Let's just do a public examination of how bad (or good) this really is.

We all know the Ohio State $1.9 Million is already an atrocity, but I'm willing to have an educated discussion about Cromer, Gonzalez, and my perception that they DO NOT have the University's best financial interests at heart, especially as Cromer pursues her P4 job. People have hinted that allegedly the WVU contract is abysmal and reeks of poor judgement, but we have never seen it in black and white.

I have donated consistently to the Ohio Bobcat Club (I believe I am one of 10-15 donors who has donated to the OBC from Day 1) -> and I will be there long after this current administration departs. Hell, I've already outlasted Mac, Boeh, Schaus, Joke-Cutt, and I'll keep going long after Cromer is feeding at the 479 Trough. Someone find and post the contracts (or send them to me via PM), and I'll start the discussion. They should all be in the public domain.

Let's go. Time to put up or shut up. There's millions at stake for Ohio, I don't give a damn who wants to go work in the SEC or Big 10, and I'm certainly not out to line the pockets of Greg Sankey, Tony Pettiti, or Ross Bjork. I care about Ohio, first and foremost. Let's take the gloves off.

LOVE

So other than just yapping, what is your proposal? What leverage do we have? What do we bring to the table?

Other than "you HAVE money, we WANT money... give us money"...


Here are some recent pay-games.

2024: Ohio State - Kent State: $1.5M

I'll just stop there, can someone get Cromer, Gonzalez on the line? BL wants to apologize. OU was able to get a 26% raise on the going rate? Incredible work.



Just for fun...

Notre Dame paid NIU $1.4M


Those games have a ceiling on revenue, they're not marquee match-ups and don't bring in as much money. That would be obvious to most people. OU doesn't bring the bargaining power or money as even a bottom tier power five team that travels better or drives more interest... even a game against Purdue you have a larger crowd that spends more money on tickets, parking, concessions, tv ads, etc

Embarrassed by facts and logic and you lash out like a child. No surprise here.

I just posted the contracts. We got a 26% higher rate than other MAC schools.

Really? Cause it seems like you're just crying to yourself like always while actual adults ignore you.

You've been given the facts, again, like a child, and choose to ignore them. How on earth you've reached these fatuous thoughts with literally no argument or fact-based musings other than again - you have money, me want money - has long grown dull and boring.

That’s just not how anything works.

Does OU drive ticket sales, parking revenue, concessions, tv audiences?

Again, “you have money, me want money” is not a sound argument.

The fact of the matter is these pay games are going to become less and less, not more. Because they don’t drive additional revenue. Simple fact. Ohio State playing OU or any G5 for that matter doesn’t move the needle. It’s not a quality win. There is no true incentive for OSU to increase any payouts. And saying but but but we want $3M to lose ! is not an argument. They’ll just go down to the next taker. If they consider another G5 opponent at all.

There's only so many buy games to go around for the Power Four to choose from and if they want to sniff the CFP what is the easiest thing to do? Schedule more easier wins at home. Now, depending on who you ask, some people think more OOC games between power schools are coming for television. Maybe, but they also want to pad their stats and coffers with home game Ws.

If the argument against this is maybe eventually the top tier breaks away and only schedules each other, I think that's a completely seperate argument for a different day. But that's obviously not happening in the nearest of near futures.

The gap between what revenue a Group of Five team makes compared to a Power Four team makes grows every season.

"In 2005, the average power conference football program generated about $10.9 million in annual revenue, compared with about $4.4 million for the average Group of 5 team. By the 2022-23 academic year, that gap in football revenue had grown to more than $30 million -- a more than four-fold increase."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41207867...

Ted, Ryan, Jeff.....can we possibly administer a 3rd Grade level proficiency test before we allow people to post on this board. We have some absolute morons in our presence. Seriously, if you are an illiterate carpetbagger like MDWST, you shouldn't be allowed to have a drivers license, BA account, or the right to vote. My god, the stupidity is off the charts.

"You have money, we want money is not an argument"
"I'm sure Duke is dying to join the MAC"

Does this moron have an original thought? It's dumbassery on the lowest scale with this clown.

Don't get pissed that some people are starting to come around to the level of critical thinking where I've been operating for decades. Maybe have the lobotomy reversed and you can join us in some basic problem solving. This is about inventory, not a re-distribution of wealth - MORON. I'm done with you.

Your third grade read level and room temperature IQ are no match for us.

You have - once again - embarrassed yourself and continue to lash out because your inferiority complex can’t process a rational thought. It’s sad to watch the spiral.

Have no idea what Rutgers deal is but I've heard Ohio State is $1.9 Million. I have also heard WVU is a three game series for a net of $1 million for the total of this three game series. This is what I have been told.

Hey, guys and gals, is this the most dysfunctional thread in the history BA? Or, is it simply the most humorous? The level of mudslinging here would make James Callender blush. [A BA Huzzah for anyone who knows who Callender is without doing an internet search.]

This is where I believe the G5 leaders need to start banding together, and it should be Oregon State and Washington State leading that charge since they were affected the most.

I don't want to argue numbers here, but it's also wrong to argue that the P5 doesn't need us. The P5 needs G5 games! Would they play them if they didn't? If a P5 wants a game but they don't want to return the game, then they should be paying a hefty ransom. Remember, they're not paying us to come there, THEY'RE PAYING US TO GIVE UP A RETURN GAME. They get their cake and they eat it, but we do deserve a bigger lick of frosting.