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brucecuth
11/9/2017 12:52 PM
if it had not decided two years ago to abandon coverage of Ohio and the MAC...

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/ohio-bobca...
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Recovering Journalist
11/9/2017 1:23 PM
Thanks for sharing a nice piece.

The Dispatch is worthy of plenty of contempt, but having worked in newspapers, I’m inclined to cut them slack here. The harsh truth is that newspapers today run on threadbare staffs and have to do what sells. I’d love to see the Plain Dealer devote more time to the MAC, but we’re frankly lucky to have Elton Alexander’s lazy half eye on it. Just look at comments and pageviews. He did a recap of the game last night, and it has ZERO comments as of right now. http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2017/11...

Meanwhile, they’ve done no less than 10 stories about O$U’s blowout loss at Iowa. I hate it, but I’m in the small minority.

The Dispatch ignores the MAC because it has finite resources and/or not enough readers give a damn about it. They’re not doing this out of a conspiracy. They cover and write what generates clicks. If you want more coverage in media, click on it, share it, comment on it and otherwise support it. A good place to start is by subscribing to the Messenger, where Jason Arkley is providing big-time coverage on his own and on a shoestring.
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brucecuth
11/9/2017 1:45 PM
I hear ya, RJ. I know that, particularly under Gatehouse, tough decisions were made. It appears to me that there was a choice between h.s. sports coverage, and coverage of college sports other than OSU, a choice made necessary by staff and resource cuts. The paper does a reasonable job on h.s. athletics, but the price was a cutback on local and state colleges, at least that's how I view it.
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Antonio Pierce
11/9/2017 2:40 PM
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
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OUcats82
11/9/2017 3:04 PM
Antonio Pierce wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
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89Cat
11/9/2017 3:22 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
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A-townBound
11/9/2017 3:52 PM
89Cat wrote:expand_more
When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
The media guide states - "When referring to the Bobcats, please use Ohio. Ohio
University is acceptable when using other institutions’ full
names. Please do not use Ohio U. or OU. Thank you."
Last Edited: 11/9/2017 3:53:28 PM by A-townBound
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Pataskala
11/9/2017 4:29 PM
I'm glad they didn't compare us to Boise or UCF or USF or whoever. When SI did that in 2012, we tanked the rest of the year.

I really miss Mark Znidar's Tuesday column in the Dispatch where he looked at non-O$U teams from around the state. It at least acknowledged there are seven other 1A schools, a couple of 1AA schools and a boatload of smaller schools in Ohio. I don't know if they still run it in the hard copy edition, but it's not online.
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BillyTheCat
11/9/2017 8:45 PM
89Cat wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
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RPO R6V
11/9/2017 9:06 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
I care way too much about this. Even the "OU, Oh yeah!" thing bothers me, though I know I should just be glad some people are showing some enthusiasm.
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Mark Lembright '85
11/9/2017 9:34 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
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RPO R6V
11/10/2017 1:01 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
Last Edited: 11/10/2017 1:02:42 PM by RPO R6V
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Deciduous Forest Cat
11/10/2017 1:19 PM
RPO R6V wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
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Sam bobcat
11/10/2017 3:02 PM
RPO R6V wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
I care way too much about this. Even the "OU, Oh yeah!" thing bothers me, though I know I should just be glad some people are showing some enthusiasm.
Can someone explain why OU is not acceptable?
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RPO R6V
11/10/2017 3:47 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
You mean like the one on Gary Trent's shorts in the photo on the back of this card?
http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/58218/cid/3...
Last Edited: 11/10/2017 10:27:07 PM by RPO R6V
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Doc Bobcat
11/10/2017 4:36 PM
Sam bobcat wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=89Cat] [QUOTE=OUcats82] [QUOTE=Antonio Pierce] The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of O

Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
I care way too much about this. Even the "OU, Oh yeah!" thing bothers me, though I know I should just be glad some people are showing some enthusiasm.
Can someone explain why OU is not acceptable?
It seems to be a regional thing.

Most everyone in my neck of the woods (South and South Central Ahia) have always called us OU.

Not like they confuse us with Oklahoma.
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RPO R6V
11/12/2017 1:51 AM
RPO R6V wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
You mean like the one on Gary Trent's shorts in the photo on the back of this card?
http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/58218/cid/3...
Take your time apologising or at least admitting you were wrong. I'll wait.
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bshot44
11/12/2017 6:01 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
Appears Ohio athletics is the one who is drunk ... to no surprise.

10 o'clock proof

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/9d/1f/b49d1fead22adcb133a90f...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DJlOoEU0iCs/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/91/62/4e9162dc878a417c08f822...

2 o'clock proof

http://archive.org/stream/athena81ohio#page/70/mode/1up

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7410131...

https://archive.org/stream/athena89ohio#page/69/mode/1up

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/69/mo...

10 AND 2 o'clock!!!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/67/f2/2b67f201d1c657c4f8f0aa...

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/57/mo...
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Deciduous Forest Cat
11/12/2017 8:32 AM
You are all drunk.
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RPO R6V
11/12/2017 9:55 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
Appears Ohio athletics is the one who is drunk ... to no surprise.

