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Alan Swank
12/14/2016 8:07 PM
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Alan and Giacomo I came to Athens as a moderate Democrat. I lean conservative GOP now, but don't consider myself ideological, just practical looking what works and what doesn't. I feel fortunate that I have friends in the different cities I have lived and from all races, religions and social strata. It kind of comes with the territory in my business. We agree on some issues, disagree on others.

Alan, the Saturday Night Bubble guy is you, which is what seems to have set you off. No one is as smart as you when it comes to the Bill of Rights, Education and even Led Zeppelin. I am sure you think you are smartest man in Athens. Why are you depriving the good citizens of Ohio and the United States for that matter of your intellect? Hillary and Bernie needed you. However, you had bigger fish to fry correcting people on sports boards about the Bill of Rights, Education policy, Led Zeppelin and God knows what else. You talk about looking in the mirror which in Freudian terms means your projecting. We all have our views on life on this board, but you have to correct people. I hate to break it to you Alan, but you are not smarter than me or anyone else here. Look in the mirror Alan you are bubble guy seen at the very start of the Saturday Live skit and all throughout. You should sue them for character infringement.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-bubble/3...
Looks like you decided to take me on as the weakest of a set of posters of opinions with which you don't agree. Sorry, you picked the wrong guy. How claimed something set me off when I had never seen it until you posted a link. I never claimed to be the smartest when it comes to the Bill of Rights because I'm not a constitutional historian and we have at least one of those on this site. As for Led Zeppelin, one of my favorite activities is going to concerts. But concerning education, your forte, I've spend more time in more schools in more states in America in the last 40 years than any poster on this site, so yes I'd consider myself an expert when it comes to public education in America. But what would you know of that considering your background and your current situation (those are assumptions on my part). I can name five local posters on this board who are way smarter than I am and I know when to defer to their expertise. So in the spirit of full disclosure, why don't you tell us who you are and where you are an educational administrator. Then we can have a candid and meaningful conversation about America and what makes it great.
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Mark Lembright '85
12/14/2016 8:14 PM
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Soooooo, how about that bowl game coming up, huh? Ought to be a pretty good game. I see the line's moved about a point our direction since opening.

Oh hey, Toledo/App State is this Saturday. That's probably one worth watching too. Go Rockets.
I'm glad you said something about the Camelia Bowl. I agree; at least on paper it should be a good team. I'm rooting for Toledo (and all the MAC teams) after APSU beat Ohio on the last play of last year's Camelia Bowl. This one should be a good game!
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L.C.
12/14/2016 8:21 PM
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Hadn't heard that about the case RP. Back when this was about to go to the jury, I was sharing the story over dinner with my wife and played both songs back to back for her. She voted in favor of Spirit. Yes, it is a very common chord progression that even Bach used but in this case it's just too darn close if you ask me.

Why listen to only two songs? You might find this video interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcYeLRI76No
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cbus cat fan
12/14/2016 8:27 PM
Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
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RSBobcat
12/14/2016 9:20 PM
Led Zeppelin > NFL
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Alan Swank
12/14/2016 9:33 PM
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Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
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cbus cat fan
12/14/2016 9:56 PM
Now that is some place I have always wanted to visit. If nothing else, we could discuss our love of music!
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Alan Swank
12/14/2016 10:06 PM
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Now that is some place I have always wanted to visit. If nothing else, we could discuss our love of music!
It's a fine place but I prefer Gadsby's Tavern and their resident historian. He will certainly entertain music and political conversations of the day and today.

http://www.gadsbystavernrestaurant.com

http://sandefur.typepad.com/freespace/2011/09/john-dougla...
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rpbobcat
12/15/2016 6:40 AM
Getting back to the original topic,at least for this post.

One of the reasons given for the drop in NFL ratings are the frequency and duration of commercial breaks.

When I was coming into work this morning they were talking about this on our local sports radio station.

According to WFAN,the NFL is planning on experimenting with commercial breaks during week 16.

The experiment would be limited to "scrub" games.(The NFL didn't call them that,WFAN did)

Anyway,the NFL wants to try shorter,more frequent breaks or longer less frequent ones.

They also want FOX to look into some "live" commercials when they broadcast the Super Bowl.

One suggestion was to do like they do in golf and motor sports,keep a "box" showing the action continuing,but no sound while a commercial plays.

Problem with that is,a lot of stadiums now show their own commercials during breaks.
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rpbobcat
12/15/2016 7:00 AM
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Hadn't heard that about the case RP. Back when this was about to go to the jury, I was sharing the story over dinner with my wife and played both songs back to back for her. She voted in favor of Spirit. Yes, it is a very common chord progression that even Bach used but in this case it's just too darn close if you ask me.
I don't know anyone whose heard both songs who doesn't think LZ "lifted" it from Spirit.

