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ShoreCat
6/4/2025 4:02 PM
I'm curious if anybody has talked to players about what they think about this schedule. I'm pretty confident that none of them fear getting hurt. What do they think about switching Illinois for Ohio A&M? I'm guessing this team is up for the challenge
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
6/4/2025 4:57 PM
Agree, ShoreCat.

Also, let's call a spade a spade here: Solich and crew scheduled the way they did because of bowl eligibility and because they had contractual provisions for extensions and kickers based on win totals.

This whole injury risk thing is just a canard because saying "we'd rather play bad teams to make sure we qualify for the Bullsh*t Bowl and my auto-extension based on seasonal win totals kicks in" isn't good PR.

I can't for the life of me understand how people here think that the G5 should get autobids to the college football playoff while insisting over and over that playing the P5 is too dangerous because we're not on the same level as them.

We're either an FBS team or we're not. If Bobcat1996 is right, then we're not.
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OhioCatFan
6/4/2025 5:55 PM
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Yep, she's never just "our AD." She's "our female AD." That says it all. I'd love to watch a debate between the two. She'd run circles around his miserable ass.
It feels real weird being on the same side of an argument as you, old buddy.
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OhioCatFan
6/4/2025 5:59 PM
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Yep, she's never just "our AD." She's "our female AD." That says it all. I'd love to watch a debate between the two. She'd run circles around his miserable ass.
It feels real weird being on the same side of an argument as you, old buddy.
Yes, I know, BLSS that I agree with him about our AD not being all that good and having personnel problems and some degree of narcissism, but I don't agree with him on much of anything else, including his obsession with Albin getting a raw deal, when the problem was of Tim's own making, and his mantra about P4-G5 injury rates.
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Bobcat1996
6/4/2025 6:09 PM
BLOS and others- of course the players aren’t going to complain about the football schedule. Ask the coaches privately off the record and see how they respond. Do you think Boals and his players are complaining about not playing power four schools? They haven’t played one power four school the last few seasons let alone 75 per cent of the non league schedule vs power four schools. Why don’t you ask this wonderful AD in Athens why she allows this type of schedule? Don’t give me some BS response about nobody wants to play Boals. Toledo and Kent played the likes of Houston, Bama, Auburn and Purdue. You guys keep taking up for this administration who made Boals the highest paid coach in the league for his annual fifth and three seeds. Keep congratulating her on the secret renewal of the womens BB coach and that pathetic program! Slap her on the back for the great job she did in hiring the baseball coach she just released. She has made numerous blunders and those are facts many of you refuse to see. And for the record, look around and you will notice that several long time male athletic department employees have left within the past two years. Call that coincidence or not, but those are the facts.
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Bobcat1996
6/4/2025 6:31 PM
BLOS- so Solich scheduled the way he did because it gave him a better chance for a bowl or 8 wins. What do you think Boals is doing? Zero power four teams with the likes of Muskingum, UC Clermont and Defiance on the schedule. Not to mention basketball more times than not has more home games than true road games. Solich didn’t have that advantage.
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BobcatBurner
6/4/2025 6:47 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
BLOS and others- of course the players aren’t going to complain about the football schedule. Ask the coaches privately off the record and see how they respond. Do you think Boals and his players are complaining about not playing power four schools? They haven’t played one power four school the last few seasons let alone 75 per cent of the non league schedule vs power four schools. Why don’t you ask this wonderful AD in Athens why she allows this type of schedule? Don’t give me some BS response about nobody wants to play Boals. Toledo and Kent played the likes of Houston, Bama, Auburn and Purdue. You guys keep taking up for this administration who made Boals the highest paid coach in the league for his annual fifth and three seeds. Keep congratulating her on the secret renewal of the womens BB coach and that pathetic program! Slap her on the back for the great job she did in hiring the baseball coach she just released. She has made numerous blunders and those are facts many of you refuse to see. And for the record, look around and you will notice that several long time male athletic department employees have left within the past two years. Call that coincidence or not, but those are the facts.
Goodness, man. You realize people get different jobs, right? Don’t get the “males left the athletic department.” You think they all left without another, “better” job?
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
6/4/2025 8:07 PM
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Yes, I know, BLSS that I agree with him about our AD not being all that good and having personnel problems and some degree of narcissism, .
My man, we've had a lot of disagreements over the years. But truly I have never thought less of you than I do right now.

I'm going to put it plainly:

You, BillyTheCat, and Bobcat1996 are either an assh*les or cowards. Those are the only two possibilities I see.

