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colobobcat66
7/5/2017 11:35 AM
How's he going to sell his doggie bags now that his ads are off this site?
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MedinaCat
7/5/2017 11:43 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
At some point, you just have to let it go.
Same could be said to Monroe. This is the second time he has been "banned" from BA. I respect the owners/administrators right to manage the website as they see fit.
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Pataskala
7/5/2017 11:56 AM
For me, negativity is ok if the comment is fair and it's not taken to the extreme. My gripe with Monroe is that he has just one criterion for the success or failure of the football program. He misses out on the other factors that should be examined. He refuses to appreciate how far this program has come since Solich took over. Yes, we're frustrated with not having a MACC, but we can appreciate that Ohio is now a perennial contender instead of the MAC's perpetual doormat.
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L.C.
7/5/2017 12:08 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
I never understood why people just didn't exercise restraint. No one is forcing anyone to either A) read his post or B) respond to them.
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Under normal circumstances, a person with an extreme point of view would make his own threads, or make his points primarily in relevant threads. Then we could have threads with titles like "Solich is the best coach in the MAC" or "Time for Solich to retire?". Then people interested in one discussion or the other would open those threads, while those not interested would bypass them.

Had this been what happened, I would entirely agree with your point above, but that's not the way it happened. Instead, if someone wanted to talk about Civil war history, or hamburger prices, the thread would get thread-jacked, not to some random, partially related topic like pizza specials, but to a specific, targeted topic.

That made it impossible for anyone to read the forum in any thread without someone being in their face, and without the constant conflict. Many people found that unpleasant. It's not those that argued with Monroe that left, by the way. Most of those people are still here. It's the ones that came here for a pleasant diversion, perhaps contributed to a discussion here or there, while the dropped in, that left. When someone was in their face, in every thread, BA ceased to be a pleasant diversion for them. I bet if you looked at people that used to visit, but who no longer do, most of them have between 50-300 posts.

To me, it's a simple matter of manners. Suppose you had a party at your house every month. Suppose that as soon as each guest arrived, one guest made it a habit to get in their face and rant about some topic, and the same guest did the same thing each month. After awhile, people would stop thinking the parties were fun, and stop coming. That leaves you two choices, really. Stop having parties, or stop inviting that one guest.
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Sam bobcat
7/5/2017 1:35 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Personally I've always gotten along with Monroe, and he never bothered me, but I know that he did bother a lot of people. That is the sad part.
I never understood why people just didn't exercise restraint. No one is forcing anyone to either A) read his post or B) respond to them.

But it was like people were addicts. They just couldn't lay off. Perfect example....this thread and it's title.

While I might not have agreed with everything he said .... I think it's sad that anyone that doesn't have a super-duper positive outlook on all things Bobcat football are looked at as traitors or enemies.

There are plenty of bizarro-Monroe's on this board that are way over the top with their drooling over Solich and this program.

To me, they are more annoying than Monroe ever was.

But I choose to ignore them at times and I'm okay with that.

Everyone is entitled their opinion ... even if it is blasted over and over and over and over again. Pretty easy just to skip over it and move on with your day. But seems that folks just took the bait all the time with him thinking THEY WERE GOING TO BE THE ONE TO CHANGE HIS MIND/SHUT HIM UP. At some point, you just have to let it go.

Sad it came to banning him from this site.

I don't see why everyone else is expected to apply restraint. The single largest contributor to lack of restraint was Monroe. So he is now the victim and all of the rest of us are unrestrained? Monroe's opinions should be listened to, over and over, but our opinions about him should be kept to ourselves? I feel like he showed more of an addiction to tear down anything positive said about the program than anyone else did to the contrary.
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ShoreCat
7/5/2017 1:44 PM
I appreciated his passion for the university and desire to win. But in addition to this site being a great site for information, it's also a great diversion from the day-to-day grind, and it's safe to assume that many of us are visiting this site during the day when we should be working. Therefore, it's supposed to be FUN. Just like fantasy sports, this site for me is a fun diversion. I'm all for debate and voicing and hearing opposite opinions, but my main reason for coming here is simply because I enjoy it. I hope some people who left the site find their way back.
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Ghostof WalterWhite
7/5/2017 2:01 PM
Good riddance.
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cc-cat
7/5/2017 3:25 PM
Monroe publicly acknowledge his interest was to have Solish fired (fine - that is his right and opinion) but he also made it clear his intent was not to reach out to Schaus and the administration, but rather to use this site to convert others to his point of view -- to convince others (using his "facts" and 10,000 posts) to create a groundswell consensus that would then lead to the obvious need for Solich to be let go.

