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Posted: 11/19/2015 2:43 PM
Of all the nights this game falls on, it falls on the one night this month that I have a board meeting...crap
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Posted: 11/19/2015 2:55 PM
We're going to need 12-15 play drives for touchdowns three or four times to win the game. Or a defensive or special teams TD. I don't see us playing it straight up and winning. Need to shorten the game or have something flukey happen.
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Posted: 11/19/2015 6:35 PM
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Looking forward to my first trip to DeKalb for this one. There is a lot riding on the game for NIU in particular, and I would love for us to knock them down a peg.
From the looks of the crowd last night, you're not going to have any problem getting a good seat, David. That's midweek MACtion at it's best.

Indeed, perhaps I could take it on as a challenge to sit in every unoccupied seat just for kicks! Might not finish by the end of the game.

I do have to say it appeared that WMU's fans traveled well for last night's game, however that may have been some creative videography.

And as you may be aware Sweet Lou, the OHIO-Chicago Alumni base is one of the largest outside the state of Ohio, but a quick check of the Alumni Events Calendar shows there is neither a group getting together for the game in DeKalb nor a game watch. Weak sauce Chicago alumni.
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Posted: 11/19/2015 11:17 PM
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I have a friend who is a BG grad and he's going to be rooting for NIU, the fink! ;-) His excuse is that he doesn't want to face Toledo for a second time this season in the MACC.
I gotta believe the people in the MAC offices want Ohio to win just to have that rematch. Maybe we get funny refereeing? Such as a safety from the 4 yard line.
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Posted: 11/19/2015 11:56 PM
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I gotta believe the people in the MAC offices want Ohio to win just to have that rematch. Maybe we get funny refereeing? Such as a safety from the 4 yard line.
Maybe the NIU Band gets an unsportsmanlike penalty for making too much noise on a crucial Bobcat drive. There are many arrows in the MAC refs quiver. ;-)

Edit: Anyone remember the "roughing the center" call against us on a certain potentially winning FG years ago? Maybe it's time to pull that one out as well. Have only seen it called once since, and that was in an SEC game.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 12:02 AM
NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 4:39 AM
Start Irons.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:40 AM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:51 AM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Clearly, they execute better.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:56 AM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Clearly, they execute better.
I think that was kind of his point.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 10:51 AM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Clearly, they execute better.
I think that was kind of his point.
I took his point (which I agree with) to be that we find excuses ("we just need to execute better") to justify our shortcomings, while NIU overcomes.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 11:09 AM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Yeah, Ohio would just concede defeat if its starting QB and top rusher went down. I mean except for three days ago when that happened and Ohio won by 17.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 11:12 AM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM

One difference might be that their injury list is 4 players, while Ohio's was as high as 18 players. Hopefully that gap is narrowing, though, as more players are returning than there are new injuries.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 12:30 PM
Cats-22 wrote:expand_more
NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Yeah, Ohio would just concede defeat if its starting QB and top rusher went down. I mean except for three days ago when that happened and Ohio won by 17.
Except that Ohio's win (as good as it was, and it was indeed good) came against a bad Ball State team starting a freshman QB. NIU beat Western Michigan AND Toledo without its starting QB. Quite an impressive feat.

But I agree-I think Ohio potentially can give NIU all it can handle.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 1:16 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
And no Tommy Lee Lewis. Somehow NIU is able to withstand injuries to their starting QB and top offensive playmaker without losing by 50? That's crazy. SARCASM
Yeah, Ohio would just concede defeat if its starting QB and top rusher went down. I mean except for three days ago when that happened and Ohio won by 17.
Except that Ohio's win (as good as it was, and it was indeed good) came against a bad Ball State team starting a freshman QB. NIU beat Western Michigan AND Toledo without its starting QB. Quite an impressive feat.

But I agree-I think Ohio potentially can give NIU all it can handle.

And except that besides being missing their starting QB and top runner, Ohio also had injuries to five of seven safeties, two of their top five cornerbacks, all of the the top four linebackers, the top three defensive tackles, and two of the top four defensive ends.