10 o'clock proof

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/9d/1f/b49d1fead22adcb133a90f...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DJlOoEU0iCs/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/91/62/4e9162dc878a417c08f822...

2 o'clock proof

http://archive.org/stream/athena81ohio#page/70/mode/1up

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7410131...

https://archive.org/stream/athena89ohio#page/69/mode/1up

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/69/mo...

10 AND 2 o'clock!!!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/67/f2/2b67f201d1c657c4f8f0aa...

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/57/mo...
Fair enough, although I would say in that photo of Sammy Shon it's pointing to 12 o'clock if the towel were hanging straight, and in almost all of the 2 o'clock examples it's because apparently somebody decided to use 2 o'clock on one side of the helmet (and even jersey) and 10 o'clock on the other, so that the logo is always tilted "forward." The exception is that basketball jersey from 1980. Good find there. Goes to sho we were both wrong in a way and that the inconsistency (dare I say incompetence) of whoever is in charge of the identity and trademarks of the university and its athletic department goes back a long way.
Last Edited: 11/12/2017 9:56:09 AM by RPO R6V
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Tymaster
11/13/2017 8:52 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
Thanks for sharing a nice piece.

The Dispatch is worthy of plenty of contempt, but having worked in newspapers, I’m inclined to cut them slack here. The harsh truth is that newspapers today run on threadbare staffs and have to do what sells. I’d love to see the Plain Dealer devote more time to the MAC, but we’re frankly lucky to have Elton Alexander’s lazy half eye on it. Just look at comments and pageviews. He did a recap of the game last night, and it has ZERO comments as of right now. http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2017/11...

Meanwhile, they’ve done no less than 10 stories about O$U’s blowout loss at Iowa. I hate it, but I’m in the small minority.

The Dispatch ignores the MAC because it has finite resources and/or not enough readers give a damn about it. They’re not doing this out of a conspiracy. They cover and write what generates clicks. If you want more coverage in media, click on it, share it, comment on it and otherwise support it. A good place to start is by subscribing to the Messenger, where Jason Arkley is providing big-time coverage on his own and on a shoestring.

As loathe as I am for generally right leanings of the Dispatch (and they seem to have a real agenda with public education) you're correct on cutting them slack. How many people realize that the Dispatch headquarters is now in a small rented space that faces their own, former, iconic one? And really, in Franklin County and every county that touches Franklin County and every county that touches every county that touches Franklin County - they want exhaustive Buckeye coverage and nothing less will do. Where did Urban Meyer take his wife to dinner? Which former Buckeye got arrested? All that good stuff. The upside of the digital age of newspapers is that I can read about the Bobcats daily from my laptop, desktop, and cell phone and after reading my own local paper (I still pay for a subscription - I'm a big believer in local media) I can read the Dispatch, the Dayton Daily News, the Cincinnati Enquirer, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Toledo Blade, and the Akron Beacon Journal as well as the Athen's papers...
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OUcats82
11/13/2017 4:57 PM
Tymaster wrote:expand_more
Thanks for sharing a nice piece.

The Dispatch is worthy of plenty of contempt, but having worked in newspapers, I’m inclined to cut them slack here. The harsh truth is that newspapers today run on threadbare staffs and have to do what sells. I’d love to see the Plain Dealer devote more time to the MAC, but we’re frankly lucky to have Elton Alexander’s lazy half eye on it. Just look at comments and pageviews. He did a recap of the game last night, and it has ZERO comments as of right now. http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2017/11...

Meanwhile, they’ve done no less than 10 stories about O$U’s blowout loss at Iowa. I hate it, but I’m in the small minority.

The Dispatch ignores the MAC because it has finite resources and/or not enough readers give a damn about it. They’re not doing this out of a conspiracy. They cover and write what generates clicks. If you want more coverage in media, click on it, share it, comment on it and otherwise support it. A good place to start is by subscribing to the Messenger, where Jason Arkley is providing big-time coverage on his own and on a shoestring.

As loathe as I am for generally right leanings of the Dispatch (and they seem to have a real agenda with public education) you're correct on cutting them slack. How many people realize that the Dispatch headquarters is now in a small rented space that faces their own, former, iconic one? And really, in Franklin County and every county that touches Franklin County and every county that touches every county that touches Franklin County - they want exhaustive Buckeye coverage and nothing less will do. Where did Urban Meyer take his wife to dinner? Which former Buckeye got arrested? All that good stuff. The upside of the digital age of newspapers is that I can read about the Bobcats daily from my laptop, desktop, and cell phone and after reading my own local paper (I still pay for a subscription - I'm a big believer in local media) I can read the Dispatch, the Dayton Daily News, the Cincinnati Enquirer, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Toledo Blade, and the Akron Beacon Journal as well as the Athen's papers...
Definitely love the ability to read newspapers online. I too subscribe online to the Cincinnati Enquirer and the Knoxville News Sentinel (for their Tennessee Vols coverage). What's great about the online services is they are pretty consistent in offering 6-12 month subscriptions for maybe $15-30-pretty tough to beat. Would love to have several more but it adds up.