Rather then creating a firesolich.com website to fight his fight, he used this site, and most threads within it, to forward his agenda and to house his firesolich.com (and combat any and all that did not agree 100%).

I have no animus towards Monroe, but I do feel his personal interest was smothering this site. He is perfectly free and able to start his own website to forward his own agenda - and folks here are free to follow it....or not. A mature alternative (as suggested by LC) would have been for him to create a "Fire Solich" thread that could have housed 9,500+ of his posts - and he could bump, +1, and respond to his own posts at will - while leaving the other threads for their intended discussion.

My only concern is the admins will treat this as an "off-season" suspension (ala Alabama suspending a starter for the opening game against Ark-little rock) rather than a ban.

Time to move on. O.U. - Oh Yea!
Last Edited: 7/5/2017 3:44:24 PM by cc-cat
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OhioBobcat
7/5/2017 3:51 PM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
I think Monroe got exactly what he wanted.
Minus the MACC. ;)
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Doc Bobcat
7/5/2017 4:01 PM
You can reach him at

NMSFLL@yahoo.com
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OhioCatFan
7/5/2017 4:02 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I'm all for lively discussion and differences of opinion, but this board plays more than just as a forum for athletics.


Amen. Where else do you get comments about bike lanes on East State Street, the price of a hamburger on Tuesday before 8 at McDonalds and military strategy and social engagement during the War of Northern Aggression all of the same board?


Photo of Ohio University Archives 150th Civl War Anniversary display:



And, Alan, for your further edification: http://tinyurl.com/ya4f2olj

Please go back and look at my original response to your incendiary post, compliments of Ryan there is now an interesting photo there. In saying "incendiary" I'm saying so with a smile, not a frown. Boy, do I miss the emoticons we used to be able use.

Last Edited: 7/6/2017 12:50:33 AM by OhioCatFan
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Alan Swank
7/5/2017 4:33 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I'm all for lively discussion and differences of opinion, but this board plays more than just as a forum for athletics.


Amen. Where else do you get comments about bike lanes on East State Street, the price of a hamburger on Tuesday before 8 at McDonalds and military strategy and social engagement during the War of Northern Aggression all of the same board?


Photo of Ohio University Archives 150th Civl War Anniversary display:
And, Alan, for your further edification: http://tinyurl.com/ya4f2olj

Please go back and look at my original response to your incendiary post, compliments of Ryan there is now an interesting photo there. In saying "incendiary" I'm saying so with a smile, not a frown. Boy, do I miss the emoticons we used to be able use.
This is exactly what makes this the best "sports" board in the state.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
7/5/2017 7:47 PM
I will continue the fight for a new coach.....when Solich is ready to step aside. Don't get me wrong, there is some validation to the Solich situation, as I think he is Doug Collins....good coach but can't get The MACC. That said, he has earned the right to continue til he's ready to step aside. Along those lines, you can't thread jack at will and ramrod the agenda down everyone's throat. And the only way I've learned to get something done in anything is show up with money. Money talks big time.
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CA Bobcat
7/5/2017 10:29 PM
Monroe is/was a jerk. As many have already stated, opinions are opinions and sharing yours is absolutely fine. Sharing it a few times or even many times when it's relevant to the conversation is appropriate. Hijacking every other thread and posting the same hijacking messages multiple times in the same thread = jerk. Bye

