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Posted: 3/1/2018 3:47 PM
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While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
Nobody is comparing this to games in the "TV era." Go back to 2000 and all of our home games were on Saturday. That's what many are comparing this pathetic schedule to.
Even looking at 2000 attendance figures, it was about 800 fans more per game in 2000 with 5 Saturday home games* vs. last year with only 4 Saturday home games (and 2 weeknight games).

(*that included a Marshall game at the end of the year).

Attendance-number-wise, attendance between 2000 with no weeknight home games and last year with two weeknight home games is not that dramatically different. (caveat: I know that reported attendance numbers do not equal real attendance, but it's the only official figure we have to go on)

It will be interesting to see how 2018 attendance pans out because of this schedule. I certainly think it will impact attendance, but we'll need to see by just how much.
In 2000 that was people through the turnstiles. In 2018 it's like the Ohio Lottery - whichever five numbers pop out.
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While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
Meanwhile, the Sun Belt, which is a comparable conference for us, just inked a deal with ESPN that puts every single football and basketball game on ESPN, be it digital or cable networks. Also part of the deal: MORE SATURDAY GAMES.

I don't know how much more money the MAC is making than the Sun Belt on it's current deal, but that's not a good look for the conference when another comparable conference gets a deal to give themselves more Saturday games than you have. God the MAC office sucks so bad.

That may put more of their games on ESPN3, but who cares. It's 2018. I'd rather watch a packed Saturday home game on ESPN3 than some half full midweek crap on ESPNU.
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bshot44 wrote:expand_more
While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
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GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Meanwhile, the Sun Belt, which is a comparable conference for us, just inked a deal with ESPN that puts every single football and basketball game on ESPN, be it digital or cable networks. Also part of the deal: MORE SATURDAY GAMES.

I don't know how much more money the MAC is making than the Sun Belt on it's current deal, but that's not a good look for the conference when another comparable conference gets a deal to give themselves more Saturday games than you have. God the MAC office sucks so bad.

That may put more of their games on ESPN3, but who cares. It's 2018. I'd rather watch a packed Saturday home game on ESPN3 than some half full midweek crap on ESPNU.
Where are you seeing it reported that there are "MORE SATURDAY GAMES"? I'm not seeing that in the reports nor the press release, but maybe there's another report out there I haven't seen.
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OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
Come on, Alan. Didn't you take any stats courses? You are talking about reducing something by one with a sample size of 4 to 5 and using percentages to make a case that it is a dramatic difference? Your math isn't wrong, but look at that list bshot44 posted and tell me using the eye test that there's a dramatic difference there.
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OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
Come on, Alan. Didn't you take any stats courses? You are talking about reducing something by one with a sample size of 4 to 5 and using percentages to make a case that it is a dramatic difference? Your math isn't wrong, but look at that list bshot44 posted and tell me using the eye test that there's a dramatic difference there.
Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
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Meanwhile, the Sun Belt, which is a comparable conference for us, just inked a deal with ESPN that puts every single football and basketball game on ESPN, be it digital or cable networks. Also part of the deal: MORE SATURDAY GAMES.

I don't know how much more money the MAC is making than the Sun Belt on it's current deal, but that's not a good look for the conference when another comparable conference gets a deal to give themselves more Saturday games than you have. God the MAC office sucks so bad.

That may put more of their games on ESPN3, but who cares. It's 2018. I'd rather watch a packed Saturday home game on ESPN3 than some half full midweek crap on ESPNU.
Where are you seeing it reported that there are "MORE SATURDAY GAMES"? I'm not seeing that in the reports nor the press release, but maybe there's another report out there I haven't seen.
Conference commissioner made mention of it during a teleconference with the media. Specifically pointed out that they wanted to maintain a Saturday presence while also using weeknight games.

They are also going to be using the new ESPN Plus. Which I haven't read enough about to determine how that differs from ESPN3.
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Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Especially now that you are free to site anywhere on the student side with a family pack. I'll likely be dropping Phillips Club seats and sitting in the Phillips Club on the other side for a 75% discount. A good friend of ours just did the same.
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Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Especially now that you are free to site anywhere on the student side with a family pack. I'll likely be dropping Phillips Club seats and sitting in the Phillips Club on the other side for a 75% discount. A good friend of ours just did the same.
Was there an announcement that I missed that Family Pack is GA on the student side this coming year?
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Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Especially now that you are free to site anywhere on the student side with a family pack. I'll likely be dropping Phillips Club seats and sitting in the Phillips Club on the other side for a 75% discount. A good friend of ours just did the same.
Was there an announcement that I missed that Family Pack is GA on the student side this coming year?

