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Mike Johnson
8/9/2016 10:27 AM
Kinggeorge4 wrote:expand_more
I believe almost every school parks fans via a donation system. But in Athens we should be first come first serve because our fans do not want to donate? The system is simple, pony up a little money to park where you want to be. Bring your grill and beer. OFC, the Peden lot is more than $700. I think Alan is closer to the correct amount.
A pass for the Peden lot has been at the Captain's level - and has increased a couple times, as I think it is set to again for the new fiscal year. I tend to think that many if not most who pay the tariff view it as much as a contribution to Alma Mater as a parking fee.
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Kinggeorge4
8/9/2016 10:38 AM
They have been increasing the lower to mid levels the last couple of years. I believe the minimum for the Captain level is $900. The parking pass for a donation was nice since we never had much of a donation requirement before.
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OhioCatFan
8/9/2016 11:59 AM
Captain level is $750 for this year, it'll be $900 minimum for next year. So, I guess we are both right, Alan.

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http://www.ohiobobcatclub.com/membership-benefits/members... /
Last Edited: 8/9/2016 12:10:55 PM by OhioCatFan
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C Money
8/9/2016 12:32 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Michigan State's tailgating is, well, sprawled - through neighborhoods surrounding the campus. Nothing picturesque or otherwise engaging.
You mean Michigan Staee?
http://mgoblog.com/sites/mgoblog.com/files/fake_D382/stae...
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OU_Country
8/9/2016 1:27 PM
Kinggeorge4 wrote:expand_more
I believe almost every school parks fans via a donation system. But in Athens we should be first come first serve because our fans do not want to donate? The system is simple, pony up a little money to park where you want to be. Bring your grill and beer. OFC, the Peden lot is more than $700. I think Alan is closer to the correct amount.

I'd just like the opportunity to buy a second football parking pass for the purpose of tailgating. Has anyone ever tried to do that?
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Kinggeorge4
8/9/2016 1:49 PM
Were you wanting two spaces? Not sure if you can. If friends join us, they park at Clippinger or Morton and follow the sidewalk to Walter.
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OUcats82
8/9/2016 2:24 PM
C Money wrote:expand_more
Michigan State's tailgating is, well, sprawled - through neighborhoods surrounding the campus. Nothing picturesque or otherwise engaging.
You mean Michigan Staee?
http://mgoblog.com/sites/mgoblog.com/files/fake_D382/stae...
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
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OU_Country
8/9/2016 3:39 PM
Kinggeorge4 wrote:expand_more
Were you wanting two spaces? Not sure if you can. If friends join us, they park at Clippinger or Morton and follow the sidewalk to Walter.
It's not necessary, but it would be helpful for those occasions when we bring so much crap for tailgating that it either a) requires the truck, or b) eliminates seats in the car because they end up folded down. That really only happens for the home openers, Marshall/Miami, and Homecoming.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
8/9/2016 5:16 PM
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.
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OhioCatFan
8/9/2016 11:57 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
OK, let's be specific here. We are talking about Morrill Act Land Grant schools here. OHIO is a land grant school. In fact, OHIO is the very first land grant school. OHIO was authorized as part of the Ohio Company's contract with the Confederation Congress (Congress under the Articles of Confederation). The contract specified two township in the center of the purchase for "an university." The rent on that land was to finance the university. It's a long story, but Athens and Alexander Townships (the two specified townships) did not produce enough revenue from the rental fees, and the University had trouble raising the fees. In the end, OHIO sold most of the land (illegally according to some scholars, because Congressional approval was not received), and finally started to receive regular state appropriations, in large part due to action of a speaker of the Ohio House who was from Athens. This occurred in the later part of the 19th Century. The name of the speaker was David L. Sleeper, and the bill that started regular appropriations for OHIO was called, believe it or not, "the Sleeper Bill." Many have recognized OHIO as the first land grant college. A book that called "Famous First Facts" (ISBN-10: 0824209303) states this in no uncertain terms. My own research, years ago, of Confederation Congress documents confirms this as well.
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Monroe Slavin
8/10/2016 1:40 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
OK, let's be specific here. We are talking about Morrill Act Land Grant schools here. OHIO is a land grant school. In fact, OHIO is the very first land grant school. OHIO was authorized as part of the Ohio Company's contract with the Confederation Congress (Congress under the Articles of Confederation). The contract specified two township in the center of the purchase for "an university." The rent on that land was to finance the university. It's a long story, but Athens and Alexander Townships (the two specified townships) did not produce enough revenue from the rental fees, and the University had trouble raising the fees. In the end, OHIO sold most of the land (illegally according to some scholars, because Congressional approval was not received), and finally started to receive regular state appropriations, in large part due to action of a speaker of the Ohio House who was from Athens. This occurred in the later part of the 19th Century. The name of the speaker was David L. Sleeper, and the bill that started regular appropriations for OHIO was called, believe it or not, "the Sleeper Bill." Many have recognized OHIO as the first land grant college. A book that called "Famous First Facts" (ISBN-10: 0824209303) states this in no uncertain terms. My own research, years ago, of Confederation Congress documents confirms this as well.
So, those fees that were to be raised were parking fees?
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OU_Country
8/10/2016 10:24 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.

Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.
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The Situation
8/10/2016 11:16 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.

Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.
And then have the alumni associations across the country offer weekend RV rental packages out of Columbus.

Now the alumni who have avoided the year in advance commitment have another way to play.
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OhioCatFan
8/10/2016 11:18 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
OK, let's be specific here. We are talking about Morrill Act Land Grant schools here. OHIO is a land grant school. In fact, OHIO is the very first land grant school. OHIO was authorized as part of the Ohio Company's contract with the Confederation Congress (Congress under the Articles of Confederation). The contract specified two township in the center of the purchase for "an university." The rent on that land was to finance the university. It's a long story, but Athens and Alexander Townships (the two specified townships) did not produce enough revenue from the rental fees, and the University had trouble raising the fees. In the end, OHIO sold most of the land (illegally according to some scholars, because Congressional approval was not received), and finally started to receive regular state appropriations, in large part due to action of a speaker of the Ohio House who was from Athens. This occurred in the later part of the 19th Century. The name of the speaker was David L. Sleeper, and the bill that started regular appropriations for OHIO was called, believe it or not, "the Sleeper Bill." Many have recognized OHIO as the first land grant college. A book that called "Famous First Facts" (ISBN-10: 0824209303) states this in no uncertain terms. My own research, years ago, of Confederation Congress documents confirms this as well.
So, those fees that were to be raised were parking fees?
Trying to bring the thread back on track and stop thread drift, eh? Seems like a strange role for you. ;-)
Last Edited: 8/10/2016 12:05:55 PM by OhioCatFan
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TWT
8/10/2016 10:59 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.

Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.
I thought of this 10 years ago. RVs aren't subject to the OUPD tight monitoring at the fairgrounds. There is a grocery store on that side of town to reload on Ice or charcoal. The price should be at least $50 for an RV with local hotels charging $100-$200 a night during football season. That's why the department thinks they can get away with $75.
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joefromperry
8/11/2016 9:16 AM
If there are no hookups (electric, water) provided, the cost should not be more than maybe $25-$30 per night. As to how many RVs might attend any home game, I'd guess less than half a dozen, except for special games like Homecoming.
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OU_Country
8/11/2016 10:33 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.

Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.
And then have the alumni associations across the country offer weekend RV rental packages out of Columbus.

Now the alumni who have avoided the year in advance commitment have another way to play.

I like the idea, but you're thinking way outside their box! For me, Homecoming has become a day trip, simply because I'm no longer willing to drop $200+ per night for an average room to be in town on the most crowded weekend a year. If the RV were an option, I might reconsider. Another option with regard to the RV situation would be to convince the state to upgrade the facilities at Stroud's Run campground to include electric sites and a shower house/real bathroom. If you're up for a drive, Burr Oak State Park is a viable option as well.
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Ted Thompson
8/11/2016 11:03 AM

OU_Country wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.



Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.


And then have the alumni associations across the country offer weekend RV rental packages out of Columbus.

Now the alumni who have avoided the year in advance commitment have another way to play.



I like the idea, but you're thinking way outside their box! For me, Homecoming has become a day trip, simply because I'm no longer willing to drop $200+ per night for an average room to be in town on the most crowded weekend a year. If the RV were an option, I might reconsider. Another option with regard to the RV situation would be to convince the state to upgrade the facilities at Stroud's Run campground to include electric sites and a shower house/real bathroom. If you're up for a drive, Burr Oak State Park is a viable option as well.


 

My 8-year-old son loves to camp. Lake Snowden (http://lakesnowden.com/) has worked great for us, especially the night games. Don't have to drive back late at night. Have breakfast at the DIner and hit Hocking Hills for a quick hike on the way home.