As you know,I'm a big Bruce fan.

Over the years I've been amazed how many of his "riffs" are similar,or in some cases,the same,as songs by other artists.

I remember Arlo Guthrie talking about it at a concert.
He called it "borrowing".
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Bcat2
12/15/2016 7:01 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Getting back to the original topic,at least for this post.

One of the reasons given for the drop in NFL ratings are the frequency and duration of commercial breaks.

When I was coming into work this morning they were talking about this on our local sports radio station.

According to WFAN,the NFL is planning on experimenting with commercial breaks during week 16.

The experiment would be limited to "scrub" games.(The NFL didn't call them that,WFAN did)

Anyway,the NFL wants to try shorter,more frequent breaks or longer less frequent ones.

They also want FOX to look into some "live" commercials when they broadcast the Super Bowl.

One suggestion was to do like they do in golf and motor sports,keep a "box" showing the action continuing,but no sound while a commercial plays.

Problem with that is,a lot of stadiums now show their own commercials during breaks.
This directed at the NFL, not rpbobcat, who is the the messenger here. Yawn.
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Robert Fox
12/15/2016 8:34 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
One of the reasons given for the drop in NFL ratings are the frequency and duration of commercial breaks.
For me, this is the number one issue. Not just with NFL, but college games as well. I was disappointed to see that only 10 percent chose this as their reason for less watching. For me, it's far and away the number one issue. I'm too impatient to sit through commercial breaks at the current frequency. For example, third and goal from the 2. Timeout. Go to commercial. Return for one play UTM, TD, PAT. Go to commercial. Return for kickoff. Go to commercial.
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Ohio69
12/15/2016 9:20 AM
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Some of you truly are a living parody which brings us to the Saturday Night skit about the Liberal Bubble. Who knows maybe some of you guys may be in there!
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-bubble/3...

Cbus -- You are watching the wrong clip. The black jeopardy with Tom Hanks clip is what needs watching.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/black-jeopar...

This clip is all about the tail wagging the dog. While everyone is arguing about a dozen guys kneeling during the national anthem and some dumb asses yelling F the police.... We are missing that we agree on a vast majority of issues. All you gotta do is bring up "lives that matter"....

But, agreements don't get ratings for Fox nor CNN....
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DelBobcat
12/15/2016 11:53 AM
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Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
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rpbobcat
12/15/2016 12:38 PM
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Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
Something else we can agree on:
McGillins !

Stumbled on it by accident walking around Center City years ago.

My wife and I were looking for someplace to grab a bite to eat before a show.

Walked in.
Bruce playing in the background,lively,burgers,their own ale.
Figured we'd give it a shot.
Now we try to go there every time we're in Philly.

Best trip was the NCAA Wrestling Finals,when PSU was gonna win for the first time in forever.
Wall to wall fans from every college you could think of.

Just don't try to get in when PSU is playing football.
Never saw so much blue and white.
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cbus cat fan
12/15/2016 12:51 PM
Ohio 69 Very interesting hadn't seen that skit.

DelBobcat & RPBobcat I would love to get back to Philly and check all this out. I love history and good food and drink & when you had Bobcat company you just can't beat it!
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Pataskala
12/15/2016 1:47 PM
I don't watch as much NFL as I used to. I agree with those who think the NFL has diluted its product with too many non-Sunday games, too many overseas games that don't have the same atmosphere and not as good a product as they've had. I don't like all the commercial breaks, I don't like all the showboating and I don't like the reputations that some players and some teams have gotten because of on-field and off-field issues. And some teams I just don't like. Patriots? Bah! Will never watch them because they cheat so much. Cowboys, Redskins, Seahawks? Nope.

But the main reason I don't watch NFL is because by Sunday I've had all the football I want. The Thursday, Friday and Saturday saturation of college ball -- plus midweek MACtion in November -- is more entertaining and more fun to watch than the NFL. There's a better pace and a better atmosphere. Players actually celebrate scores with their teammates and not with five-minute pre-choreographed solo dances. Players generally don't make a big deal out of making a sack or a first down. Unlike most NFLers, they act like they've been there before. There's more "team" and less "me."
Last Edited: 12/15/2016 1:49:45 PM by Pataskala
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OhioCatFan
12/15/2016 3:32 PM
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. . . But the main reason I don't watch NFL is because by Sunday I've had all the football I want. The Thursday, Friday and Saturday saturation of college ball -- plus midweek MACtion in November -- is more entertaining and more fun to watch than the NFL. There's a better pace and a better atmosphere. . . . Unlike most NFLers, they act like they've been there before. There's more "team" and less "me."
+1

Could not have said it better. I'm a college football fan first and foremost. The NFL is just some afterthought if I'm in the mood for more football on Sunday. My son is a Brown's fan and sometimes I'll watch a game with him just to offer emotional support. I own a share in the Green Bay Pakers, and I'll watch their games in the playoffs, but overall the NFL is really second fiddle to me.
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DelBobcat
12/16/2016 10:33 AM
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Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
Something else we can agree on:
McGillins !