All three of you keep -- in very vague ways, citing anonymous "sources" -- implying that Cromer creates a terrible work environment. Bobcat1996 insists it's sexism and that she doesn't treat people with dignity. BTC endorsed that idea.

Do you not understand the implications of those accusations for Cromer's job and her career? Those are very, very serious accusations. And you all gossip about it like 14 year old girls.

And none of you have provided a single example of sexism. None has provided a single example of an employee not being treated without dignity. And the closest anybody has come out saying anything that correlates with a terrible work environment is your very vague, detail-less assertion that she's a narcissist and has "some personnel issues." All from your "anonymous source."

Athens is a small community and college sports is a small community. That you'd peddle rumors publicly about such serious accusations without providing evidence to support that is low, my man. You should either be willing to stand behind your source and what you know, or you should shut up. What you're doing right now -- pushing a narrative publicly about someone without specifics -- feels pretty gross to me.

Maybe I'm missing something though. So you tell me, how are you not either an ass*hole or a coward here? How do you justify it?
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
6/4/2025 8:11 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
And for the record, look around and you will notice that several long time male athletic department employees have left within the past two years. Call that coincidence or not, but those are the facts.
How many of them got replaced by women?

My opinion of you is a little different than my opinion of OCF. I think ther are three possibilities with you: (1) you're a coward, (2) you're an assh*ole, (3) you're very unintelligent.

I'm actually betting on (3) in your case. Though to be clear, these aren't mutually exclusive and all three could well be true.
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Bobcat1996
6/5/2025 7:23 AM
Talk to the people who left. I know them. OCF is a former journalist. He can utilize some of his journalism skills to find out why many of these employees are no longer in Athens.
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Bobcat1996
6/5/2025 8:25 AM
For starters this is an opinion board. I’m not calling anyone an Ahole. I give you facts and many of you disregard those facts. That is your choice. I’m still waiting for the reason the athletic director allows Boals to play zero power four schools, yet the football program plays 75 percent and other years 50 percent of non conference games vs power four schools. If Kent and Toledo had no problem scheduling power four hoops teams, then don’t BS me with Ohio can’t find schools to play them. I’m still waiting for the reason Boals was the highest paid coach going into the 2024-25 season with his annual fifth seed finishes. It was ok to pay Boals for his annual fifth seeds, but yet the football coach was compensated as the sixth highest in the conference, when no coach had a better league record the last four years. I’m still waiting for the reason you applaud the AD for secretly renewing the womens BB head coach who has been pathetic the last four seasons. Did I forget to mention the great hire of the baseball coach who was just dismissed a few weeks ago? This administration has made numerous blunders that many of you just flat out ignore!
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mid70sbobcat
6/5/2025 9:06 AM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
For starters this is an opinion board. I’m not calling anyone an Ahole. I give you facts and many of you disregard those facts. That is your choice. I’m still waiting for the reason the athletic director allows Boals to play zero power four schools, yet the football program plays 75 percent and other years 50 percent of non conference games vs power four schools. If Kent and Toledo had no problem scheduling power four hoops teams, then don’t BS me with Ohio can’t find schools to play them. I’m still waiting for the reason Boals was the highest paid coach going into the 2024-25 season with his annual fifth seed finishes. It was ok to pay Boals for his annual fifth seeds, but yet the football coach was compensated as the sixth highest in the conference, when no coach had a better league record the last four years. I’m still waiting for the reason you applaud the AD for secretly renewing the womens BB head coach who has been pathetic the last four seasons. Did I forget to mention the great hire of the baseball coach who was just dismissed a few weeks ago? This administration has made numerous blunders that many of you just flat out ignore!
What you did FORGET to post is that Tim Albin, our former football coach, CHOSE to leave his job with Ohio prior to the end of last season. He consciously made a decision to become the head football coach at UNCC. Why blame that on our AD? Had he CHOSEN to complete the year and be the first coach since 1968 to win the MAC at Ohio, I'm sure his compensation package would have reflected that success. But leaving before the end of the season was idiotic on his part.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
6/5/2025 9:10 AM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
For starters this is an opinion board. I’m not calling anyone an Ahole. [/QUOTE]No, you're calling someone sexist and accusing them of treating people they work with without dignity.


I’m still waiting for the reason the athletic director allows Boals to play zero power four schools, yet the football program plays 75 percent and other years 50 percent of non conference games vs power four schools.
Money. That's the reason and everybody knows it. It's not a mystery and you know it just as well as everybody else. But you're not actually looking for an explanation, you're looking for ways to criticize Julie Cromer because you don't like her.

