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Topic: Did Albin Return To Athens Last Night With Team? (NT)
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Deciduous Forest Cat
12/9/2024 4:13 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
Check out Eric Decker’s Twitter/X feed and you’ll see confirmation.

He also just absolutely torched him in an opinion piece - https://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/col...

This is coming from an Athens Messenger reporter who has spoken to Albin more than 99+% of this board and more importantly, I would bet he has had contact with the players.
That was an angry beat reporters article but it seemed to stop short of throwing Albin under the bus. But it seems that Albin could have pushed back on announcing anything before sunday and he did not. if he did and charlotte did it anyway, then they can choke on a big back of d**ks. Acting surprised and bailing on the team? sick dog? what an absurd soap opera.
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cbarber357
12/9/2024 4:24 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
Check out Eric Decker’s Twitter/X feed and you’ll see confirmation.

He also just absolutely torched him in an opinion piece - https://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/col...

This is coming from an Athens Messenger reporter who has spoken to Albin more than 99+% of this board and more importantly, I would bet he has had contact with the players.
That was an angry beat reporters article but it seemed to stop short of throwing Albin under the bus. But it seems that Albin could have pushed back on announcing anything before sunday and he did not. if he did and charlotte did it anyway, then they can choke on a big back of d**ks. Acting surprised and bailing on the team? sick dog? what an absurd soap opera.
Read his Twitter feed. He throws him under the bus.
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Rufusbobcat94
12/9/2024 4:28 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
Check out Eric Decker’s Twitter/X feed and you’ll see confirmation.

He also just absolutely torched him in an opinion piece - https://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/col...

This is coming from an Athens Messenger reporter who has spoken to Albin more than 99+% of this board and more importantly, I would bet he has had contact with the players.
Thanks for posting, i missed that article. I think a lot of it is on the money. Few people care that he left to the point of blaming him for that or not acknowledging his accomplishments but, as Albin said on day one in Charlotte, and Decker points out, Albin is all about accountability.

Also, the real thing is anyone can be overwhelmed to the point of making a bad choice but it looks like he is just gonna move on like the bad exit didn't happen.

I'm just glad the players won-at least they didn't have to deal with losing their coach two hours after a loss to their rivals and drive home with assistants trying to console them.

I don't want to hear him say three-to-six months from now that it could have happened better. It is meaningless then.

And thumbs down to that tone deaf Charlotte official who, in apparently trying to make the university look blameless for the timing debacle, mentioned something like they didn't announce it earlier out of respect for Ohio. Yeah, thanks for the whole 2 hours post-game to let the victory ending a 56-year drought to sink in. Couldn't wait one more day for this?

At the end i feel a bit sad for Albin too that after two decades and playing the perfect game to end the massive championship drought it ended like this. Whatever happened, I don't believe Albin though it would end like he did.
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Mike Coleman
12/9/2024 4:28 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
been pouring over all of these posts and it's amazing the anger (or fake internet outrage) that people have over coaches and players leaving. This is the environment we are in now. Faking outrage or having real outrage about this seems like a giant waste of energy.

I was in Detroit and the drive back to Cleveland was a breeze. Then I stop for a beer and see that Tim is gone. Did that take the shine off the MAC title? Maybe a little. But I was a student during the Lichtenberg era. This title is worth Tim leaving. I will never fault anybody for doing what is best for him/herself in this era of college athletics.

Live in the moment, celebrate the victories and remember that you are blessed to have attended or be a fan of Ohio University and not the other schools in Oxford, Columbus, Kent, etc.
You must have missed the rumors that Albin had them stop the bus and he got off to attend to a sick dog.

I'm still waiting for more info on this part of the saga. Does anybody know where this rumor started from? Player tweet or something?
Someone created a new account yesterday to say we don't know what he's going through. His dog was so sick he couldn't address the team or ride back to Athens - yet the entire family was drinking in a suite in Detroit and are all in Charlotte a day later.

Hope the dog is okay!

And others on here said he stopped to get cigarettes or milk or whatever, it’s crazy
That was me. I was making an old movie trope about someone's dad leaving. LOL

Told everyone he was going to the corner store to get cigarettes and never came home.
But did he seriously get off the bus? I truly think that is a huge detail that greatly changes my outlook on the guy.
Check out Eric Decker’s Twitter/X feed and you’ll see confirmation.

He also just absolutely torched him in an opinion piece - https://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/col...

