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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:01 PM
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Some of you may be wondering why we deleted some posts. It started with a post speculating about what maybe actually happened. I realize the original poster wasn't saying this was definite, but with our policy regarding not spreading rumors of a personal, legal nature, I thought it best to delete. Then there were a few posts that quoted and commented on the original, so I had to delete those, too.

I realize some of you will disagree with us deleting the posts, but we have to make some tough calls that not all will agree with.
So whose posts did you delete and why? You live in Jackson County and the other mods way out of town too. Those of us in Athens County have direct connections to all of this so for you to presume to know all is a bit of a stretch. Of course, and unless , you want to make this a safe space.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:21 PM
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Some of you may be wondering why we deleted some posts. It started with a post speculating about what maybe actually happened. I realize the original poster wasn't saying this was definite, but with our policy regarding not spreading rumors of a personal, legal nature, I thought it best to delete. Then there were a few posts that quoted and commented on the original, so I had to delete those, too.

I realize some of you will disagree with us deleting the posts, but we have to make some tough calls that not all will agree with.
good call
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:32 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Some of you may be wondering why we deleted some posts. It started with a post speculating about what maybe actually happened. I realize the original poster wasn't saying this was definite, but with our policy regarding not spreading rumors of a personal, legal nature, I thought it best to delete. Then there were a few posts that quoted and commented on the original, so I had to delete those, too.

I realize some of you will disagree with us deleting the posts, but we have to make some tough calls that not all will agree with.
So whose posts did you delete and why? You live in Jackson County and the other mods way out of town too. Those of us in Athens County have direct connections to all of this so for you to presume to know all is a bit of a stretch. Of course, and unless , you want to make this a safe space.
Just adhering to agreed upon rules that have been in effect since the inception of this board. A post was made speculating on what may have actually happened, and there are legal issues involved for the people being discussed. Best judgment was not to perpetuate that. We are dealing with a website here so even though we mods may not have your Athens all seeing eye, we are still able to make judgments of this nature. Ridiculous to accuse us of trying to create a "safe space" when you consider all that is allowed on here.
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Posted: 12/9/2016 11:48 PM
That policy is in place to protect the message board and its posters.

I don't believe in this case anyone here meant any harm, but better safe than sorry when it comes to possible legal issues.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:09 AM
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That policy is in place to protect the message board and its posters.

I don't believe in this case anyone here meant any harm, but better safe than sorry when it comes to possible legal issues.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 6:37 AM
When you are posting information from official records and published stories in newspapers that is fair game. Interesting you allow conjecture of athletes from other Universities.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 7:14 AM
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When you are posting information from official records and published stories in newspapers that is fair game. Interesting you allow conjecture of athletes from other Universities.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 9:35 AM
So you are saying I cracked the case?
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Posted: 12/10/2016 9:36 AM
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I am a fan of OHIO UNIVERSITY, and, because of my love of sport, I love the OHIO Bobcats. My first love, however, is the university. It was most literally my first home away from home. There have been many times during the tenure of Frank Solich where I have been disgusted by the behavior of our players (and once, by the behavior of our coach).

Please do not throw out the 85-105 boys, there's bound to be a bad apple in the bunch argument. I am in charge of 50 adults. Have been in this position for 6 years. Do you know how many of them have ever been arrested for a felony? NONE. ZERO. NOT A DAMN ONE.

I know these three do not represent the entire team, but this is an embarrassment. My first thought is that the reaction should be that we should turn down our bowl invite in light of this, as we should first get our house in order. I think it would send a strong message that our university does not and will not tolerate this. I am beyond disgusted by the acts of these three boys. I am disappointed in our team.

Too often on broadcasts, we hear about the unimpeachable character of Frank. I've met him, he seems like a really great man. However, there is little to back up the assertion that he builds character in young men. We have seen so many crimes during his time (albeit a decline over last couple of years). On the field (much less egregious), we have seen ridiculous and undisciplined penalties time and again.