As a season ticket holder, I was emailed from the athletic department.
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Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Especially now that you are free to site anywhere on the student side with a family pack. I'll likely be dropping Phillips Club seats and sitting in the Phillips Club on the other side for a 75% discount. A good friend of ours just did the same.
You've always been free to sit anywhere on the student side (excepting the band-reserved seating and the by-the-field sections) with any ticket to pedan. The student sections are all GA seating, no enforcement of specific seats.
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As a season ticket holder, I was emailed from the athletic department.
Same. Suspect that might be a decision they regret if too many follow suit.
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I thought some sections on the student side were not GA, meaning they weren't meant for students. I don't think it works the other way, does it? Like I can buy individual seats in certain sections on the student side? And students don't have free reign of that entire side?
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I thought some sections on the student side were not GA, meaning they weren't meant for students. I don't think it works the other way, does it? Like I can buy individual seats in certain sections on the student side? And students don't have free reign of that entire side?
Maybe? I don't know. I've never had any problem sitting wherever I want on the student side (typically the section North of the band, if I'm correctly oriented in my head) using family pack tickets.
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Meanwhile, the Sun Belt, which is a comparable conference for us, just inked a deal with ESPN that puts every single football and basketball game on ESPN, be it digital or cable networks. Also part of the deal: MORE SATURDAY GAMES.

I don't know how much more money the MAC is making than the Sun Belt on it's current deal, but that's not a good look for the conference when another comparable conference gets a deal to give themselves more Saturday games than you have. God the MAC office sucks so bad.

That may put more of their games on ESPN3, but who cares. It's 2018. I'd rather watch a packed Saturday home game on ESPN3 than some half full midweek crap on ESPNU.
Where are you seeing it reported that there are "MORE SATURDAY GAMES"? I'm not seeing that in the reports nor the press release, but maybe there's another report out there I haven't seen.
Conference commissioner made mention of it during a teleconference with the media. Specifically pointed out that they wanted to maintain a Saturday presence while also using weeknight games.

They are also going to be using the new ESPN Plus. Which I haven't read enough about to determine how that differs from ESPN3.
Thanks for letting me know about the teleconference. I listened to it and what I heard was that they wanted to keep Saturday games while providing 2-3 midweek games for ESPN TV content. The Sun Belt's 2018 schedule does not have any mid-week games scheduled on Saturdays in November, while the MAC has 15 mid-week games in November listed as potential national TV games. It sounds like the Sun Belt will be scheduling more mid-week games in the future, so it remains to be seen if they will actually have more Saturday games. In 2018, there is at least one MAC team playing every Saturday.

This sounds like a good deal for the Sun Belt and very similar to the MAC deal, but I'm not sure it is a better deal than the MAC. ESPN Plus is a $5/mo paywall to access certain games/sports. The Sun Belt didn't know what content would be behind that paywall, but if that happened to us, many of us would probably not be happy with the MAC about it.
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Meanwhile, the Sun Belt, which is a comparable conference for us, just inked a deal with ESPN that puts every single football and basketball game on ESPN, be it digital or cable networks. Also part of the deal: MORE SATURDAY GAMES.

I don't know how much more money the MAC is making than the Sun Belt on it's current deal, but that's not a good look for the conference when another comparable conference gets a deal to give themselves more Saturday games than you have. God the MAC office sucks so bad.

That may put more of their games on ESPN3, but who cares. It's 2018. I'd rather watch a packed Saturday home game on ESPN3 than some half full midweek crap on ESPNU.
Where are you seeing it reported that there are "MORE SATURDAY GAMES"? I'm not seeing that in the reports nor the press release, but maybe there's another report out there I haven't seen.
Conference commissioner made mention of it during a teleconference with the media. Specifically pointed out that they wanted to maintain a Saturday presence while also using weeknight games.

They are also going to be using the new ESPN Plus. Which I haven't read enough about to determine how that differs from ESPN3.
Thanks for letting me know about the teleconference. I listened to it and what I heard was that they wanted to keep Saturday games while providing 2-3 midweek games for ESPN TV content. The Sun Belt's 2018 schedule does not have any mid-week games scheduled on Saturdays in November, while the MAC has 15 mid-week games in November listed as potential national TV games. It sounds like the Sun Belt will be scheduling more mid-week games in the future, so it remains to be seen if they will actually have more Saturday games. In 2018, there is at least one MAC team playing every Saturday.

This sounds like a good deal for the Sun Belt and very similar to the MAC deal, but I'm not sure it is a better deal than the MAC. ESPN Plus is a $5/mo paywall to access certain games/sports. The Sun Belt didn't know what content would be behind that paywall, but if that happened to us, many of us would probably not be happy with the MAC about it.
I'm actually kind of surprised the MAC hasn't, and wouldn't be surprised if a lot of MAC content got pushed to ESPN Plus in the future.

Just took a gander at Appalachian State's schedule. They have TWO midweek games scheduled for the entire season, the rest are on Saturdays. And both of those midweek games are on the road. Their home schedule isn't great either though.