Stumbled on it by accident walking around Center City years ago.

My wife and I were looking for someplace to grab a bite to eat before a show.

Walked in.
Bruce playing in the background,lively,burgers,their own ale.
Figured we'd give it a shot.
Now we try to go there every time we're in Philly.

Best trip was the NCAA Wrestling Finals,when PSU was gonna win for the first time in forever.
Wall to wall fans from every college you could think of.

Just don't try to get in when PSU is playing football.
Never saw so much blue and white.
I make it there at least once a week. It really can't be beat. Reasonably priced and an amazing atmosphere. It's fun to imagine what it would've been like in the late 19th Century. They also go all out decorating for every holiday. Their Christmas decorations in particular are legendary. In my opinion it's one of the best pubs in America.
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rpbobcat
12/16/2016 11:04 AM
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I make it there at least once a week. It really can't be beat. Reasonably priced and an amazing atmosphere. It's fun to imagine what it would've been like in the late 19th Century. They also go all out decorating for every holiday. Their Christmas decorations in particular are legendary. In my opinion it's one of the best pubs in America.
Could not agree with you more.

A couple of years ago my brother and his wife,on my recommendation, went there.

They hated it.

"Too loud", and that was upstairs.

I told them beforehand the place is "lively",that's one of the reasons you go.

Some people!

Funny story.
We were working of a field project in northern N.J.
The job super came from Philly.
I mentioned McGillins.

He was shocked that someone from Northern N.J.,with no ties to Philly, knew about it.
I told him,just dumb luck we found it.

He mentioned the decorations too and that sometimes, after Philly's New Years Day Parade,the Mummers come down and play there.
Last Edited: 12/16/2016 11:09:51 AM by rpbobcat
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Alan Swank
12/16/2016 12:15 PM
DelBobcat wrote:expand_more
Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
Really, Mcgillins? It has televisions and karaoke. Hardly historic.
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DelBobcat
12/16/2016 1:16 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
I make it there at least once a week. It really can't be beat. Reasonably priced and an amazing atmosphere. It's fun to imagine what it would've been like in the late 19th Century. They also go all out decorating for every holiday. Their Christmas decorations in particular are legendary. In my opinion it's one of the best pubs in America.
Could not agree with you more.

A couple of years ago my brother and his wife,on my recommendation, went there.

They hated it.

"Too loud", and that was upstairs.

I told them beforehand the place is "lively",that's one of the reasons you go.

Some people!

Funny story.
We were working of a field project in northern N.J.
The job super came from Philly.
I mentioned McGillins.

He was shocked that someone from Northern N.J.,with no ties to Philly, knew about it.
I told him,just dumb luck we found it.

He mentioned the decorations too and that sometimes, after Philly's New Years Day Parade,the Mummers come down and play there.
It can get a bit loud at times, but it comes with the territory. I overlook it haha. Mummers do make appearances on NYD and other times of the year as well. Great stuff!
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12/16/2016 1:21 PM
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Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
Really, Mcgillins? It has televisions and karaoke. Hardly historic.
Do the televisions or karaoke change the fact that the bar has been in operation since 1860? Or that it is full of cool historic Philly artifacts? Or that they have every liquor license since 1860 proudly displayed behind the bar? Or that it has played host to Presidents, Kings, and all manner of historic figures?

City Tavern is a reproduction, carefully curated to look like it is historic. It's not the building that was there when the history happened. Mcgillin's a living and breathing pub that has evolved with the times while holding tightly to all the things that made it great in 1860, 1960, and will make it great in 2060.

