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Posted: 7/11/2025 8:22 PM
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Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.
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Posted: 7/11/2025 10:09 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.
You totally, as usual, missed the point. Not one media report eluded to the fact that they had actually contacted anyone in Athens as to the accuracy of this report. Poor reporting. My comment has nothing to do with communication from Cutler or the Convo.
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Posted: 7/11/2025 10:24 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.

Ohio U did make inquiries to the SBC either directly to the SBC office or through a SBC member school. My guess is that your president contacted Appy since she was a former employee at Appy. You notice that Ohio U has never officially denied any contact with the SBC or one of its members. Ohio U stated in the Columbus Dispatch article that the Harrisonburg newspaper article was "inaccurate". Ohio U never stated that article was completely false.

My guess is that Ohio U was kicking the tires to test the waters which is a smart move for Ohio U and any G5 in the current state of college athletics. Nothing wrong about that. I doubt Ohio U was trying to join the SBC at this time, just testing the waters.

With the current split between the East SBC and West SBC schools, a major revamp of the SBC was not going to happen at this time. It takes 10 schools to approve any new member and the those votes were not going to be possible with the WEST SBC set against Ohio U or WKU.

IF (BIG IF) the AAC folds in the future, don't be surprise to see ECU and another member or two from the AAC join a new conference with the SBC East members.
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Posted: 7/12/2025 5:54 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.
You totally, as usual, missed the point. Not one media report eluded to the fact that they had actually contacted anyone in Athens as to the accuracy of this report. Poor reporting. My comment has nothing to do with communication from Cutler or the Convo.
Take a deep breath. It's gonna be okay.
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Posted: 7/12/2025 2:47 PM
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700WLW is spending quite a bit of time discussing this.
In the 10 years I lived in Cincinnati I don't think I ever heard Ohio University mentioned on 700 WLW. Maybe the 2012 NCAA Tournament run or and a random interview with Thom Brenneman, but that's probably it.
Should have been listening that day. Because it was 30 min.
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Posted: 7/12/2025 3:10 PM
According to some reports, La. Tech to be voted on Monday by SBC.
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Posted: 7/12/2025 7:44 PM
"After 12 years in Conference USA, Louisiana Tech appears headed for a new home.

The Sun Belt will hold a meeting Monday that is expected to end with the league inviting the Bulldogs to join, according to a Friday evening report from ESPN's Pete Thamel that cited the Daily News-Record in Harrisonburg, Va.

The Bulldogs have played major college football on and off since 1975, and have in that time called four different conferences home: the Southland Conference, Big West, WAC and Conference USA. Its basketball teams—including its two-time national champion women's squad—have spent time in those four leagues as well as the long-defunct American South Conference.

Louisiana Tech's football team made its first bowl game in four years in 2024, while neither basketball team has made an NCAA tournament since 2011.

In the Sun Belt, the Bulldogs will reunite with rivals such as Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe and Southern Miss."


As the post above mentioned, La. Tech appears to be headed to Sun Belt.
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Posted: 7/12/2025 9:21 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.
You totally, as usual, missed the point. Not one media report eluded to the fact that they had actually contacted anyone in Athens as to the accuracy of this report. Poor reporting. My comment has nothing to do with communication from Cutler or the Convo.
Take a deep breath. It's gonna be okay.
So much for that rumor.
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Posted: 7/13/2025 10:08 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.
Anytime anything even remotely notable happens with Ohio athletics this board harps on the lack of communication from the university. I don't know that lack of comment from the university means much, either way.
You totally, as usual, missed the point. Not one media report eluded to the fact that they had actually contacted anyone in Athens as to the accuracy of this report. Poor reporting. My comment has nothing to do with communication from Cutler or the Convo.
Take a deep breath. It's gonna be okay.
So much for that rumor.
I do not understand why you are saying this to me.
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Posted: 7/13/2025 12:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Alan Swank]
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.

IF (BIG IF) the AAC folds in the future, don't be surprise to see ECU and another member or two from the AAC join a new conference with the SBC East members.
Temple plans to join UMass in the MAC East
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Posted: 7/13/2025 1:32 PM
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[QUOTE=Alan Swank]
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.

