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Topic: Someone post the WVU, OSU, and Rutgers contracts and the LOVE will take the gloves off.....
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/24/2025 3:13 PM
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I’m around often, you got a problem with me, I’ll show you what spineless looks like. I’ve not called you names, nor have I been insulting to you. Feel free to not hide behind a keyboard.
Sorry, my man, but just calling a spade a spade here.

It's hard not to see it as completely spineless to "hint" publicly that somebody is sexist and fails to treat people with dignity, and then to refuse to support that with evidence and claim you'll share more only via DM. You're publicly smearing somebody without having the balls to stand behind what you're saying, or even justify what's leading you to say it.

And then when pressed, both you and Bobcat1996 only want to talk about whether we're getting paid enough for the WVU series.

From your perspective are you being brave here?

You should also pay closer attention to things you post here. It's basically all weird and passive aggressive, calling people out but not never by name. You constantly try and instigate things in the most passive aggressive way possible, and when called on it you disappear. It's always something like "And some people here think X", when everybody knows who you're talking about because there's 14 active posters here and you were having a conversation with them about a day prior.

So, yeah, sorry man, but I'm just calling a spade a spade. If you want to meet on the playground during recess because of this, let me know.
Last Edited: 1/24/2025 3:17:57 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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SBH
1/24/2025 10:58 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
"Ding. Ding. Ding. Also gold star to DCF as well. Seems some are starting to get the point.

I would also mention two points:

1. On the above quoted post - this is my problem with Cromer. Instead of looking out for Ohio (and working to band together with the other G5's) - she (and her peers) are scared to death (and completely irresponsible) by not taking this on as an initiative, for fear it will cost them opportunities to work at the P4's. This is my biggest single issue. Cromer is so busy trying to get back to the 479, that it appears she won't accept responsibility for improving the 740."


B-Love-I have stated on a few occasions that the West Virginia deal three game series is not a great business opportunity for Ohio. Three games for a total net of $1 million dollars for the total of that series when 1-AA schools like Albany are being paid $475 K per game is not a great deal. Big 12 teams can afford way more than that. Terrible business deal! Of course many on this forum think that the AD can do no wrong.
When you acquire a copy of the WVU contract, you will not find Julie Cromer's signature on it. It was negotiated by her predecessor. Wrong again.
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Bobcat Love
1/25/2025 1:11 PM
Nebraska does have her name on it, as should Illinois I believe.

Whatever the case, I stand by the fact they should all be re-negotiated.
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cc-cat
1/25/2025 1:43 PM
Nebraska because their fans just gave them $62 million and we should get us some of that? Or because we live in an alternate universe where Houston Christian, Akron or any other FCS or G5 team have no impact on the free marketplace?
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Bobcat Love
1/26/2025 6:53 PM
I guess we aren't getting the contracts....sad. Wasn't a tough ask.
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Bobcat1996
1/26/2025 8:43 PM
Football 8/18/2021 1:30:00 PM

Ohio Football Announces Three-Game Non-Conference Series with West Virginia
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ATHENS, Ohio – Ohio Director of Athletics Julie Cromer has announced that the Bobcats have added a three-game non-conference football series with West Virginia.

The first game of the series will be played in Athens, Ohio, on Saturday, Sept. 6, 2025. The second and third games will be played in Morgantown, on Saturday, Sept. 18, 2027 and Saturday, Sept. 1, 2029.

Ohio and West Virginia have met 17 times with the Mountaineers holding a 13-4 series advantage. The two teams last played in 2001 in Morgantown. The Bobcats have only hosted WVU twice, with the last time coming in August of 1949.

The Bobcats open the 2021 season on Saturday, Sept. 4 when Ohio hosts ACC opponent Syracuse. Kick-off is set for 7 p.m. inside Peden Stadium and will be seen on CBS Sports Network. For tickets, click here.


SBH and others see above. The WVU deal was announced in 2021. Ohio's current AD was in Athens for almost two years before the deal was announced. You and others that constantly support her are wrong. If you think that a net total of $1 million for a three game series with a Big 12 school is a fabulous deal, then please buy some beach front property in Amesville that is for sell cheap.
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SBH
1/26/2025 10:50 PM
See response on Bball page. I don't want to waste my time on you.
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Marty45714
1/27/2025 11:12 AM
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
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Deciduous Forest Cat
1/27/2025 11:46 AM
Marty45714 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
There are a few posters who generally turn every thread into some childish pissing contest. They know who they are and should really give it a freaking rest for everyone's benefit. try to ignore them and enjoy the rest of the content/conversation.
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Bobcat1996
1/27/2025 3:51 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
See response on Bball page. I don't want to waste my time on you.
The information about the WVU contract in 2021 wasn't good enough for you. Admit it, you were incorrect.
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SBH
1/27/2025 4:34 PM
You are aware that Jim Schaus has deep ties to WVU, right? That's how it happened. Deal with it.
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GoCats105
1/28/2025 11:22 AM
Marty45714 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
This thread not withstanding, this place is usually a pretty great place to engage with your fellow Bobcats.