I don't know how the Sun Belt would potentially change more games to midweek if the schedules have already been released. That would make hell for a lot of people to change things only a couple weeks in advance.
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I don't think the Sun Belt will change any games to mid-week in 2018, but with this new deal, 2019 and beyond will likely see more mid-week games. I don't know that ESPN could put MAC content behind a paywall if that wasn't written into the contract.
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I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
Exactly. Some people will find a reason to complain about anything though.
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While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
Come on, Alan. Didn't you take any stats courses? You are talking about reducing something by one with a sample size of 4 to 5 and using percentages to make a case that it is a dramatic difference? Your math isn't wrong, but look at that list bshot44 posted and tell me using the eye test that there's a dramatic difference there.
Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Talk about dramatic lol
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While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
Come on, Alan. Didn't you take any stats courses? You are talking about reducing something by one with a sample size of 4 to 5 and using percentages to make a case that it is a dramatic difference? Your math isn't wrong, but look at that list bshot44 posted and tell me using the eye test that there's a dramatic difference there.
Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Talk about dramatic lol
No kidding. Some of you guys are like a bunch of 12 year old girls. Stay home and watch iCarly.
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Sam bobcat wrote:expand_more
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
Exactly. Some people will find a reason to complain about anything though.
And, BA attracts these folks like honey attracts flies.

Not excluding myself in this, either. I’ve been known to complain about a thing or two every now and then. ;-)
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While this schedule is not ideal, it's not dramatically different from 10 years ago when we only had 4 Saturday home games. NIU only has 3 Saturday home games this year and Western only has 2.

I guess if you have a 100K+ seat stadium like Ohio State, you can host 7 Saturday home games...
In 2008 you only had 5 home games ... and 4 were on Saturday. And that is because they chose to play 3 road games in out-of-conference. It was a much different era for Ohio football ... when they were willing to go play Ohio St, Northwestern and Wyoming on the road.

They are NOT willing to schedule like that anymore.

In 2018, they have 6 home games ... and only three on Saturday.

50% compared to 80% in 2008.

Not even a comparison.

2008: 5 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2009: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... two total midweek
2010: 6 home games, 5 Saturday ... three total midweek
2011: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2012: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2013: 7 home games, 5 Saturday ... four total midweek
2014: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... three total midweek
2015: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2016: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2017: 6 home games, 4 Saturday ... four total midweek
2018: 6 home games, 3 Saturday ... four total midweek

Things started going downhill in 2011 with the four midweek games.

But in 2013 ... they somehow found a way to have 7 home games ... 5 at home ... and still play four midweek games!

2018 is the opposite end of that spectrum.

This. Schedule. Sucks. Period.
I'm not disagreeing with the quality of the schedule, I'm pointing out that the pattern has not changed that dramatically in the last 10 years and that the 2018 doesn't vary all that much from that. You listing this all out supports that point. It looks pretty consistent to me -- 6 total home games, 4 Saturday games, 3-4 midweek games.
4 reduced to 3 is 25%. 5 reduced to 3 is 40%. That's pretty dramatic.
Come on, Alan. Didn't you take any stats courses? You are talking about reducing something by one with a sample size of 4 to 5 and using percentages to make a case that it is a dramatic difference? Your math isn't wrong, but look at that list bshot44 posted and tell me using the eye test that there's a dramatic difference there.
Big enough difference that my season tickets on the 50 on the aisle are now available. Buying a family pack this year. I'm sure others will do the same or maybe not even buy a family pack.
Talk about dramatic lol
No kidding. Some of you guys are like a bunch of 12 year old girls. Stay home and watch iCarly.
My daughter whines less than some of these fans. (But she's tough for 15)
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Going back and forth from mid-week to weekend games is what leads to the short weeks, which I think are a bad idea. My suggestion is this: split the MAC into two groups for purposes of mid-week games. Then you could end up with something like this:
Even numbered years: East teams play only mid-week games in November, while West teams play only Saturday games
Odd numbered years: East teams play only Saturday games in November, while West teams play only mid-week games in November

You would still have years with only 4 Saturday home games, but they would be only every other year, with 6 Saturday home games the other years. The average of 5 would be a substantial improvement over the current 4.
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I thought some sections on the student side were not GA, meaning they weren't meant for students. I don't think it works the other way, does it? Like I can buy individual seats in certain sections on the student side? And students don't have free reign of that entire side?
Maybe? I don't know. I've never had any problem sitting wherever I want on the student side (typically the section North of the band, if I'm correctly oriented in my head) using family pack tickets.
Not saying they'll call you on it (I have no idea - I'm willing to pay decent $ to sit in decent seats to support the school that I love) - but if you do not have a ticket for the seat that you are sitting in... It's reasonable that you may be asked to go sit in your actual seat. I know this may be hard to comprehend for a few here...

Only at Ohio University, that some of OUr fans are so petty, that they're trying to legitimately turn corner seats into 50 yard line seats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H_zeJ2c3Eg

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PS I don't love certain ticket changes this year either. I would totally prefer 6 Saturday home games starting between 1 & 7pm - but chances are - they're decisions made at least partly because of prolonged periods of cheap-assery surrounding Ohio athletics. If the amount of people that love/enjoy Ohio University, supported the school like they do Apple, Starbucks, MK, BW3, Panera, Time Warner, etc, the university might not be scrounging for every dollar like they have to right now.
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