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SWBC
10/27/2016 9:05 AM
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Toledo can be had thru the air. They're tenth in the MAC in pass defense in conference-only games, and have only three sacks in three MAC games. The haven't shown much of a pass rush in conference games.
Toledo's D has ranged from excellent to questionable. The Rockets surrendered only 3 pts to Maine, 10 to Ark State, 17 to both Fresno State and Central Michigan, 20 to EMU but 35 to BG and 55 to BYU. FEELS like Ohio will have to play as well defensively as at TN and better offensively than against anyone except possibly Kansas.
Right, their offense is unquestionably good, but the defense hasn't always played great. Giving up 35 to BG this year is not good, though BG has improved since earlier. Giving up 55 to anyone is not good. If Ohio's offense and defense are both on top of their games, it could be close. That doesn't mean Ohio has to score 40 points or that Ohio has to hold a great offense to 10. They just have to be good on both sides. If even one struggles, it could get ugly.
I feel like the frustrating thing about watching Ohio this year has been knowing we have most of the pieces but haven't been able to put it all together. With Maxwell making his second start and taking the starter reps for a second, albeit abbreviated, week in a row, I expect to see more improvement and maybe the game will "slow down" a bit for him. I favor his crisp play and believe his pre-snap reads are a bit better than Windham's. He just needs to be more consistent in his passing and that will come as he is more in tune with his receivers. Windham has the advantage eluding rushers as I think he has a quicker first step and is better at sensing pressure but Maxwell gets rid of the ball much quicker. Brown, Irons, and White are all very good backs and the receiving core has some playmakers beyond Smith. We even have both tight ends catching passes this year. We haven't seen that since 2013. Now we just need to have the O-line step up and Maxwell to play to his potential.

On defense I believe our pass rush will be relentless and I'm hoping Burrow will dial up some well-timed blitzes. Our secondary needs to step up. They've played 8 games so we can't really continue to say "inexperienced" but I realize this is a tall order to fill against Woodside. However, I don't think Toledo has faced a defense as good as Ohio's yet this season.

What no one has brought up (unless I missed it) is the insider info we could have with the much maligned "Izzy". Wasn't he just at Toledo? Didn't he recruit several of these players? I wonder how much of a difference having Coach George made in Texas State's game plan? I don't know if anyone noticed Ohio had to use the "cheater" wrist bands with plays on them and go old school with players bringing in the play rather than signalling from the sidelines. I know this caused a few issues during the game.

I'll be at the game tonight and believe OUr Bobcats will surprise Toledo and have a breakthrough game as we see all of the pieces come together and the team's full potential realized.

Go Bobcats
Last Edited: 10/27/2016 9:27:52 AM by SWBC
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Scott Woods
10/27/2016 9:40 AM
It seems we've played to the level of our competition this year. I'm hoping the same happens tonight and we are somehow able to pull it off. We've won a MAC Championship more recently than we've won at Toledo.
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Pataskala
10/27/2016 11:23 AM
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How would recruits know this is Coach's last year but word would not have otherwise gotten out to anyone else?

Would our recruiting staff tell recruits that Solich was leaving? That the head man is on the way out would be absolutely the last thing that you'd tell a recruit if you wanted him to come to your school--what recruit would buy into an uncertain situation?

Since I started the speculation, my guess would be the rumors would come from other schools' coaches and/or our own players. The only way I see our own coaches spreading those rumors would be if they had their next job lined up and are really recruiting for the new school. I don't think that is happening here.

But something is definitely going on with recruiting, and there is a definite tension between coaching and current and recently departed players.

Word gets around about Solich nearing the end of his contract. Plus every time we're on TV the announcers mention Solich's age, so it's gotta sink in that he might be thinking about retirement. Hell, I've been getting the "when" question for the past five years, and I'm only 65.
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Bobcat1998
10/27/2016 2:09 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
How would recruits know this is Coach's last year but word would not have otherwise gotten out to anyone else?

Would our recruiting staff tell recruits that Solich was leaving? That the head man is on the way out would be absolutely the last thing that you'd tell a recruit if you wanted him to come to your school--what recruit would buy into an uncertain situation?

Since I started the speculation, my guess would be the rumors would come from other schools' coaches and/or our own players. The only way I see our own coaches spreading those rumors would be if they had their next job lined up and are really recruiting for the new school. I don't think that is happening here.

But something is definitely going on with recruiting, and there is a definite tension between coaching and current and recently departed players.