This is coming from an Athens Messenger reporter who has spoken to Albin more than 99+% of this board and more importantly, I would bet he has had contact with the players.
That was an angry beat reporters article but it seemed to stop short of throwing Albin under the bus. But it seems that Albin could have pushed back on announcing anything before sunday and he did not. if he did and charlotte did it anyway, then they can choke on a big back of d**ks. Acting surprised and bailing on the team? sick dog? what an absurd soap opera.
Gotta leak it Saturday early enough to get it on the crawl of the SEC championship game. Screw all the kids on the busses. Losers.
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shabamon
12/9/2024 4:33 PM
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
12/9/2024 4:37 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
so basically, charlotte leaked it.
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GoCats105
12/9/2024 4:38 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
"To be nice" good lord that sounds like a junior high school break up. What a bunch of babies.
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RufusCat09
12/9/2024 4:47 PM
Stupid question, but does any one know if Albin actually addressed or spoke to the team prior to leaving for Charlotte?
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mid70sbobcat
12/9/2024 4:50 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
I guess the "fumble of epic proportions" can be our turnover for the game, so we finish the year with a TO in every game played to date!!

He seemed very uneasy at the Charlotte presser, and when asked about leaving Ohio by one reporter, he looked like he had mixed emotions on this entire process.

Biggest advantage in Charlotte over Athens is NIL $$$.
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GoCats105
12/9/2024 4:54 PM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
Biggest advantage in Charlotte over Athens is NIL $$$.
This is just code for big city. Big city does not equal NIL $$$ if your program doesn't have a voice. The potential might be there, but any coaching insider will tell you this is a project, full stop. He's going to have to build that foundation with a lot of help. Essentially, he's going to have to do what Frank did here.
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Mike Coleman
12/9/2024 5:06 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
"To be nice" good lord that sounds like a junior high school break up. What a bunch of babies.
It was a paraphrase. Sorry.
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Mike Coleman
12/9/2024 5:06 PM
RufusCat09 wrote:expand_more
Stupid question, but does any one know if Albin actually addressed or spoke to the team prior to leaving for Charlotte?
Yes. On Sunday.
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GoCats105
12/9/2024 5:11 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
"To be nice" good lord that sounds like a junior high school break up. What a bunch of babies.
It was a paraphrase. Sorry.
No apologies necessary, because I'm sure there is some truth to that.
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mid70sbobcat
12/9/2024 5:12 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
Biggest advantage in Charlotte over Athens is NIL $$$.
This is just code for big city. Big city does not equal NIL $$$ if your program doesn't have a voice. The potential might be there, but any coaching insider will tell you this is a project, full stop. He's going to have to build that foundation with a lot of help. Essentially, he's going to have to do what Frank did here.
I thought I heard it, or it was implied, he may have 10 times the NIL $$ he had in Athens. I could be wrong. But yeah, he has a challenge there.
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cbarber357
12/9/2024 5:14 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
Biggest advantage in Charlotte over Athens is NIL $$$.
This is just code for big city. Big city does not equal NIL $$$ if your program doesn't have a voice. The potential might be there, but any coaching insider will tell you this is a project, full stop. He's going to have to build that foundation with a lot of help. Essentially, he's going to have to do what Frank did here.
They share a city with an NFL team and other pro sports, UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Appy State, and ECU are all in state with established fan bases, and Charlotte really isn’t very far from South Carolina and Columbia. Going to be a HUGE uphill battle to get relevant there. OU arguably only has Ohio State and Cincinnati ahead of them in state and honestly I don’t know of any big Cincinnati fans outside of that city. I imagine Charlotte’s ceiling way down the road is something a step or two below what UC is now.
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Mike Coleman
12/9/2024 6:22 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
Espn announced what Charlotte leaked. Why in the world would Albin leak the info? It definitely didn't play into his favor with the team on the bus. One text, from an All Conference player, used the word “betrayed.” I'm sure things have cooled down, and there was a team meeting, but he has his work cut out with a lot of those guys. We have a lot of special team leaders who held it all together, and Albin deserves credit for that, yes, but those are complicated emotions. Charlotte, in the meantime, was losing players and needed an announcement asap to slow the tide. 100% this was info from Charlotte to ESPN.
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cbarber357
12/9/2024 6:34 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
Espn announced what Charlotte leaked. Why in the world would Albin leak the info? It definitely didn't play into his favor with the team on the bus. One text, from an All Conference player, used the word “betrayed.” I'm sure things have cooled down, and there was a team meeting, but he has his work cut out with a lot of those guys. We have a lot of special team leaders who held it all together, and Albin deserves credit for that, yes, but those are complicated emotions. Charlotte, in the meantime, was losing players and needed an announcement asap to slow the tide. 100% this was info from Charlotte to ESPN.
If his reasons for leaving involved butting heads with administrators as some on here have speculated, sounds like he’s off to a great start with the new leadership!

