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Topic: For those that don't think Ohio desperately needs to find multiple new QBs
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bshot44
12/21/2015 10:03 AM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
Different strategy, target 2016, defense wins championships. Ride that defensive front to their championship. Give them the best QB period, not one under development. Now we schedule a meeting with the 2016 seniors, you present your strategy, I will present mine. We will see who gets thrown under the bus. His initials might be C Money. I won't even help keep Sayles off you.

Man, you need therapy. Whatever it is that makes you so defensive about the slightest bit of criticism (or anything other than pollyannaism, even), it isn't healthy.


Here's the deal….I don't think we are going to win the MACC next year. I hope I'm wrong. I REALLY hope I'm wrong. But that's my opinion. And I think we will be in a better position to win it in 2017 if we can have solid QB play.

Again, that's an opinion. You don't have to subscribe to it. That's fine. Doesn't bother me. And I don't need to fantasize about big bad football players beating you up because you disagree with me.
I'm with CMoney on this one. Yes, dominant defense can win championships. However, defenses never win championships alone (and lets be honest-Ohio has a good defense but I wouldn't call it dominant); very good QB play is needed also.

In a championship season there will always be a time when the team is locked in a dead heat with the opponent, especially in the MACC game. In such a game the opponent probably has a very good defense also, so the deciding factor is often the QB-can he elevate his team, when the pressure's on, when the lights are at their brightest and the expectations are the greatest, can he put the team on his shoulders to win the game? Is Sprague that kind of QB? I sure don't see it.

Sure, I'd love to have a dominant defense. But the way football is played (and officiated) today, I'd much rather have the dominant QB.
Exactly. This isn't 1985....or 95 for that matter.

The game is tailored to the offense. Look at the four playoff teams....would you classify Clemson, Bama, Mich St or Okla as a defensive dominant team?

All have a game-changer on offense...most at QB

Clemson - Watson
Bama - Henry
Mich State - Cook
OU - Mayfield

To be a champion, you have to have some semblance of offensive firepower. Sprague is ill-equipped to drive the bus. We might have a RB that can be dominant, but with the OC/HC decision making of not have a feature back, we'll probably never know.

We were in MACC situations when we had a Kalvin McRae.....or a Tyler Tettleton (before he quit trying)......who's our offensive "stud" now?
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OU_Country
12/21/2015 10:53 AM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
This discussion just shows why I say it's time to get a good JC QB and develop him for two years out. The guys currently on the roster are NOT going to get us there.

That's pretty much where I am as well. Gotta find some way to be more effective, and more explosive on offense against good teams. The difference between 8 wins and 10-11 wins is the lack of an effective offense against the upper half of the MAC, and any other teams on our schedule. That's some combination of a new approach on offense, a new OC, QB coach, or new QBs, or other offensive players, whatever. There's no way Frank, his offensive staff, and Schaus should be able to look in the mirror and think that the status quo on offense will create better results next year with "fewer injuries" and "better execution". It's time to flip over the record that's skipping back to the same tune.
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allen
12/22/2015 1:42 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
This discussion just shows why I say it's time to get a good JC QB and develop him for two years out. The guys currently on the roster are NOT going to get us there.

That's pretty much where I am as well. Gotta find some way to be more effective, and more explosive on offense against good teams. The difference between 8 wins and 10-11 wins is the lack of an effective offense against the upper half of the MAC, and any other teams on our schedule. That's some combination of a new approach on offense, a new OC, QB coach, or new QBs, or other offensive players, whatever. There's no way Frank, his offensive staff, and Schaus should be able to look in the mirror and think that the status quo on offense will create better results next year with "fewer injuries" and "better execution". It's time to flip over the record that's skipping back to the same tune.


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GoCats105
12/22/2015 2:04 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Different strategy, target 2016, defense wins championships. Ride that defensive front to their championship. Give them the best QB period, not one under development. Now we schedule a meeting with the 2016 seniors, you present your strategy, I will present mine. We will see who gets thrown under the bus. His initials might be C Money. I won't even help keep Sayles off you.

Man, you need therapy. Whatever it is that makes you so defensive about the slightest bit of criticism (or anything other than pollyannaism, even), it isn't healthy.


Here's the deal….I don't think we are going to win the MACC next year. I hope I'm wrong. I REALLY hope I'm wrong. But that's my opinion. And I think we will be in a better position to win it in 2017 if we can have solid QB play.

Again, that's an opinion. You don't have to subscribe to it. That's fine. Doesn't bother me. And I don't need to fantasize about big bad football players beating you up because you disagree with me.
I'm with CMoney on this one. Yes, dominant defense can win championships. However, defenses never win championships alone (and lets be honest-Ohio has a good defense but I wouldn't call it dominant); very good QB play is needed also.

In a championship season there will always be a time when the team is locked in a dead heat with the opponent, especially in the MACC game. In such a game the opponent probably has a very good defense also, so the deciding factor is often the QB-can he elevate his team, when the pressure's on, when the lights are at their brightest and the expectations are the greatest, can he put the team on his shoulders to win the game? Is Sprague that kind of QB? I sure don't see it.

Sure, I'd love to have a dominant defense. But the way football is played (and officiated) today, I'd much rather have the dominant QB.
Exactly. This isn't 1985....or 95 for that matter.

The game is tailored to the offense. Look at the four playoff teams....would you classify Clemson, Bama, Mich St or Okla as a defensive dominant team?

All have a game-changer on offense...most at QB

Clemson - Watson
Bama - Henry
Mich State - Cook
OU - Mayfield

To be a champion, you have to have some semblance of offensive firepower. Sprague is ill-equipped to drive the bus. We might have a RB that can be dominant, but with the OC/HC decision making of not have a feature back, we'll probably never know.

We were in MACC situations when we had a Kalvin McRae.....or a Tyler Tettleton (before he quit trying)......who's our offensive "stud" now?
Even with the Alabama example, they didn't turn into a great team this year until Jake Coker started making plays. Why and how Cooper Bateman started the Ole Miss game which led to digging themselves out of a hole is one of the greatest mysteries of the 2015 season.
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