Word gets around about Solich nearing the end of his contract. Plus every time we're on TV the announcers mention Solich's age, so it's gotta sink in that he might be thinking about retirement. Hell, I've been getting the "when" question for the past five years, and I'm only 65.
And Frank deserves a solid sendoff but I would like to not waste any more years. Next year we will have four running backs who could start for any team in the MAC. We will have Cope back with Belack and Ball. We will have our TE and 3 linemen back. 2 of 3 LBs, pretty much all DB's and 3 solid linemen on the defensive side. We need to get young blood!
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L.C.
10/27/2016 2:35 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Word gets around about Solich nearing the end of his contract. Plus every time we're on TV the announcers mention Solich's age, so it's gotta sink in that he might be thinking about retirement. Hell, I've been getting the "when" question for the past five years, and I'm only 65.

I don't see this as any different than any other MAC coach. Unless a player signs on with a a coach in his first year or two, there is a very good chance his coach will be gone in a year or two. The average life of a MAC coach seems to be about 3 years.
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bobcatsquared
10/27/2016 3:24 PM
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Next year we will have four running backs who could start for any team in the MAC. We will have Cope back with Belack and Ball.
C'mon. We don't have 1 RB that would start for one team in the MAC (WMU), let alone 4 RB that would start for any team in the MAC. And what has Cope done other than impress one old-timer on here a couple of years ago enough to be anointed a future All-MAC performer and NFL draftee.
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CA Bobcat
10/27/2016 3:31 PM
SWBC wrote:expand_more
What no one has brought up (unless I missed it) is the insider info we could have with the much maligned "Izzy". Wasn't he just at Toledo? Didn't he recruit several of these players? I wonder how much of a difference having Coach George made in Texas State's game plan? I don't know if anyone noticed Ohio had to use the "cheater" wrist bands with plays on them and go old school with players bringing in the play rather than signalling from the sidelines. I know this caused a few issues during the game.

I'll be at the game tonight and believe OUr Bobcats will surprise Toledo and have a breakthrough game as we see all of the pieces come together and the team's full potential realized.

Go Bobcats
I'm also shocked no one brought this major detail up on this board. I brought a friend (former college football player and X's and O's wiz) to the Texas State game with me and he kept commenting how it felt like Texas State knew what we were going to do. I didn't say anything about George going there until after the game and he was not surprised at all, especially with the wrist bands we had never used before. Hopefully we can use whatever insider information we have to our advantage tonight.
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Bobcat110
10/27/2016 3:53 PM
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TV: CBS Sports Network
CBS? Ugh...the game won't be over until after midnight.


If I were in Vegas, I'd take Toledo -17.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
10/27/2016 4:29 PM
CA Bobcat wrote:expand_more
What no one has brought up (unless I missed it) is the insider info we could have with the much maligned "Izzy". Wasn't he just at Toledo? Didn't he recruit several of these players? I wonder how much of a difference having Coach George made in Texas State's game plan? I don't know if anyone noticed Ohio had to use the "cheater" wrist bands with plays on them and go old school with players bringing in the play rather than signalling from the sidelines. I know this caused a few issues during the game.

I'll be at the game tonight and believe OUr Bobcats will surprise Toledo and have a breakthrough game as we see all of the pieces come together and the team's full potential realized.

Go Bobcats
I'm also shocked no one brought this major detail up on this board. I brought a friend (former college football player and X's and O's wiz) to the Texas State game with me and he kept commenting how it felt like Texas State knew what we were going to do. I didn't say anything about George going there until after the game and he was not surprised at all, especially with the wrist bands we had never used before. Hopefully we can use whatever insider information we have to our advantage tonight.
I think a coach being only a few months removed from a program is a lot different than Izzy coming here three years ago under a different Toledo HC. I'm thinking zero effect.
Last Edited: 10/27/2016 4:30:10 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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Deciduous Forest Cat
10/27/2016 4:31 PM
ok, pissing and moaning over. Go CATS! Get a signature win in Conference tonight!
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colobobcat66
10/27/2016 5:13 PM
CA Bobcat wrote:expand_more
What no one has brought up (unless I missed it) is the insider info we could have with the much maligned "Izzy". Wasn't he just at Toledo? Didn't he recruit several of these players? I wonder how much of a difference having Coach George made in Texas State's game plan? I don't know if anyone noticed Ohio had to use the "cheater" wrist bands with plays on them and go old school with players bringing in the play rather than signalling from the sidelines. I know this caused a few issues during the game.

I'll be at the game tonight and believe OUr Bobcats will surprise Toledo and have a breakthrough game as we see all of the pieces come together and the team's full potential realized.