It's also the offseason for football, so take that into consideration.
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Bobcat1996
1/29/2025 8:12 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
You are aware that Jim Schaus has deep ties to WVU, right? That's how it happened. Deal with it.
We all know Fred Schaus was a coach and athletic director at WVU. Jim Schaus left Athens in early June of 2019 and this deal was announced by Ohio's current administration in August of 2021.
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Bobcat1996
1/29/2025 8:37 AM
Marty45714 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
Marty45714- welcome to the message board. Feel free to post any time, but be aware that some on this board will shred you if they don't agree with what you post.
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M.D.W.S.T
1/29/2025 9:21 AM
Marty45714 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
Don't judge all of us based on this post alone. Just BL.

Opinions are welcome. Banter is *most* of the fun.
Last Edited: 1/29/2025 9:21:47 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/29/2025 10:47 AM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
Marty45714- welcome to the message board. Feel free to post any time, but be aware that some on this board will shred you if they don't agree with what you post.
Especially if you post it 19 times in every thread you're in.
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JimLurker34
1/29/2025 11:31 AM
Marty45714 wrote:expand_more
Hello, newbie here. Football season ticket holder since '05.

Just joined the message board and after reading this post I'm not certain I want to be here. Why are you all such a-holes to each other? Is this forum moderated?

In any case, I'm hoping my opinions will be welcome, but I'm afraid to post them at this point. LOL
Welcome. I lurked for years before I ever made my first post. This board is generally welcoming to new posters. Most of the nasty stuff goes on between a few posters that don't seem to like each other, but for most of us its a pleasant experience.
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GoCats105
1/30/2025 1:10 PM
Something that hasn't been mentioned previously on this thread is the concept of protected rivalries. The following schools in the Big Ten and SEC have protected rivalries with schools from other conferences.

Washington (Washington State)
Oregon (Oregon State)
USC (Notre Dame)
Georgia (Georgia Tech)
South Carolina (Clemson)
Florida (Florida State)
Kentucky (Louisville)

SEC leaders are divided on moving to a nine game conference schedule and Big Ten officials are questioning whether they should move back to an eight game conference schedule. The reason? So they can schedule more matchups against each other out of conference - which would potentially lead to even more revenue outside of their current media rights packages with the networks.

So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference. Some years you would have five conference home games, some years you would have four. You mean to tell me in a year where they play five SEC road games, they're gonna schedule another OOC matchup against the Big Ten? So that leaves exactly one open spot on the schedule (nine conference games, Clemson, insert Big Ten = 11) for presumably a home game most likely against a Group of Five school.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /

I did quite enjoy this part of the article:

"But the last thing the Big Ten and SEC want is the optics of collusion. It’s no coincidence that both brought legal teams to last week’s meetings to steer clear of those potential problems."

The two conferences are meeting again in February in New Orleans to discuss further changes to the CFP and scheduling.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-sec-big-ten-to-hold-seco...
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Bobcat Love
1/30/2025 4:04 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Something that hasn't been mentioned previously on this thread is the concept of protected rivalries. The following schools in the Big Ten and SEC have protected rivalries with schools from other conferences.

Washington (Washington State)
Oregon (Oregon State)
USC (Notre Dame)
Georgia (Georgia Tech)
South Carolina (Clemson)
Florida (Florida State)
Kentucky (Louisville)

SEC leaders are divided on moving to a nine game conference schedule and Big Ten officials are questioning whether they should move back to an eight game conference schedule. The reason? So they can schedule more matchups against each other out of conference - which would potentially lead to even more revenue outside of their current media rights packages with the networks.

So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference. Some years you would have five conference home games, some years you would have four. You mean to tell me in a year where they play five SEC road games, they're gonna schedule another OOC matchup against the Big Ten? So that leaves exactly one open spot on the schedule (nine conference games, Clemson, insert Big Ten = 11) for presumably a home game most likely against a Group of Five school.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /

I did quite enjoy this part of the article:

"But the last thing the Big Ten and SEC want is the optics of collusion. It’s no coincidence that both brought legal teams to last week’s meetings to steer clear of those potential problems."

The two conferences are meeting again in February in New Orleans to discuss further changes to the CFP and scheduling.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-sec-big-ten-to-hold-seco...
Interesting that someone else screamed about collusion and brain dead MORONS shouted him down.

Hmmmm…..
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/30/2025 4:53 PM
Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
Something that hasn't been mentioned previously on this thread is the concept of protected rivalries. The following schools in the Big Ten and SEC have protected rivalries with schools from other conferences.

Washington (Washington State)
Oregon (Oregon State)
USC (Notre Dame)
Georgia (Georgia Tech)
South Carolina (Clemson)
Florida (Florida State)
Kentucky (Louisville)

SEC leaders are divided on moving to a nine game conference schedule and Big Ten officials are questioning whether they should move back to an eight game conference schedule. The reason? So they can schedule more matchups against each other out of conference - which would potentially lead to even more revenue outside of their current media rights packages with the networks.