As far as saying, using "OU"....I have never told someone while here in Ohio that I went to OU and had them confuse it with Oklahoma. Usually it's like "Oh, the party school" or "oh, out in Athens?" something like that. When working/connecting with others out of the state for work I will usually say Ohio/Ohio University...then usually have to mention the MAC or something to make a connection for them. I will say that in my 10+ year professional career thus far I have to explain it far less than I did when I first graduated!
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RPO R6V
12/17/2017 11:41 AM
RPO R6V wrote:expand_more
The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
Someone should advise ohiobobcats.com and the College Bookstore of same; they sell a ton of Ohio merchandise with “OU” on it.
Speaking of the bookstore(s)... It drives me nuts that the university has allowed widespread use of the old paw logo once again. But at least do it right. I noticed now they have the paw angled the other way. When it was the official athletic logo, it was "pointing" toward 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, if you will, and now it "points" toward 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock. When I pointed this out to the College Bookstore, I was told that's how they have to use the trademark because that's how it appears in what that have been given by the university.
You need to lay off the drugs it has always been pointed towards about 2 o clock
Appears Ohio athletics is the one who is drunk ... to no surprise.

10 o'clock proof

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/9d/1f/b49d1fead22adcb133a90f...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DJlOoEU0iCs/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/91/62/4e9162dc878a417c08f822...

2 o'clock proof

http://archive.org/stream/athena81ohio#page/70/mode/1up

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7410131...

https://archive.org/stream/athena89ohio#page/69/mode/1up

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/69/mo...

10 AND 2 o'clock!!!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/67/f2/2b67f201d1c657c4f8f0aa...

https://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen75ohio#page/57/mo...
Fair enough, although I would say in that photo of Sammy Shon it's pointing to 12 o'clock if the towel were hanging straight, and in almost all of the 2 o'clock examples it's because apparently somebody decided to use 2 o'clock on one side of the helmet (and even jersey) and 10 o'clock on the other, so that the logo is always tilted "forward." The exception is that basketball jersey from 1980. Good find there. Goes to sho we were both wrong in a way and that the inconsistency (dare I say incompetence) of whoever is in charge of the identity and trademarks of the university and its athletic department goes back a long way.
The paw logo was always meant to point towards ten o'clock:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1015607444735...

From the Uptown Dog Facebook page:
Here's a fun fact....Ever notice in most of our Paw designs we have the paw turned a different way than most? That's because that's how it was originally created as OU's logo as seen here in a 1979-1980 basketball media guide....And here's another fun fact...it was created by our very own, artist Kevin Morgan when he was 14!!!For us, we go with the old school vintage look of the paw. No reason to change perfection 😄 That's one of the many things that makes us so unique! #vintagelook #dontchangeperfection #uniquedesigns #unbeatableprices #throwback #apparel #ohiouniversity #original
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Alan Swank
12/17/2017 12:26 PM
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The author, Bill Bender is a graduate of Ohio University and family friend of the Grobe family. Bill is a great guy.
I believe Bender wrote for The Post during my time in Athens.

With brevity seemingly the name of the game, Old Elton sure can always still squeeze in "University" after our name. Because everyone who reads the PD and sees "Ohio beats Toledo in Football" is going to get confused that Ohio State played Toledo on a Wednesday night. It's not technically wrong, but he's anything but consistent with using the full name. "Ohio University beats Kent State in basketball." "Ohio University tops Akron"

In case anyone is wondering the answer is yes-I always gripe against this subject when the opportunity presents its self on here. And yes, I know a lot of people are not bothered by it.
1+ When referring to Ohio Athletics, the media is to use "Ohio" or "OU" But not Ohio U. or Ohio University. That is printed in our media guide.
Yeah, not sure where you get that, the use of OU as acceptable has been out the window for quite sometime.
I care way too much about this. Even the "OU, Oh yeah!" thing bothers me, though I know I should just be glad some people are showing some enthusiasm.
Can someone explain why OU is not acceptable?
Because Thomas Boeh said so - same with the PAW. Ironically I just picked up a couple round lapel pins from the alumni association that say "Ohio University Alumni" with a paw in the middle.
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12/17/2017 2:12 PM
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Because Thomas Boeh said so - same with the PAW. Ironically I just picked up a couple round lapel pins from the alumni association that say "Ohio University Alumni" with a paw in the middle.
If you wear such a pin, not only will you be telling the world that you love generic logos, but you will be perpetuating a misunderstanding of Latin grammar. "Alumni" is masculine plural. Those pins in your case should say "Alumnus." For women, they should say "Alumna." A few years ago I was in a bookstore on an Ivy League campus and they had pins and bumper stickers that said both "alumnus" and "alumna." But, I guess in the Ivy League you're expected to know the basic 9th grade Latin grammar. Also, I've seen women's colleges that when they mean a single graduate use "alumna" and when they mean a group of graduates use "alumnae" (feminine plural).

My wife has a pin that says "Ohio University Emerita." Mine says "Ohio University Emeritus." So, at least some parts of the university get it right!
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