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OUcats82
10/25/2016 3:20 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I said this a long time ago....build a statue of Frank outside the stadium. Name the field after him (Frank Solich Field at Peden Stadium) What he did for this program should never be forgotten. He pulled us from six-feet under and pumped life into this program. But it is certainly time to pass the baton to someone else to elevate us again. No excuse to watch WMU & others in the MAC soar while we scuffle along to 7-5 bowl seasons thanks to beating the doormats of the MAC and some also-rans in out-of-conference play.

A thought I've had for a couple months, but haven't mentioned out loud: Maybe the reason we only have 5 recruit commits right now is because recruits know Frank is done, and they don't want to commit to uncertainty....and maybe the current players know it too, and that's why we're seeing some uninspired play....
Great observation. That's reaaaaaalllllly interesting. No sarcasm.
Could indeed be a real possibility, and, if it is, very impressed that it has not been leaked given how you can find out what someone had for lunch on Twitter these days.

Want to see some creativity and balls against Toledo on offense this week. This plain vanilla play calling is a snooze fest and if it bores me I can see why a 21 year old doesn't get into it.
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GoCats105
10/25/2016 3:45 PM
So I'm sitting here listening to Frank's press conference while at work.

He said they didn't watch the game film of the Kent game? Huhhhhhhh???

Like I get it, it's a short week. But you gotta at least address some issues with the team right? Like to completely ignore it is just baffling to me.
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SBH
10/25/2016 3:54 PM
He also seemed pretty OK with the way his team played.
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colobobcat66
10/25/2016 4:02 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
So I'm sitting here listening to Frank's press conference while at work.

He said they didn't watch the game film of the Kent game? Huhhhhhhh???

Like I get it, it's a short week. But you gotta at least address some issues with the team right? Like to completely ignore it is just baffling to me.
I haven't thought about it a lot, but I think Frank knows what the problems are. Seems to be a broken record that they can't fix. And a big issue was Kent was a rather unique QB to say the least. Going to see a more conventional running and passing team this week and that's probably not good.

Factoid of the week:Toledo's Hunt has over 700 yards rushing and his longest run is 21 yards. Hard to believe that.
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A-townBound
10/25/2016 4:09 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
So I'm sitting here listening to Frank's press conference while at work.

He said they didn't watch the game film of the Kent game? Huhhhhhhh???

Like I get it, it's a short week. But you gotta at least address some issues with the team right? Like to completely ignore it is just baffling to me.
He said during the radio show that they did not watch it on Sunday, as they normally would, but instead watched it on the bus trip back to Athens.
Last Edited: 10/25/2016 4:10:14 PM by A-townBound
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Robert Fox
10/25/2016 4:45 PM
A-townBound wrote:expand_more
So I'm sitting here listening to Frank's press conference while at work.

He said they didn't watch the game film of the Kent game? Huhhhhhhh???

Like I get it, it's a short week. But you gotta at least address some issues with the team right? Like to completely ignore it is just baffling to me.
He said during the radio show that they did not watch it on Sunday, as they normally would, but instead watched it on the bus trip back to Athens.
He also said the decision was "huge" in comparison to their usual routine, but that they had to make changes with the usual preparation, and decided it was better to spend time on Toledo than spending time on Kent.

Seems reasonable to me.
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D.A.
10/25/2016 5:35 PM
Strange things can happen on short weeks, but the fact that Toledo hasn't traveled anywhere of consequence since October 1st for their game at BYU (only roadie since was the 100 mi. round trip to Ypsi), can't really play in our favor.