So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference. Some years you would have five conference home games, some years you would have four. You mean to tell me in a year where they play five SEC road games, they're gonna schedule another OOC matchup against the Big Ten? So that leaves exactly one open spot on the schedule (nine conference games, Clemson, insert Big Ten = 11) for presumably a home game most likely against a Group of Five school.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /

I did quite enjoy this part of the article:

"But the last thing the Big Ten and SEC want is the optics of collusion. It’s no coincidence that both brought legal teams to last week’s meetings to steer clear of those potential problems."

The two conferences are meeting again in February in New Orleans to discuss further changes to the CFP and scheduling.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-sec-big-ten-to-hold-seco...
Interesting that someone else screamed about collusion and brain dead MORONS shouted him down.

Hmmmm…..

You're the one who has been saying that they don't want to play more P4 games, right? In like 12 threads. Nonstop for months?

Now it turns out they want to play more P4 games so badly that they have their legal teams figuring out how to do it without getting sued. You think they're not gonna be able to figure it out? That's your stance now?

For months now you've been shouting that: 1) P5 schools are willing to put together schedules worth less TV money, 2) pay G5 schools handsomely to do so, and that 3) all of this will happen right as they have to give 20% of revenue to athletes.

That stance is complete and utter nonsense. Everybody saw it but you, and now, somehow, in the face of proof that P5 schools are -- shockingly -- going to try and make more money instead of less, you're calling other people morons?

Your take here is basically "P5 programs want to earn less money now that they have lost 20% of their revenue, and they will happily increase what they pay to the G5 for schedule filler." It makes no logical sense, and it never has.

Because as it turns out, P5 schools know how to add and subtract and why more revenue is better than less revenue. You're the only one caught of guard by this, and the one calling others braindead morons. Smart.
Last Edited: 1/30/2025 9:08:37 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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1/30/2025 6:49 PM
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So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference.
Money. Look at the lengths we're going to convince ourselves we're important. In the end, they will follow the money, not earn less money and choose to give more of it away.
Last Edited: 1/30/2025 9:09:17 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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1/31/2025 8:50 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference.
Money. Look at the lengths we're going to convince ourselves we're important. In the end, they will follow the money, not earn less money and choose to give more of it away.
Exactly.

Bork was interviewed not too long ago and he said in the future they're scheduling LESS money games, not more. Because in this era - they're using that $1M on athletes. And these G5 games that they need so badly, don't generate enough interest or money to make it worth it. Often 5x less in revenue per game. They're sure as shit are not paying OU $8M (LMAO I still can't believe he said that) for the pleasure of playing the mighty Bobcats.
Last Edited: 1/31/2025 8:54:39 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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Tymaster
1/31/2025 9:50 AM
Look, I'm an alum. My wife is a professor there. We enjoy football games as a nice excuse to go to the city, see our friends, revel in the cute little stadium, eat hot dogs, and cheer on the Bobcats. If they are on the road and happen to be on tv, we tune in and order a pizza. I'll find them on radio if I can as well. The MACC game and Bowl Games are a nice bonus. I'm not some nutso fan like the ones in Columbus who refer to the team as "we" and actually let my day and my attitude be decided by my fanaticism. That's weird. I realize that little ol' OU can not ever win a Natty and I don't really care. It doesn't affect my life in the least. I enjoy what we have and think OU does great for the money we have. If anything, we probably spend too much on sports but that's a different argument for another day. This post is ludicrous.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/31/2025 10:05 AM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Exactly.

Bork was interviewed not too long ago and he said in the future they're scheduling LESS money games, not more. Because in this era - they're using that $1M on athletes. And these G5 games that they need so badly, don't generate enough interest or money to make it worth it. Often 5x less in revenue per game. They're sure as shit are not paying OU $8M (LMAO I still can't believe he said that) for the pleasure of playing the mighty Bobcats.
Yep, everything's about money. And what's more valuable -- a week two slate where the Big 10 and SEC can fill a bunch of NFL stadiums in neutral cities and negotiate with ABC/ESPN on those games, or a scrimmage against Eastern Michigan where they get ticket sales, but have nothing to sell the networks that the networks aren't just treating as filler?

The argument was always that the G5 filler games were valuable because 1) they were guaranteed wins and 2) nobody wanted to play a tough OOC schedule and risk not making the playoff.

Now the playoff is bigger, and the P4 is exerting more control over who gets into it. So, money it is.
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GoCats105
1/31/2025 10:21 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
So if you're South Carolina, why in the hell would you want to move to a nine game conference schedule? You already have to play Clemson out of conference.
Money. Look at the lengths we're going to convince ourselves we're important. In the end, they will follow the money, not earn less money and choose to give more of it away.
I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure they do make more money in that scenario. The SEC's media rights deal is set in stone no matter how many times they play each other in conference. However they would make extra revenue on top of that for playing an OOC game against the Big Ten, per the linked article.

I don't think teams like South Carolina or Kentucky are willing to sacrifice home game revenue and possible more wins to help their playoff chances just to satisfy a network's need to see yet another conference game. If you're the SEC, you want to see as many teams in the playoff as possible. I don't think you do that by making everyone's schedule a little bit tougher in conference when you don't have to.
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