P.S. - I lurked on the board for 10+ years and it was Monroe who motivated me to post...cuz I don't like bullies.
Last Edited: 7/5/2017 10:30:32 PM by CA Bobcat
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Paul Graham
7/6/2017 1:26 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
During the last few years, the number of posts, visitors, and page views to BA has dropped substantially, and that no doubt means BA has a lot less revenue than before, and my guess is that now it is probably losing money.
I would guess that this has nothing to do with Monroe, and more to do with the mundanity of having the same coaching staff and approximately the same results for the last 6 or 7 years.
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L.C.
7/6/2017 3:16 AM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
During the last few years, the number of posts, visitors, and page views to BA has dropped substantially, and that no doubt means BA has a lot less revenue than before, and my guess is that now it is probably losing money.
I would guess that this has nothing to do with Monroe, and more to do with the mundanity of having the same coaching staff and approximately the same results for the last 6 or 7 years.

It's possible. And yet, game attendance hasn't fallen, so the dynamic here seems to be different than the dynamic at the stadium.
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Bcat2
7/6/2017 7:48 AM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
During the last few years, the number of posts, visitors, and page views to BA has dropped substantially, and that no doubt means BA has a lot less revenue than before, and my guess is that now it is probably losing money.
I would guess that this has nothing to do with Monroe, and more to do with the mundanity of having the same coaching staff and approximately the same results for the last 6 or 7 years.
Well Paul. Steele provides current decade results for teams. Seems Ohio is third best in the MAC, current decade, behind NIU & Toledo. Paul, most who have been around Ohio Football any length of time think that is fine. It aren't broke. Monroe wore out his welcome. BA is a better place. JMHO.
Last Edited: 7/6/2017 7:56:07 AM by Bcat2
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ShoreCat
7/6/2017 10:24 AM
I was in Athens from 1990-1995 and we had the same results for those 5 years. Say what you want about having the same results under Solich but his same results are a lot different than the results I witnessed as a student.
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SBH
7/6/2017 10:52 AM
The Monroe experience wasn't simply the incessant stream of negativism; most of his material also featured ad hominem attacks on other posters. And then the behind-the-scenes, nasty PMs...

I can only assume he has taken his talents to Twitter.
Last Edited: 7/6/2017 10:53:13 AM by SBH
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
7/6/2017 11:13 AM
Messages boards that have and don't have Monroe — his irritating tendencies aside — contributing have been dying for years now.
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Alan Swank
7/6/2017 12:11 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
During the last few years, the number of posts, visitors, and page views to BA has dropped substantially, and that no doubt means BA has a lot less revenue than before, and my guess is that now it is probably losing money.
I would guess that this has nothing to do with Monroe, and more to do with the mundanity of having the same coaching staff and approximately the same results for the last 6 or 7 years.
Paul, most who have been around Ohio Football any length of time think that is fine.
It's exactly this thought that drove Monroe crazy and others too. With the amount of student fees that we've spent since 2005, an occasional championship is expected.
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The Optimist
7/6/2017 12:44 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
I think it's sad that anyone that doesn't have a super-duper positive outlook on all things Bobcat football are looked at as traitors or enemies.

"Drink Green Kool-Aid and they will come."
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C Money
7/6/2017 12:55 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Photo of Ohio University Archives 150th Civl War Anniversary display:
Is posting embedded pictures back???????????


Edit: Awww....apparently not....
Last Edited: 7/6/2017 12:56:03 PM by C Money
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Bcat2
7/6/2017 2:19 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
During the last few years, the number of posts, visitors, and page views to BA has dropped substantially, and that no doubt means BA has a lot less revenue than before, and my guess is that now it is probably losing money.
I would guess that this has nothing to do with Monroe, and more to do with the mundanity of having the same coaching staff and approximately the same results for the last 6 or 7 years.
Paul, most who have been around Ohio Football any length of time think that is fine.
It's exactly this thought that drove Monroe crazy and others too. With the amount of student fees that we've spent since 2005, an occasional championship is expected.
Sir Alan. You conveniently deleted the part about Ohio being third in the MAC current decade behind NIU and Toledo. Note that Ohio currently holds scoreboard over those two. Seems coach Solich still owes you your MACC that you are so entitled. So close last year. You can hold your head high wearing Ohio gear.
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