Go Bobcats
I'm also shocked no one brought this major detail up on this board. I brought a friend (former college football player and X's and O's wiz) to the Texas State game with me and he kept commenting how it felt like Texas State knew what we were going to do. I didn't say anything about George going there until after the game and he was not surprised at all, especially with the wrist bands we had never used before. Hopefully we can use whatever insider information we have to our advantage tonight.

I asked about and some folks said it wouldn't . I think it did, but frankly they are currently ranked the worse FBS team by Sagarin. We should have won if they were in our back field to start each play. Hyperbole alert.
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Monroe Slavin
10/27/2016 5:29 PM
CA Bobcat wrote:expand_more
What no one has brought up (unless I missed it) is the insider info we could have with the much maligned "Izzy". Wasn't he just at Toledo? Didn't he recruit several of these players? I wonder how much of a difference having Coach George made in Texas State's game plan? I don't know if anyone noticed Ohio had to use the "cheater" wrist bands with plays on them and go old school with players bringing in the play rather than signalling from the sidelines. I know this caused a few issues during the game.

I'll be at the game tonight and believe OUr Bobcats will surprise Toledo and have a breakthrough game as we see all of the pieces come together and the team's full potential realized.

Go Bobcats
I'm also shocked no one brought this major detail up on this board. I brought a friend (former college football player and X's and O's wiz) to the Texas State game with me and he kept commenting how it felt like Texas State knew what we were going to do. I didn't say anything about George going there until after the game and he was not surprised at all, especially with the wrist bands we had never used before. Hopefully we can use whatever insider information we have to our advantage tonight.
I pre-apologize for agreeing with CA Bobcat and bobcatsquared but, deadhorse again, I've said for years that:

if you've seen us a couple of times within the last few years, then you can easily prepare for us. Because our been-here-so-long staff, which TV announcers point to as a good thing, in practice never changes, never do anything new.

and we do not have anything but very MAC-average talent. Especially at key positions.
Last Edited: 10/27/2016 5:30:02 PM by Monroe Slavin
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DallasCat
10/27/2016 7:15 PM
Does anybody know how to stream the game tonight? Looks like it's not on ESPN3.
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PhiTau74
10/27/2016 7:17 PM
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Does anybody know how to stream the game tonight? Looks like it's not on ESPN3.
I can't get it either in South Carolina on Directv or ESPN 3.
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BillyTheCat
10/27/2016 7:20 PM
CBSSports Network
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PhiTau74
10/27/2016 7:24 PM
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CBSSports Network
That's 221 on Directv which I don't even know how you get that channel and I spend about $200 a month on Directv. Any idea how to stream it?
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mid70sbobcat
10/27/2016 7:30 PM
PhiTau74 wrote:expand_more
CBSSports Network
That's 221 on Directv which I don't even know how you get that channel and I spend about $200 a month on Directv. Any idea how to stream it?
http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-sports
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Monroe Slavin
10/27/2016 7:42 PM
Beside the penalty on the punt which we fair caught, WE ACTUALLY JUST RAN AN OPTION WITH A TRUE TWO-BACK SET.


TWO-BACK SET.

How can that be? I thought it was illegal for us!
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DallasCat
10/27/2016 7:42 PM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
CBSSports Network
That's 221 on Directv which I don't even know how you get that channel and I spend about $200 a month on Directv. Any idea how to stream it?
http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-sports
Thanks sir!
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The Pessimist
10/27/2016 7:44 PM
And for those that want a legitimate, ethical, and safe stream... there's the Bobcat Radio feed:

https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ohio/portal.htm?eventI...
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mid70sbobcat
10/27/2016 7:54 PM
The Pessimist wrote:expand_more
And for those that want a legitimate, ethical, and safe stream... there's the Bobcat Radio feed:

https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ohio/portal.htm?eventI...
https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=stream2watch.com
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ts1227
10/27/2016 8:08 PM
PhiTau74 wrote:expand_more
CBSSports Network
That's 221 on Directv which I don't even know how you get that channel and I spend about $200 a month on Directv. Any idea how to stream it?
It's on the highest 3 packages out of the 6 they have (Xtra and higher)

Luckily I'm on a promo rate and it's only $78/month for 2 years
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C Money
10/27/2016 8:16 PM
First quarter offense:
https://youtu.be/ZnHmskwqCCQ?t=4s
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bobcat28
10/27/2016 8:16 PM
This is the worst team we have fielded since 2008.
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Bobcat110
10/27/2016 8:26 PM
Can't imagine the Defense can do much more...offense is going to have to pull their heads out.
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