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OU_Country
8/11/2016 12:46 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Ted. I've never been out there before. For Tent camping, Burr Oak has some outstanding sites. For RVs, they're a little close together for my liking.
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Ohio69
8/12/2016 8:52 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
You know, I always thought it would have been a heckuva deal to get the fairgrounds involved in RV Parking or something. Figured they wouldn't need to do it for much and not only that would help with traffic flow around the stadium if they came from The Plains.

Getting them involved over homecoming, and offering a shuttle bus to and from every 15 mins would be an OUTSTANDING idea that should really be looked into by both Athletics and the University in general.
And then have the alumni associations across the country offer weekend RV rental packages out of Columbus.

Now the alumni who have avoided the year in advance commitment have another way to play.

Some random thoughts:
- While I think RVs should be closer, I disagree with anyone who thinks there is a large contingent of underserved OU Alum RV owning football fans. Let's not overstate things.
- I'd wager a few Firefly Amber Ales that there is a Homeland Security advisory about moving RV's as far away from crowds/stadiums as possible at college games.
- I think the back corner of the Walter/Swimming parking lot could be a workable RV area. Or, over by the hideous tennis courts circus tent. (Darn that Bob Glidden and his circus tent!)
- Running parking has to be the worst job on college campuses.
- Has that darn Bob Glidden circus tent been up long enough for the Athens historical society to pitch a fit if it is torn down? Gotta be getting close.
Last Edited: 8/12/2016 8:55:08 AM by Ohio69
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OUcats82
8/12/2016 10:34 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
OK, let's be specific here. We are talking about Morrill Act Land Grant schools here. OHIO is a land grant school. In fact, OHIO is the very first land grant school. OHIO was authorized as part of the Ohio Company's contract with the Confederation Congress (Congress under the Articles of Confederation). The contract specified two township in the center of the purchase for "an university." The rent on that land was to finance the university. It's a long story, but Athens and Alexander Townships (the two specified townships) did not produce enough revenue from the rental fees, and the University had trouble raising the fees. In the end, OHIO sold most of the land (illegally according to some scholars, because Congressional approval was not received), and finally started to receive regular state appropriations, in large part due to action of a speaker of the Ohio House who was from Athens. This occurred in the later part of the 19th Century. The name of the speaker was David L. Sleeper, and the bill that started regular appropriations for OHIO was called, believe it or not, "the Sleeper Bill." Many have recognized OHIO as the first land grant college. A book that called "Famous First Facts" (ISBN-10: 0824209303) states this in no uncertain terms. My own research, years ago, of Confederation Congress documents confirms this as well.
I think you have forgotten more about Ohio history than I could ever hope to learn! I took two Ohio history courses at our venerable university and never was taught that chapter you shared. Did you contribute any material to the bicentennial book? I have only been able to skim through it a few times since getting it for Christmas the year it was printed-need to get it out and go through it again!
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OhioCatFan
8/12/2016 11:09 AM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
Try to keep your expectations low for those associated with and/or educated at land-grant schools ;)
OK, let's be specific here. We are talking about Morrill Act Land Grant schools here. OHIO is a land grant school. In fact, OHIO is the very first land grant school. OHIO was authorized as part of the Ohio Company's contract with the Confederation Congress (Congress under the Articles of Confederation). The contract specified two township in the center of the purchase for "an university." The rent on that land was to finance the university. It's a long story, but Athens and Alexander Townships (the two specified townships) did not produce enough revenue from the rental fees, and the University had trouble raising the fees. In the end, OHIO sold most of the land (illegally according to some scholars, because Congressional approval was not received), and finally started to receive regular state appropriations, in large part due to action of a speaker of the Ohio House who was from Athens. This occurred in the later part of the 19th Century. The name of the speaker was David L. Sleeper, and the bill that started regular appropriations for OHIO was called, believe it or not, "the Sleeper Bill." Many have recognized OHIO as the first land grant college. A book that called "Famous First Facts" (ISBN-10: 0824209303) states this in no uncertain terms. My own research, years ago, of Confederation Congress documents confirms this as well.
I think you have forgotten more about Ohio history than I could ever hope to learn! I took two Ohio history courses at our venerable university and never was taught that chapter you shared. Did you contribute any material to the bicentennial book? I have only been able to skim through it a few times since getting it for Christmas the year it was printed-need to get it out and go through it again!
I was on the board of the Athens County Historical Society and Museum for a number of years. That august organization recently changed its name and its mission and is now the Southeastern Ohio History Center. I did not contribute to the book you mentioned, but I did contribute several chapters to a book on the medical history of Athens County a few years ago. The primary author and editor of that book was Gary Cordingley, M.D., a local neurologist.
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