Kind of a funny story. My wife and I have been fairly generous when it comes to fundraising for the football program. I was told many times by an AD staffer that "Tim is so appreciative of your continued support. He really wants you to come down to Athens for lunch sometime or look you up when he comes to Columbus."

Since then I've introduced myself to him 2-3 times at Bobcat Club events, etc. Each time he responded, "I don't know the name. Have we met before?"

My wife periodically gets in a dig by calling me "Mr. Have We Met Before."

That’s exactly what happened with Albin.

Come on, man. Another possibility is that he's just a bad schmoozer, no? I'm perfectly willing to throw Albin under the bus - the one he got off of to save his sick doggie - but he definitely came across as a D-level speaker at the best of times.

You know, "taking your sick dog to the hospital" should replace "TOS to" for future coach opening discussions.

Goodness, you’d think charlotte was 0-12. Its wasn’t. If he can keep the nucleus of the team and if they really have 10x our NIL, they’ll do okay. They had 28 transfer in last year, many from p-4. If Albin can evaluate talent like last year, it may not be as ugly as some think. On the other hand , it could be like his first year here only for different reasons,

Ok, so I'm am believing 100% in how these negotiations happened, but explain to me like I’m five.

Albin, at some point, entered into negotiations and eventually was offered what, or close to, what he asked for prior to the title game. Yet, this is called disrespectful and late.

The question is: At what point would the final offer have not been disrespectful? One day earlier? A week? A month?

Just my opinion, but as the season went along and the team was getting hot…like it tended to do under Albin when it was healthy, I think that was the time to make contact. Say the Toledo game. Definitely Ball State.

Anyway, was the beginning of negotiations disrespectful, the end, or just the entire process?

This is stupid. Were 6 weeks removed from an absolute shitburger at Miami and 8 weeks removed from the entire defense literally quitting at Kentucky. If Albin thought he deserved a huge raise before the MAC Championship game, he's bonkers. Getting to the MAC Title game when the conference is less valuable than the Hawk Tuah coin is not a badge of honor. I'll fault Cromer and Gonzalez all day long for their faults, but not making a huge commitment to Albin when he wasn't putting a great product on the field for half the season is not something I'm going to lose sleep over. I think it's embarassing we let Charlotte think they are on (or above) our level, but other than that - time to move on and good riddance. I don't care whether the dog made it or didn't make it or whether Timmy stopped the bus in Upper Sandusky or Bucyrus. Go get the right Head Coach and start trying to improve the program. Just because we won the tallest midget contest doesn't make us a legitimate program.

No you offer the guy an extension before the MAC title game so if he wins the MAC the school picks up a larger buyout if he moves on. I get being Julie being initally cautious about TA as a backfill for Solich and after that 3-9 season but he was due with a 9-3 regular season and MACC berth. He didn't get anything after last season and he also didn't make the MACC.

Your scenario (9-3 regular season) implies a week-long negotiation. Was he disrespected the negotiations took a week, including Thanksgiving weekend? So let’s assume Monday to Friday? Would Thursday have been better to have received the final offer that met his demands? Or was that late, too? Or was there a longer timeline?

... If Albin thought he deserved a huge raise before the MAC Championship game, he's bonkers.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, though not one person here expected Ohio to even be in the title game. In the end, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that someone else believed he deserved a big raise, and gave it to him. Now we can move on. Only time can tell whether Cromer's decisions were good or not.


Could you tell me where that is? I have been able to find several posts that imply that the offer was made after the game, but none that imply that was made before the game:
1. Earlier in this thread SBH said "They ultimately did offer him a five-year deal at equivalent money. It was just too late.' That implies to me that the offer was made after Albin had already accepted the other offer. That implies after the game, or very shortly before it.
2. In the "Albin's post game press conference" thread, SBH says that he believes Tim didn't get the Ohio offer until after the press conference.
3. In the game thread, on page 6, bobcatsquared says "Word from the motor city is that TA has been or will be offered a raise to $1.1m/yr." That implies that the offer was being made because of the impressive win, and that it was not made prior to the game.

[QUOTE=Mike Coleman]...
Albin, at some point, entered into negotiations and eventually was offered what, or close to, what he asked for prior to the title game. Yet, this is called disrespectful and late.
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I had great experiences with Solich, including in the AD's booth at Kent State during Albin's second year. His wife was with us and was telling him what he could and could not eat. When she left to use the restroom, he had me watch the door so he could eat fistfuls of caramel corn.

Boals remembers peoples' names. Very approachable and appreciative of any support.