Does anyone at Charlotte think waiting until the early hours of Sunday morning would have stopped any kids from hitting the portal? It didn’t technically open until today.
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Victory
12/9/2024 7:59 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
Espn announced what Charlotte leaked. Why in the world would Albin leak the info? It definitely didn't play into his favor with the team on the bus. One text, from an All Conference player, used the word “betrayed.” I'm sure things have cooled down, and there was a team meeting, but he has his work cut out with a lot of those guys. We have a lot of special team leaders who held it all together, and Albin deserves credit for that, yes, but those are complicated emotions. Charlotte, in the meantime, was losing players and needed an announcement asap to slow the tide. 100% this was info from Charlotte to ESPN.
If his reasons for leaving involved butting heads with administrators as some on here have speculated, sounds like he’s off to a great start with the new leadership!

Does anyone at Charlotte think waiting until the early hours of Sunday morning would have stopped any kids from hitting the portal? It didn’t technically open until today.
I would not be shocked if guy who caused Albin all the immediate problems in the new job was the same Charlotte guy who came here to gloat. The Charlotte fan that had decorum obviously knew this guy's schtick. There was a poster with a similar name telling everyone it was a done deal well before the leak. Stupid is as stupid does.
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greencat
12/9/2024 8:16 PM
cbarber357 wrote:expand_more
In addition, the Charlotte AD stated today Albin agreed to the deal before the MAC title game, and they waited til after the game to announce to be nice. He gave so many kids so much public crap last year for transferring out prior to the bowl game yet did the same.

I’ve never meet ANYONE who knows Tim Albin and his family that doesn’t think they are absolutely wonderful people. But the way this went down was a fumble of epic proportions.
Biggest advantage in Charlotte over Athens is NIL $$$.
This is just code for big city. Big city does not equal NIL $$$ if your program doesn't have a voice. The potential might be there, but any coaching insider will tell you this is a project, full stop. He's going to have to build that foundation with a lot of help. Essentially, he's going to have to do what Frank did here.
They share a city with an NFL team and other pro sports, UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Appy State, and ECU are all in state with established fan bases, and Charlotte really isn’t very far from South Carolina and Columbia. Going to be a HUGE uphill battle to get relevant there. OU arguably only has Ohio State and =Cincinnati ahead of them in state and honestly I don’t know of any big Cincinnati fans outside of that city. I imagine Charlotte’s ceiling way down the road is something a step or two below what UC is now.
And Clemson is a 2 hour drive from Charlotte.

I hear they play football.
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GoCats105
12/9/2024 9:56 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
Espn announced what Charlotte leaked. Why in the world would Albin leak the info? It definitely didn't play into his favor with the team on the bus. One text, from an All Conference player, used the word “betrayed.” I'm sure things have cooled down, and there was a team meeting, but he has his work cut out with a lot of those guys. We have a lot of special team leaders who held it all together, and Albin deserves credit for that, yes, but those are complicated emotions. Charlotte, in the meantime, was losing players and needed an announcement asap to slow the tide. 100% this was info from Charlotte to ESPN.
From what I've heard and read into, the Charlotte coaching search was a mess from the beginning. Multiple hands in play and nobody knew who was really in charge. Add all that up and you're bound to get some information leaked to the press.
Last Edited: 12/9/2024 9:57:31 PM by GoCats105
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OhioCatFan
12/10/2024 11:05 AM
From what we know, which isn't everything, this has all the hallmarks of a rash decision made in anger that will likely be regretted in the future, if not already.
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SBH
12/10/2024 11:23 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=shabamon] I don't see where Charlotte or Albin announced anything on Saturday. "Sources" leaked the story.
From what I've heard and read into, the Charlotte coaching search was a mess from the beginning. Multiple hands in play and nobody knew who was really in charge. Add all that up and you're bound to get some information leaked to the press.
It might have been a mess, but they got a heck of a coach.
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Andrew Ruck
12/10/2024 11:23 AM
Does anyone have the exact quotes Albin made cooking the players for entering the portal before the bowl game? I would really love to juxtapose it with the recent happenings here but I want to make sure I have his exact sentiments.
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Valley Cat
12/10/2024 11:58 AM
Did he get bad advice or was he just not valued? TOUgh to say but there has to be a myriad of stories about this timeline and what really happened.
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