Regardless of the outcome, I am looking forward to my first trip to the Glass Bowl! (and hoping for a 2015 NIU like result)
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Pataskala
10/25/2016 8:01 PM
Toledo can be had thru the air. They're tenth in the MAC in pass defense in conference-only games, and have only three sacks in three MAC games. The haven't shown much of a pass rush in conference games.
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Mike Johnson
10/25/2016 8:44 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Toledo can be had thru the air. They're tenth in the MAC in pass defense in conference-only games, and have only three sacks in three MAC games. The haven't shown much of a pass rush in conference games.
Toledo's D has ranged from excellent to questionable. The Rockets surrendered only 3 pts to Maine, 10 to Ark State, 17 to both Fresno State and Central Michigan, 20 to EMU but 35 to BG and 55 to BYU. FEELS like Ohio will have to play as well defensively as at TN and better offensively than against anyone except possibly Kansas.
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10/25/2016 10:08 PM

 

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UpSan Bobcat
10/26/2016 10:09 AM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Toledo can be had thru the air. They're tenth in the MAC in pass defense in conference-only games, and have only three sacks in three MAC games. The haven't shown much of a pass rush in conference games.
Toledo's D has ranged from excellent to questionable. The Rockets surrendered only 3 pts to Maine, 10 to Ark State, 17 to both Fresno State and Central Michigan, 20 to EMU but 35 to BG and 55 to BYU. FEELS like Ohio will have to play as well defensively as at TN and better offensively than against anyone except possibly Kansas.
Right, their offense is unquestionably good, but the defense hasn't always played great. Giving up 35 to BG this year is not good, though BG has improved since earlier. Giving up 55 to anyone is not good. If Ohio's offense and defense are both on top of their games, it could be close. That doesn't mean Ohio has to score 40 points or that Ohio has to hold a great offense to 10. They just have to be good on both sides. If even one struggles, it could get ugly.
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mf279801
10/26/2016 10:30 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Toledo can be had thru the air. They're tenth in the MAC in pass defense in conference-only games, and have only three sacks in three MAC games. The haven't shown much of a pass rush in conference games.
Then hopefully our wideouts forget to lather up their gloves with butter before taking the field tomorrow night.
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L.C.
10/26/2016 11:14 AM
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LC, you posed the question is it really that much easier to recruit to Toledo than it is to Athens? I think the answer to that is easily born out by the results over the how many decades of less than inspiring OHIO football.

Athens may be a utopia to many of us, but I think it is a tough, tough sell to a sizable quantity of athletes to embrace its "Green Acres" feel. I think our "history" of results supports my view.

Recruiting has long been a puzzle to me. The fact that Izzy had a horrible class at Ohio, then had top-of-the-MAC classes in 2012 and 2013 at Toledo is an insightful clue.
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bshot44
10/26/2016 11:32 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
I said this a long time ago....build a statue of Frank outside the stadium. Name the field after him (Frank Solich Field at Peden Stadium) What he did for this program should never be forgotten. He pulled us from six-feet under and pumped life into this program. But it is certainly time to pass the baton to someone else to elevate us again. No excuse to watch WMU & others in the MAC soar while we scuffle along to 7-5 bowl seasons thanks to beating the doormats of the MAC and some also-rans in out-of-conference play.

A thought I've had for a couple months, but haven't mentioned out loud: Maybe the reason we only have 5 recruit commits right now is because recruits know Frank is done, and they don't want to commit to uncertainty....and maybe the current players know it too, and that's why we're seeing some uninspired play....
Your thought makes total sense. But it would be baffling to me that players are uninspired...would think they'd like to make a good impression for next coach (whoever it is) and put some good stuff together on tape. Not to mention...YOU ONLY GET FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL. To throw away a year is nuts. But then again, we're dealing with 18-22 year olds...sometimes logic gets thrown out the window
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Monroe Slavin
10/26/2016 1:17 PM
ever have a boss at work or a teacher who was uninspiring one way or the other? Did it motivate you. deadhorse me, but I've been saying for years that our players cannot be inspired knowing that strategically we are stale and that we are unable to adjust when the opposition is taking it to us.

We're dealing with humans; uninspiring has to affect players and recruits.



How would recruits know this is Coach's last year but word would not have otherwise gotten out to anyone else?