IF (BIG IF) the AAC folds in the future, don't be surprise to see ECU and another member or two from the AAC join a new conference with the SBC East members.
Temple plans to join UMass in the MAC East
I know that you being sarcastic again, but while this is very unlikely, it isn't insane to think of a way that this could happen, and I also wouldn't tab it as outlandish as the Ohio to the SEC comment you made. If Memphis and another school or two like Tulane and Tulsa go to the Pac then you might actually see schools like ECU, Charlotte, South Florida, and FAU looking at the Sunbelt. If an long term Sunbelt East\West break is as plausible as I have heard many posters and media say that it might be then maybe Rice, UTSA, UNT and whatever schools I listed that didn't go to the Pac join up with the SB West then what does Temple do at that point? WSU and OrSU deciding to rebuild the Pac 12 instead of just joining the MWC could lead to scenarios where the whole G6 scene just becomes as broadly and suddenly completely unstable.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 8:02 AM
It's a massive what if, but:

While we talk here about the MAC footprint, the culture here, the ties to regional rivals, and the wish to cut dead wood,

There are four newish additions to the Sun Belt in their geographic northeast that are getting another miserable Louisiana school rammed down their gullets. They are looking at footprint, culture, ties that bind, and dead wood.

And never, NEVER, put it past ESPN to be complicit in realignment matters.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 8:38 AM
I just sit and watch all these moves, and my overwhelming reaction is that the B1G and the SEC keep getting more powerful, while most conferences are aggressively fighting over the crumbs. Meanwhile, the MAC has mostly been sleeping through the whole thing, but the loss of NIU was a jolt, which could lead to more reaction. Other teams could bolt, or, the MAC could decide to try to grow. It could go either way.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 10:31 AM
Officially La Tech, per Pete Thamel at ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/45737935/l...
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Posted: 7/14/2025 10:32 AM
I wonder how long it's gonna take Western Kentucky to get sick of CUSA adding FCS school after FCS school before they finally make a move and leave Middle Tennessee behind.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 10:36 AM
Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
It's a massive what if, but:

While we talk here about the MAC footprint, the culture here, the ties to regional rivals, and the wish to cut dead wood,

There are four newish additions to the Sun Belt in their geographic northeast that are getting another miserable Louisiana school rammed down their gullets. They are looking at footprint, culture, ties that bind, and dead wood.

And never, NEVER, put it past ESPN to be complicit in realignment matters.
Correct the four schools located in NC; WV and Virginia were against this addition. They were force into accepting a 14th member for scheduling purposes. The new addition does nothing for their vision/desires for the future of the conference.

FWIW: Edit: from a very reliable in the know SBC message board poster.
"Virginia Schools and Marshall were against a La Techa addition, however the vote was unanimous as under Sun Belt rules all teams are approved via unanimous vote."

EDIT: Apparently Appy was a no vote for LA Tech, but folded on Thursday and decided to vote for LA Tech which gave them vote they needed for membership.
Last Edited: 7/14/2025 1:48:51 PM by Flat Tire
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Posted: 7/14/2025 12:48 PM
My thoughts are Ohio wants to keep their options open depending on what happens with the MAC the next few years and a few of the eastern Sun Belt schools like the possibility of Ohio joining them based on their football and basketball profile.

Nothing appears to be close to happening but developing a relationship is a good thing so they can be proactive if necessary down the road.

Ohio would be a really good fit for the Sun Belt if they ever expand to 16 teams and break into North/South or East/West divisions.

James Madison, Old Dominion, Marshall and App State would be good competition from a football standpoint. Add another school like WKU, Liberty or Toledo and you could have a nice G5 division for football.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 2:16 PM
With NIU headed out, now is the time for the MAC to push hard for WKU and somebody else to join the conference. If they don’t, we definitely need to keep our options open in the very near future.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 2:31 PM
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My thoughts are Ohio wants to keep their options open depending on what happens with the MAC the next few years and a few of the eastern Sun Belt schools like the possibility of Ohio joining them based on their football and basketball profile.

Nothing appears to be close to happening but developing a relationship is a good thing so they can be proactive if necessary down the road.