For me, the lack of a conference championship may be disappointing, but this feels like the last straw for me. I am hurting for my university right now and would like to see a strong message from the school on this.
Sorry, but I see this as an overreaction. I will throw out the "85-100 boys, there's bound to be a bad apple" argument. Because it's valid. These guys were caught, they are now being processed through the justice system, the university is taking action, the team is taking action. Why should the other players be punished? What did they do?

It's being handled.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 9:39 AM
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I am a fan of OHIO UNIVERSITY, and, because of my love of sport, I love the OHIO Bobcats. My first love, however, is the university. It was most literally my first home away from home. There have been many times during the tenure of Frank Solich where I have been disgusted by the behavior of our players (and once, by the behavior of our coach).

Please do not throw out the 85-105 boys, there's bound to be a bad apple in the bunch argument. I am in charge of 50 adults. Have been in this position for 6 years. Do you know how many of them have ever been arrested for a felony? NONE. ZERO. NOT A DAMN ONE.

I know these three do not represent the entire team, but this is an embarrassment. My first thought is that the reaction should be that we should turn down our bowl invite in light of this, as we should first get our house in order. I think it would send a strong message that our university does not and will not tolerate this. I am beyond disgusted by the acts of these three boys. I am disappointed in our team.

Too often on broadcasts, we hear about the unimpeachable character of Frank. I've met him, he seems like a really great man. However, there is little to back up the assertion that he builds character in young men. We have seen so many crimes during his time (albeit a decline over last couple of years). On the field (much less egregious), we have seen ridiculous and undisciplined penalties time and again.

For me, the lack of a conference championship may be disappointing, but this feels like the last straw for me. I am hurting for my university right now and would like to see a strong message from the school on this.
Sorry, but I see this as an overreaction. I will throw out the "85-100 boys, there's bound to be a bad apple" argument. Because it's valid. These guys were caught, they are now being processed through the justice system, the university is taking action, the team is taking action. Why should the other players be punished? What did they do?

It's being handled.
What he said.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 11:46 AM
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When you are posting information from official records and published stories in newspapers that is fair game. Interesting you allow conjecture of athletes from other Universities.
The poster laid out a scenario of an alternative interpretation of what actually happened. As you know, people today are believing any "narrative" they read, including fake news, as "truth". So we are leaving the posts that are commenting on the articles, but trying to avoiding speculation on what my have happened since there are legal issues involved.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:02 PM
Can we still call them dumbasses for (allegedly) robbing a drug dealer with a broom handle? Because I'd like to go on record as saying that's a pretty dumbass thing to do.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:17 PM
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Can we still call them dumbasses for (allegedly) robbing a drug dealer with a broom handle? Because I'd like to go on record as saying that's a pretty dumbass thing to do.
What drug dealer tells the police that he got robbed with a broom handle? Let's wait for the facts.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 3:01 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
When you are posting information from official records and published stories in newspapers that is fair game. Interesting you allow conjecture of athletes from other Universities.
The poster laid out a scenario of an alternative interpretation of what actually happened. As you know, people today are believing any "narrative" they read, including fake news, as "truth". So we are leaving the posts that are commenting on the articles, but trying to avoiding speculation on what my have happened since there are legal issues involved.
Please explain the editing of posts because "there are legal issues involved." I have absolutely no idea what that means.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 3:27 PM
Just Google "message board poster sued" and you'll understand.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 4:04 PM
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Just Google "message board poster sued" and you'll understand.
I just did and I don't see anything where the board operators could have been or were held responsible. And as Billy said, the posters whose posts were deleted were simply commenting on published articles not some rumor on the street.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 6:43 PM
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Just Google "message board poster sued" and you'll understand.
I just did and I don't see anything where the board operators could have been or were held responsible. And as Billy said, the posters whose posts were deleted were simply commenting on published articles not some rumor on the street.
Didn't something Fleck related result in a lawsuit or almost lawsuit recently?
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Posted: 12/10/2016 6:56 PM
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Posted: 12/11/2016 2:56 PM
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Posted: 12/11/2016 4:36 PM
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Is he seriously blowing a kiss to the camera in his mug shot????
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