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C Money
4/11/2016 6:27 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
They went after this spring break practice as well. This will also be prohibited. You could see this coming almost as soon as he announced this was going to happen, and I posted the thread. And note, some conferences had already outlawed this practice.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solom...

http://www.koco.com/sports/ncaa-bans-satellite-football-c...

I read that as saying a rule probably will be passed regarding spring break practices but hasn't yet. (Probably because spring break is over but camp season is coming up…..)
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BillyTheCat
4/11/2016 7:22 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
They went after this spring break practice as well. This will also be prohibited. You could see this coming almost as soon as he announced this was going to happen, and I posted the thread. And note, some conferences had already outlawed this practice.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solom...

http://www.koco.com/sports/ncaa-bans-satellite-football-c...

I read that as saying a rule probably will be passed regarding spring break practices but hasn't yet. (Probably because spring break is over but camp season is coming up…..)
No, it was one big sweep, satellite camps, coaches working outside camps, and traveling road shows of spring football, all done away with in one day. Looks like some Big10 Coaches are having a lot of fun with this at Coach Harbaugh's expense.
Last Edited: 4/11/2016 7:23:24 PM by BillyTheCat
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OU_Country
4/12/2016 9:16 AM
Mike and Mike played a different side of this on their show this morning. Shutting down all of this includes stopping coaches from other schools from being able to see these camps, and therefore all of the kids that might have been seen at them by schools like Ohio, or Miami. Kids that weren't going to Ohio State, or Michigan, but could be offered by MAC schools, or FCS schools. On their show it was stated that this limits the exposure for a potential scholarship to kids that fit that situation. I don't pretend to know a ton about this, but it feels like a bunch of SEC coaches complaining about the mere potential of losing out on a few recruits.
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Ohio69
4/12/2016 9:48 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Mike and Mike played a different side of this on their show this morning. Shutting down all of this includes stopping coaches from other schools from being able to see these camps, and therefore all of the kids that might have been seen at them by schools like Ohio, or Miami. Kids that weren't going to Ohio State, or Michigan, but could be offered by MAC schools, or FCS schools. On their show it was stated that this limits the exposure for a potential scholarship to kids that fit that situation. I don't pretend to know a ton about this, but it feels like a bunch of SEC coaches complaining about the mere potential of losing out on a few recruits.
If this is true, Sherrod Brown and some senator from Michigan should go off on this big time. Threaten federal action against the NCAA unless his is immediately reversed. (They would look like heroes standing up for UM, OSU, and high school kids in both states.)
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OU_Country
4/12/2016 10:20 AM
I should also add, and I fully agree with, a second point discussed on their show making note of how quickly the NCAA managed to get this decision made when the SEC complained about it. Somehow though, when accusations of academic impropriety, or other more serious violations occurs at larger, probably money making schools, they take years to investigate it and make a decision.
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BillyTheCat
4/12/2016 12:00 PM
Well the NCAA just did the next absurd thing, Coaches now have unlimited texting capability to recruits, 24/7 as many as their fingers can type.
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OU_Country
4/12/2016 1:36 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Well the NCAA just did the next absurd thing, Coaches now have unlimited texting capability to recruits, 24/7 as many as their fingers can type.
They're really on a roll this week, aren't they?
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OhioCatFan
4/12/2016 4:04 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Well the NCAA just did the next absurd thing, Coaches now have unlimited texting capability to recruits, 24/7 as many as their fingers can type.
They're really on a roll this week, aren't they?
Meanwhile, back at UNC they continue to "play school" and the NCAA takes a very low profile.
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BillyTheCat
4/12/2016 4:34 PM
The NCAA can not dictate what North Carolina does with the academics at their school, and you know you don't want them getting into that.

However, we are, as a society, worshiping these athlete first on-line high schools with questionable academic standards who never see a traditional classroom.
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bornacatfan
4/17/2016 5:11 PM
If I understand this issue after listening and reading a few sources...the effort to keep Harbaugh from reaching "a new level of absurdity" resulted in hundreds of kids who could have gone to a camp where lots of smaller colleges could have seen them for one fee and on one day....now have to attend each school they are interested in individually and have to cough up the dough for each one and find time for each in their schedule co ordinating weekends and multiple camps. SOund right....may open up more scholly opportunities for well funded and well travelled prospects. Pretty much screws most of the kids at our local Boys Club and inner city youth leagues. ANyone have info to the contrary that it may actually help those kids?

That was pretty quick considering the UNC investigation and Kaminsky's 6th year decision.
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BillyTheCat
4/17/2016 8:52 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
If I understand this issue after listening and reading a few sources...the effort to keep Harbaugh from reaching "a new level of absurdity" resulted in hundreds of kids who could have gone to a camp where lots of smaller colleges could have seen them for one fee and on one day....now have to attend each school they are interested in individually and have to cough up the dough for each one and find time for each in their schedule co ordinating weekends and multiple camps. SOund right....may open up more scholly opportunities for well funded and well travelled prospects. Pretty much screws most of the kids at our local Boys Club and inner city youth leagues. ANyone have info to the contrary that it may actually help those kids?

That was pretty quick considering the UNC investigation and Kaminsky's 6th year decision.
It's the same disparity that football coaches deal with every year in comparison to basketball, summer camps were equivalent of AAU tournaments in the spring and summer where basketball coaches have always enjoyed a meet market of talent to evaluate and parents who are happy to glad hand. Basketball also has the ability to practice with a ball all spring and summer in Ohio where football is limited.

But yes, football players and their coaches are now going to have to put more work into getting recognized in the summers, and being creative in finding the money to sponsor kids to attend camps, much like AAU programs help cover the cost of their programs for the same type of kid.

I also may add that 7 on 7 style AAU events are becoming increasingly popular in many states and regions, as well as Spring practices, which Ohio just voted down, but we are putting 8-man football on the front burner.
Last Edited: 4/17/2016 9:43:17 PM by BillyTheCat
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