Would our recruiting staff tell recruits that Solich was leaving? That the head man is on the way out would be absolutely the last thing that you'd tell a recruit if you wanted him to come to your school--what recruit would buy into an uncertain situation?
Last Edited: 10/26/2016 1:18:39 PM by Monroe Slavin
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SBH
10/26/2016 1:50 PM
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
10/26/2016 1:55 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
I don't know. Schaus hasn't shown any interest in hiring from within in the past. Maybe this will be different, but I feel like if Schaus is doing the hiring, he'll want to make his own splash and do it outside the program.
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OUcats82
10/26/2016 2:25 PM
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/11180...

I know the players in decision making will be different and I hope that they have this past history to reference. Hiring from within isn't bad per se but that didn't work too well for us the last time.

Also, if this program would be in the market in the near future, keep in mind that they would have to be creative to draw who is needed given the current rate of pay:

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries /

Then again, $572,715 is not chump change and goes far in Southeast Ohio. It would be a bump up for many an up and coming coach.
Last Edited: 10/26/2016 2:30:08 PM by OUcats82
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GoCats105
10/26/2016 2:28 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
I don't know. Schaus hasn't shown any interest in hiring from within in the past. Maybe this will be different, but I feel like if Schaus is doing the hiring, he'll want to make his own splash and do it outside the program.
Agree 100%

Schaus likes carving his own path. As much as he might love Frank, he didn't hire this staff.
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C Money
10/26/2016 2:28 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
How would recruits know this is Coach's last year but word would not have otherwise gotten out to anyone else?

Would our recruiting staff tell recruits that Solich was leaving? That the head man is on the way out would be absolutely the last thing that you'd tell a recruit if you wanted him to come to your school--what recruit would buy into an uncertain situation?

Since I started the speculation, my guess would be the rumors would come from other schools' coaches and/or our own players. The only way I see our own coaches spreading those rumors would be if they had their next job lined up and are really recruiting for the new school. I don't think that is happening here.

But something is definitely going on with recruiting, and there is a definite tension between coaching and current and recently departed players.
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L.C.
10/26/2016 2:35 PM
The pace of recruiting visibly slowed when Coach George left. Other than that, I doubt there is anything else going on. I presume that they will fill the class in December/January, as they did in 2005-2011.
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Monroe Slavin
10/26/2016 2:56 PM
Good answer, C Money.


Boldon, Webb, Saul--I like Schaus's record in the 'bigger' sports.
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SBH
10/26/2016 3:00 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
I don't know. Schaus hasn't shown any interest in hiring from within in the past. Maybe this will be different, but I feel like if Schaus is doing the hiring, he'll want to make his own splash and do it outside the program.
Agree 100%

Schaus likes carving his own path. As much as he might love Frank, he didn't hire this staff.
True, but he has never hired a football coach before. True? He's got great comfort on the Bball side, but...
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GoCats105
10/26/2016 3:24 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
I don't know. Schaus hasn't shown any interest in hiring from within in the past. Maybe this will be different, but I feel like if Schaus is doing the hiring, he'll want to make his own splash and do it outside the program.
Agree 100%

Schaus likes carving his own path. As much as he might love Frank, he didn't hire this staff.
True, but he has never hired a football coach before. True? He's got great comfort on the Bball side, but...
Good point. I think people underestimate this fact when he was possibly a candidate for other jobs.
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BillyTheCat
10/26/2016 7:11 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
My biggest concern about a transition is that Frank and Jim Schaus already have a plan in place...a plan that involves Albin or Burrow as HC. I think chances are better than 50:50 this is the case.
I don't know. Schaus hasn't shown any interest in hiring from within in the past. Maybe this will be different, but I feel like if Schaus is doing the hiring, he'll want to make his own splash and do it outside the program.
Football is the one sport he's never hired. It's also the crown jewel of hires for a resume on that big time job.
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