Athens Messenger reporter who has spoken to Albin more than 99+% of this board and more importantly, I would bet he has had contact with the players.
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And I'm sure he'll reach out OUr top players today to personally congratulate them =)
Too funny!
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:54 PM
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:54 PM
Well, written article. Couldn’t agree with it more.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 4:03 PM
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In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
Worse than before a bowl game. He did it with a meaningful game left.

I don’t know the man, but being polite is not the same thing as having good morals and self awareness. I hope he feels some shame.
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