Sure, Houston won their conference and made the NY6 for the non-P5, but I'm beginning to wonder what the value of that even is now. It will generate more money for the conference and school in general, but from a competition standpoint the game basically means nothing in the long term.
I'm almost inclined to believe that the Group of Five should start their own 4-team playoff.
It's of the same value that bowl games are to WVU or Texas A&M or Arizona....or any other team.
Playing in a NY6 Bowl game is the next best thing to making the CFB playoff. Yeah, for some school...you might not see the benefits because you're there so often (i.e. Notre Dame, Ohio State, Stanford, etc)....
But ask NIU if they benefited from their Orange Bowl...
Or if Boise State benefited from their multiple BCS bids...
Or TCU
Making these games can only help your program. You don't think there's a benefit of Ohio playing in the Fiesta Bowl rather than the Camellia Bowl?
That's like saying, what's the value of Ohio making the NCAA Sweet Sixteen when they can just play in the CBI.
Silly to not see the benefit of a NY6 bowl game...
You don't think recruits wouldn't look at Ohio differently if they made a NY6 game....
Showing that Ohio or any other G5 school can compete on that level puts them a few steps higher than their competition.....you reap more benefits and your program grows.
That's not what I'm saying at all. Of course I see the value of it when it comes to recruiting, program prestige, school notoriety, etc.
My point is more geared towards the competition aspect of this thing. It doesn't mean anything outside of the small world of Ohio. Sure some college football writers and experts will remember that one time Ohio played in a nice bowl game that didn't mean anything on a national landscape.
Until the Group of Five are actually included in the College Football Playoff, there will technically be no meaning to the postseason competitively from a certain point of view. Financial aspects and marketability are a totally different issue animal. There's tons of value in that.
Respectfully disagree.
I think this a great way to get your name on the national landscape.
You think there are more people that know who Boise, TCU & NIU are...even UCF after BCS bowl games?
I think there is great value on making it.
It's a huge feather in your cap if you're striving for national relevance or exposure.
Ohio hoops is still benefiting from Sweet 16 exposure.
These things help more than your giving credit for
As popular as those schools are, they are still no where near closer to playing for a national championship (TCU excluded because they are now in the Big 12). Boise State got as high as #2 one year but they blew their chance and that might be as high as any G5 team gets again. The system is designed to exclude schools like Ohio, save for the one spot in a rotation bowl game.
Now, I agree those schools are more popular because of what they achieved. It doesn't make them any closer to being on the same scale as Power 5 schools. Unless Boise and NIU make a jump to a bigger conference, they'll be on the outside looking in just like Ohio.
That's why the Memphis argument would have been so intriguing had they gone undefeated this season. Had they went 13-0 with a win over Ole Miss, Navy, Houston and Temple (x2) they technically should have been ranked higher than Alabama since Alabama lost to Ole Miss at home. Would they have been? Probably not.
Totally agree that Boise and NIU will realistically never play for a title.
But don't you think their appearances in those BCS games has had a positive affect on their programs?
You don't think nationally they're given a little more of a pass based on what they've done in the past?
If it was Boise and they finished 13-0 this year, you don't think they would have been given serious consideration for a spot? Probably more so that out-of-nowhere Memphis.
You aren't suddenly going to just show up on the national CFB landscape...but win your league and make a few NY6 bowl games....suddenly some doors that were previously shut will potentially open.
I'm not saying being in P5 leagues doesnt make it easier.....but if you can't be...being a consistent G5 powerhouse and going to NY6 games I think would have a pretty positive affect on your program.
It did for Boise...and for NIU. They're better for it.
And I would say, as unrealistic as it really still is, they're hopes for a national title are more realistic than other G5 schools with no history of playing in BCS bowl games.
But again, you're right....G5 teams have little to no hope of playing for a title...but they still have a place on the national landscape
It's a process..and one that could take 10+ years (i.e. Boise) but they've proven you can aspire to be at least in the conversation
Last Edited: 12/8/2015 5:56:13 PM by bshot44