Ohio would be a really good fit for the Sun Belt if they ever expand to 16 teams and break into North/South or East/West divisions.

James Madison, Old Dominion, Marshall and App State would be good competition from a football standpoint. Add another school like WKU, Liberty or Toledo and you could have a nice G5 division for football.
I think the Sun Belt, PAC and Mountain West are gearing up for the next round of media rights expirations which happen around 2028-31. The shine on the AAC is wearing off and if you look at it's current roster, its a total mess of a conference that makes absolutely no sense from a geographic or rivalry standpoint. They've lost all of their best schools to bigger conferences and backfilled with basically small schools in big cities or a rival/travel partner for another league member.

When they signed their media rights deal in 2020, this was their roster:

Cincinnati
Houston
SMU
UCF
Tulane
Tulsa
Memphis
Navy
East Carolina
Temple
USF

They lost those top four and replaced them with: Charlotte (city), Florida Atlantic (travel partner with USF), North Texas (cityish), Rice (city), UAB (city), UTSA (city) and Army (rival with Navy).

Memphis has already looked into leaving and have stated their desire to be in the Big 12. Temple doesn't have the resources to compete at the level the AAC demands. East Carolina was rumored to be a Sun Belt target.

There's no way in hell the current AAC is getting another TV deal even close to what they got back in 2020, which was close to $1 Billion in total, $83 million annually. They'll be down in the dumps with the rest of the have nots more than they already are. More shakeups are going to happen, it's almost guaranteed. The MAC and Ohio better be prepared.
Last Edited: 7/14/2025 2:34:07 PM by GoCats105
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Posted: 7/14/2025 3:04 PM
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My thoughts are Ohio wants to keep their options open depending on what happens with the MAC the next few years and a few of the eastern Sun Belt schools like the possibility of Ohio joining them based on their football and basketball profile.

Nothing appears to be close to happening but developing a relationship is a good thing so they can be proactive if necessary down the road.

Ohio would be a really good fit for the Sun Belt if they ever expand to 16 teams and break into North/South or East/West divisions.

James Madison, Old Dominion, Marshall and App State would be good competition from a football standpoint. Add another school like WKU, Liberty or Toledo and you could have a nice G5 division for football.
ODU is an 8 hour bus trip from Athens. Traveling to ODU would probably require a flight. Liberty located in Lynchburg, Va. is at least a five hour plus bus trip from Athens. Liberty is relatively new to FBS football, but they are loaded with deep pockets. They hired Jamey Chadwell from Coastal Carolina a few seasons ago on a seven year deal for an average of $4 million per year. The head basketball coach made $1.4 million in 2023. The head baseball coach at Liberty makes over 400 K. Liberty has money to burn!
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Posted: 7/14/2025 3:21 PM
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[QUOTE=Alan Swank]
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.

IF (BIG IF) the AAC folds in the future, don't be surprise to see ECU and another member or two from the AAC join a new conference with the SBC East members.
Temple plans to join UMass in the MAC East
I know that you being sarcastic again, but while this is very unlikely, it isn't insane to think of a way that this could happen, and I also wouldn't tab it as outlandish as the Ohio to the SEC comment you made. If Memphis and another school or two like Tulane and Tulsa go to the Pac then you might actually see schools like ECU, Charlotte, South Florida, and FAU looking at the Sunbelt. If an long term Sunbelt East\West break is as plausible as I have heard many posters and media say that it might be then maybe Rice, UTSA, UNT and whatever schools I listed that didn't go to the Pac join up with the SB West then what does Temple do at that point? WSU and OrSU deciding to rebuild the Pac 12 instead of just joining the MWC could lead to scenarios where the whole G6 scene just becomes as broadly and suddenly completely unstable.
If the AAC actually folds, the following is far more realistic than anything the Sun Belt crazies are throwing around:

Buffalo
UConn
UMass
Temple
Army
Navy
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Posted: 7/14/2025 4:17 PM
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[QUOTE=Alan Swank]
Second, there has not been one quote from the OU president, AD, or board of trustees chair - just a bunch of folks with lots of time on their hands.