So far as I know, these are the defensive players with injuries, either out, or playing hurt:
Safety - Nelson, Carpenter, Scipio, Macer, Cunningham
Cornerbacks - Bass, Brunson
Linebackers - J. Johnson, Poling, Brown, Moore
Defensive Tackles - Tautuiaki, Sayles
Defensive Ends - Basham, Smart, Purdum

Here are the defenders that I believe to he healthy:
Safety - T. Davis, D. Jones
Cornerback - Wells, Layton, Provitt, Terpin
Linebackers - Daugherty, Croutch, DiCillo
Defensive Tackles - Porter, Aloese
Defensive Ends - Laseak, Robbins, Berger

It's the last game of the season, and I know that anyone that can play, will play. Go Bobcats!
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Posted: 11/20/2015 3:25 PM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
Agreed. This is why I'm calling for a close Ohio win, by a FG.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 3:44 PM
We're now on year 4 of the injury excuse.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 4:26 PM
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We're now on year 4 of the injury excuse.
And year 4 of "this program is just fine" while we continued to get drummed by the upper-tier of the MAC.

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Posted: 11/20/2015 4:30 PM
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NIU's starting QB is out for the season. They made their way past Buffalo by 11 and WMU by 8. For this reason I believe we'll be competitive on Tuesday.
Agreed. This is why I'm calling for a close Ohio win, by a FG.
I love the optimism. But I think NIU will be 14-point favorites.

34-1 in last 35 at home

22 straight November wins

Ohio has played 1 upper-tier MAC team to within 10 points in the last four years (0-13 during that stretch)....ironically it was NIU last year (21-14)

If Ohio wins....this would arguably be the best MAC win in 11 years of Solich era.....and quite possibly up there with the win at Penn State.

I just don't see it happening.....but we can always hope!
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Posted: 11/20/2015 6:32 PM
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. . .
If Ohio wins....this would arguably be the best MAC win in 11 years of Solich era.....and quite possibly up there with the win at Penn State. . . .
Aren't you forgetting several key wins over excellent Temple teams. a previous win over NIU, the 2009 win over BG, and some others?
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:06 PM
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We're now on year 4 of the injury excuse.
And year 4 of "this program is just fine" while we continued to get drummed by the upper-tier of the MAC.

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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:08 PM
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. . .
If Ohio wins....this would arguably be the best MAC win in 11 years of Solich era.....and quite possibly up there with the win at Penn State. . . .
Aren't you forgetting several key wins over excellent Temple teams. a previous win over NIU, the 2009 win over BG, and some others?

Seriously?

Using the term of a coaching career, especially at one school, those wins occurred about 45 years ago. No one cares about them now. They are no palliative for the current/recent.
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:16 PM
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. . .
If Ohio wins....this would arguably be the best MAC win in 11 years of Solich era.....and quite possibly up there with the win at Penn State. . . .
Aren't you forgetting several key wins over excellent Temple teams. a previous win over NIU, the 2009 win over BG, and some others?

Seriously?

Using the term of a coaching career, especially at one school, those wins occurred about 45 years ago. No one cares about them now. They are no palliative for the current/recent.
How about a win this year against a 9-2 Marshall team
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Posted: 11/20/2015 9:50 PM
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. . .
If Ohio wins....this would arguably be the best MAC win in 11 years of Solich era.....and quite possibly up there with the win at Penn State. . . .
Aren't you forgetting several key wins over excellent Temple teams. a previous win over NIU, the 2009 win over BG, and some others?

Seriously?

Using the term of a coaching career, especially at one school, those wins occurred about 45 years ago. No one cares about them now. They are no palliative for the current/recent.
Please take a remedial reading class. What was the statement I was responding to? Why does your response show a total lack of reading comprehension?
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Posted: 11/20/2015 10:34 PM
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We're now on year 4 of the injury excuse.

I cringe a bit at your word choice. "Excuse" implies that either the injuries aren't real, or that injuries have no affect on performance, and obviously neither is true. Certainly it is saddening, even demoralizing for us, as fans, to see our favorite players getting hurt so often over the last four years, but consider for a moment that the effect has to at least as great on the players. It has to be a tough coaching job to keep their morale up when they are number 1 in the country in injuries, or close, four years running.

It would be easier if there were some pattern to the injuries, or some obvious explanation. Then they could understand and/or fix them. Instead we see injuries to pretty much every part of the body. I'm not totally sure of all these, but I think these are the injuries:
Leg: Tautuaiki, Patterson
Knees: White, Mangen, Sayles, Poling
Ankles: Vick, B. Brown, J. Johnson
Groin: Carpenter, Scipio, Nelson
Shoulders: Wood
Thumbs: Bass, Moore
Illness: C. Brown
Concussions: Macer
Wrist: Vick
Foot: Cunningham, Smart
Hip: Lowery

The only pattern I see is that all three of the groin injuries are to safeties. Mostly it seems to be bad luck. Maybe it's the curse of Bo Schembechler, I don't know.
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