...and to bring this back to the original topic, the televisions allow you to watch NFL games there :)
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Alan Swank
12/16/2016 1:51 PM
DelBobcat wrote:expand_more
Alan, I will take a break from the game to answer your questions. No I don't view you as some sort of weak poster. We have all had a good give and take and perhaps this is a good way to wrap it up. No, I am currently not an on campus school administrator, though I have been and feel fortunate enough to have had some opportunities to do that on a wider more national scale which permits me to travel, speak, write etc. Alan, I really don't care to everyone's know business on this site. All I know is what they make available. I know you live in Athens and I have no idea if you are professor, research analyst or OU administrator. I wish you well in whatever endeavor you are involved. Perhaps we can continue to discuss issues when they arise, but it appears we have aired enough of our views--as far as I am concerned on this thread. Until the next time take care!
Fair enough and well stated. Let's adjourn to the City Tavern for an ale.

https://www.citytavern.com
I live about 10 blocks from the City Tavern. It's good for what it is, but it's a reproduction and not the actual City Tavern. For a true historic Philadelphia experience check out McGillin's, Cherry Street Tavern, or head up to Chestnut Hill for a Schmitter sandwich at McNally's.


http://mcgillins.com /

http://www.cherrysttavern.com/HOME.html

http://www.mcnallystavern.com /
Really, Mcgillins? It has televisions and karaoke. Hardly historic.
Do the televisions or karaoke change the fact that the bar has been in operation since 1860? Or that it is full of cool historic Philly artifacts? Or that they have every liquor license since 1860 proudly displayed behind the bar? Or that it has played host to Presidents, Kings, and all manner of historic figures?

City Tavern is a reproduction, carefully curated to look like it is historic. It's not the building that was there when the history happened. Mcgillin's a living and breathing pub that has evolved with the times while holding tightly to all the things that made it great in 1860, 1960, and will make it great in 2060.

...and to bring this back to the original topic, the televisions allow you to watch NFL games there :)
City Tavern burned down and they rebuilt it. So what - it's pretty darn close to being authentic. You cite Mcgillins as part of the "true historic Philadelphia experience." A place with televisions and karaoke doesn't really capture that. Essentially what we are comparing is a rebuilt 18th century tavern which is primarily a restaurant today with an intact 1860 Irish pub that is primarily a sports bar today. There is room for both.
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Monroe Slavin
12/17/2016 12:57 PM
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There are many more distractions now versus then. I agree that it is over exposed. I don't get the political reasons. If I want to watch a game, Kaepernick kneeling during the anthem surely won't make me to turn away. I don't tie patriotism into watching sports. Cuban makes a good point about pigs getting slaughtered. Good memories shared about first games. Mine were at municipal stadium in Cleveland too.
Flag waving SOBs like myself are dying off. Legion sponsored baseball used to be the norm, no longer. We fought a "war" for five years and the commitment created the "greatest generation." Congress was filled with veterans from service for decades after. Now the media pitches a fit when presidents want to have three in a cabinet. On 9/11 we suffered another Pearl Harbor like attack. Supposedly we have been at "war" for 15 years, yet, without the commitment and terror prosecuted by a "JV team" has been allowed to displace millions. Tomorrow there will be two more funerals for veterans from our area. The VFW funeral detail w/rifles will provide military honors. The local Patriot Guard, on bikes, with flags will, at the request of the families, form flag lines outside the services and at graveside. If watching your pro football game is more important to you than respect for the colors, fine. No, you did not tie patriotism to watching sports. It was done generations ago whenever they started playing the Anthem before games. You probably don't fly a flag at home, but, when you go by a house that does there is likely someone there who cares.

Could you be more get-off-my-lawn clueless?

There's nothing inherently wrong with your patriotic views.

Other than that they are classically stuck in a mindset of 50 years ago.

It's so sad. You don't even see how, in this post and your book of work here, close-minded you are. You simply cannot tolerate thinking that is outside your overly limited point of view.

The one post above makes is extremely evident why you're so rigid, so stuck on one view of OHIO FOOTBALL and, therefore, ABSOLUTELY unwilling to consider contrary evidence, facts, information. Sad.


Everything said about the current waning of the NFL's popularity is true, with an emphasis on it's somewhat cyclical (so off huge popularity, some retreat), games are boring and we're over-saturated (who's going to care about their team if they're functionally eliminated from the playoffs after six games and unlikely to win a title for 50 years), and video-viewing has changed dramatically recently (so many outlets and flipping channels to pursue fantasy football results).


Police have a very tough jobs. No doubt about it.

But look at all the videos over the last few years of police behavior that just cannot be what we expect as a standard of police behavior.

Then, realize that we are, generally, in a more tolerant society (race, religion, color, sex, etc) than ever.

If you do, you'll have an idea of the generations and generations of police too often getting away with abusing their positions--because of intolerance and lack of possibility of video proof of same.

Good cops WANT their actions video'd.


Or, you can be such as Bcat2, stuck in your 1951 view of the world.
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