IF (BIG IF) the AAC folds in the future, don't be surprise to see ECU and another member or two from the AAC join a new conference with the SBC East members.
Temple plans to join UMass in the MAC East
I know that you being sarcastic again, but while this is very unlikely, it isn't insane to think of a way that this could happen, and I also wouldn't tab it as outlandish as the Ohio to the SEC comment you made. If Memphis and another school or two like Tulane and Tulsa go to the Pac then you might actually see schools like ECU, Charlotte, South Florida, and FAU looking at the Sunbelt. If an long term Sunbelt East\West break is as plausible as I have heard many posters and media say that it might be then maybe Rice, UTSA, UNT and whatever schools I listed that didn't go to the Pac join up with the SB West then what does Temple do at that point? WSU and OrSU deciding to rebuild the Pac 12 instead of just joining the MWC could lead to scenarios where the whole G6 scene just becomes as broadly and suddenly completely unstable.
If the AAC actually folds, the following is far more realistic than anything the Sun Belt crazies are throwing around:

Buffalo
UConn
UMass
Temple
Army
Navy
If Memphis leaves and the AAC loses all of its western members (Tulane; UNT; Ric and UTSA) to the PAC they still have a good core group if they keep Army and Navy; they still have eight members. They could pick another two teams. Buffalo/Umass don't bring much value. Uconn football only might be a possibility. Maybe Kit Kat/Garden KC can suggest the tenth member?
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Posted: 7/14/2025 4:22 PM
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My thoughts are Ohio wants to keep their options open depending on what happens with the MAC the next few years and a few of the eastern Sun Belt schools like the possibility of Ohio joining them based on their football and basketball profile.

Nothing appears to be close to happening but developing a relationship is a good thing so they can be proactive if necessary down the road.

Ohio would be a really good fit for the Sun Belt if they ever expand to 16 teams and break into North/South or East/West divisions.

James Madison, Old Dominion, Marshall and App State would be good competition from a football standpoint. Add another school like WKU, Liberty or Toledo and you could have a nice G5 division for football.
ODU is an 8 hour bus trip from Athens. Traveling to ODU would probably require a flight. Liberty located in Lynchburg, Va. is at least a five hour plus bus trip from Athens. Liberty is relatively new to FBS football, but they are loaded with deep pockets. They hired Jamey Chadwell from Coastal Carolina a few seasons ago on a seven year deal for an average of $4 million per year. The head basketball coach made $1.4 million in 2023. The head baseball coach at Liberty makes over 400 K. Liberty has money to burn!
It's 2025. If you want to have a D1 football program at this level, you need to spend money. If Ohio isn't prepared to do so, they can stick in the MAC and wait out whatever happens to the league and accept whatever mediocrity they have. That's a risk and could lead to even more schools surpassing them.

Or they can choose to be bold at some point and try to rise the G5 ranks. It could come back to kill them or help them pick up a little more legitimacy along the way.

The Sun Belt isn't a great league and I'm not saying it's the answer for several reasons but it's eastern schools are a class above the MAC right now. SBC football has been among the top G5 leagues the past three years from a metrics standpoint.

Realistically the MAC is closer to the FCS than it is the other levels of FBS. Half the schools in our conference could care less about football. I know Ohio will never drop down but I'm surprised some people would rather play Akron on Wednesday night in November in front of hundreds versus at least seeing what else is out there.

NIU is literally going to the Mountain West! I know they'll be in the Horizon for their other sports but we have to figure out how committed we are to athletics moving forward. The fact it was even a discussion proves Ohio's own athletic department isn't completely confident that the MAC is the way to go.

We're hypocrites if we say we want what's best for OU athletics but then talk down any possibility of changing conferences. I'd like more information before making my own opinion.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 5:42 PM
I was hoping the Ohio talks was a little more serious than what it ended up being. Kind of sounds like Ohio and Toledo were kicking the tires and letting some interest be known. It makes me wonder if the SBC East schools breakaway next round of realignment and will be looking for Ohio and Toledo to join them? Long shot but possible.

You take the SBCE 7 schools and add in any mix of Ohio, Toledo, WKU, and possibly Delaware and you have a pretty decent conference. It sounds outlandish, but a lot of people are speculating that this next round of realignment is going to be an absolute earthquake.
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