Don't forget just having a 3rd and 3(or was it 2) in OT and just needing a TD to end it and we fail miserably.

For a moment I thought I had been transported back in time and we were playing Knorr ball, or better yet, Lichty ball.

There are some positives, the team did keep fighting. They just made way too many mistakes.

In college football, one way fans often go very wrong is by concluding too much from a mistake-riddled game 1. Let's see a few more games. Texas State did not look terrible to me, I think they're going to win some games.

Ohio definitely has athletes. In terms of raw talent this is as good a squad as I've seen from a Solich Ohio team. Today, they just weren't anything close to sharp enough.

All the goals are still available. So, no excuse for the team to stop fighting. Let's see what they show us.

I'd normally agree with this and will probably step back off the ledge by tomorrow. But cmon. Ohio was the clear favorite in this game. It's hard not to be upset about this.

If the few specifics in the initial posts in this thread bother you, wait until I get around to my long list--you'll really be bothered....it'll be, BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!


It's true. Today was one game and we can turn the season around.

But you have to be worried after today.


Let me disabuse, knock you off one assertion: We do not have much talent. We've shown that year after year. Beside Poling, who wasn't remarkable today, no one game after game is a stud.

You are delusional if you think that our talent is much in the way of pretty darn good.


Just tell me today...or pick some games (more than one)from the past few years...in which one guy just kept making plays, kept getting it done.



There's a reason we don't have guys voted to the top of the All-MAC teams.

Knorr also gave up the same amount of points resulting in the same result. The name of the game is to out-score your opponents. Unfortunately, you kind of have to stop the opposing team too.

For those of us old enough to remember Coach Lichtenberg and Coach Knorr, I would much rather prefer Coach Lichtenberg, for a variety of reasons. However it is somewhat akin to saying would you rather be the 102nd best team or the 117th best team in the nation.

It seems to me a few years back the powers that be at Ohio decided, unlike the Toledo's and the Western Michigan's of the world, they were not going to enter the MAC football arms race. We have let it be known during recruiting season that we will never pull out all the stops to recruit talent we don't believe we will ever get. Some of the top recruits at Toledo and Western Michigan would probably never consider coming to Athens.

Although we are perhaps the most rural school in the MAC as far as media markets go, we have the history and attendance that most MAC schools envy. It doesn't have to be this way, but perhaps some at the top think this is as good as it gets for football. I sure hope not, but sometimes I wonder. The coaching staff is doing a good job with little talent, but why not recruit better talent? It is like someone complaining that the pizza place they go to is the worst in the town, never stopping to think if they paid a buck or two more, the pizza place down the street would be an oh so much better alternative. We have the history, tradition and attendance to shoot for better talent.

Recruiting threads haven't had a new post about progress made re recruits for what seems like months. Total silence.

11+ years of this recruiting staff, with the last 3.5 or so years being not good, filled with crashing losses.

But, sure, years 12 and onward are going to change, going to be markedly better.

What premier high school QB in his right mind would want to play for Tim Albin and Scott Ipshording?

Ha-none!

It is always gut-wrenching for me when a program seems to graduate a great QB and then doesn't seem to miss a beat with next man up. I know Western Kentucky had a great QB graduate last year. What does the next guy up do? Throw for 500+ yards in his first game.

Well there are the two that have already committed for 2017. If they were watching they saw a Windham throw for 380, hand off to backs who tallied 260, work behind an OL that allowed 0 sacks and participate in 791 all-purpose yards.

Choking, lol