That's the definition of acting in bad faith. It's the sort of thing an assh*le does.


[QUOTE=Bobcat1996]
This administration has made numerous blunders that many of you just flat out ignore!
Nobody ignores them. There's plenty of discussion about them. But we're weighing the good, the bad, and in the aggregate Cromer's had a strong tenure in charge of Ohio Athletics.

I know your friend moved away and you're sad. But for the rest of us, that's not a good enough reason to fire the AD.

You're just some dude who disagrees with decisions that Cromer has made. And you've chosen to publicly accuse her of sexism and borderline emotional abuse of employees. And when pressed for examples you cite the following facts: football scheduling vs. basketball scheduling and poor results for baseball and women's basketball. Things that have nothing to do with your very serious accusations.

It takes a real assh*le to do that. We all see it. Maybe someday you will, too. But I'm not betting on it.
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SBH
6/5/2025 10:24 AM
Surprised Bobcat1996 has failed to mention that we now know why the (male) ticket manager left: Ms. Cromer had informed him that she intended to hire Learfield to take over ticket sales/operations. A GREAT move, IMO, as Learfield has a proven record of dramatically increasing its clients' season ticket sales. I bet they hire women and men...
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BobcatBurner
6/5/2025 11:59 AM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
For starters this is an opinion board. I’m not calling anyone an Ahole. I give you facts and many of you disregard those facts. That is your choice. I’m still waiting for the reason the athletic director allows Boals to play zero power four schools, yet the football program plays 75 percent and other years 50 percent of non conference games vs power four schools. If Kent and Toledo had no problem scheduling power four hoops teams, then don’t BS me with Ohio can’t find schools to play them. I’m still waiting for the reason Boals was the highest paid coach going into the 2024-25 season with his annual fifth seed finishes. It was ok to pay Boals for his annual fifth seeds, but yet the football coach was compensated as the sixth highest in the conference, when no coach had a better league record the last four years. I’m still waiting for the reason you applaud the AD for secretly renewing the womens BB head coach who has been pathetic the last four seasons. Did I forget to mention the great hire of the baseball coach who was just dismissed a few weeks ago? This administration has made numerous blunders that many of you just flat out ignore!
This is comical. We’ve given you reasons/rebuttals for all of these and you repeat the same nonsense, over and over. Let’s go through it again, shall we?

Boals openly talks about how he can’t get P4s on the schedule. He’s tweeted it. He says it at caravans. You just aren’t paying attention. Boals’ contract was due to the fact he won a tournament game. How many current MAC coaches can say that? To use your words, do the research!

It wasn’t a secret renewal for WBB. You weren’t paying attention, get over it.

The baseball coach was fired. A new coach, an alum with major P4 experience, was hired. Seems like a good fit.

Employees quit. They get new jobs. The ticket manager got a job across campus. Not sure about the other “men” but again, I’m sure you can do your own research and find they are all employed somewhere.

You’ve spewed sexist nonsense on this board. It’s sad to see a Bobcat act like that.
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BillyTheCat
6/5/2025 10:32 PM
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OCF- call it blather if you want, but did you see the Bobcats opener at Syracuse last season? Captain J Wood and DB K Bannister got injured and both players were lost for the season. Those two weren’t the only players injured. Ask Parker Navarro about the Iowa St game a few seasons ago and his separated shoulder in mop up duty? The Iowa St game was on the heels of playing the Nittany Lions at Happy Valley. The Buckeye game will be the week after the WVU game and after opening with Rutgers. Playing three power four schools with way more NIL cash, way better facilities, nutrition tables and resources in todays NIL world is ridiculous. I’m not predicting several injuries, but playing three power four schools in consecutive weeks is not an ideal schedule. Ask your buddy Frank what he thinks of that type of schedule? You and I both know his response. You don’t see Toledo playing that non league schedule.
It may not be the ideal schedule, and Frank wouldn't have stood for it. He would have insisted at least one weaker team in the mix so it wasn't three P4s in a row, but he wasn't afraid to play them either and had some P4 scalps -- Pittsburgh, Illinois and Penn State come quickly to mind. He had the coaching gravitas to talk back to the AD. I'm not sure your buddy Tim Albin had that, hence this schedule. This is Tim Albin's schedule, like it or not, that Smith is saddled with, but I don't hear him complaining. Brian strikes me as a very business-like guy who will take it all in stride and may surprise with a win or two as we run the P4 gauntlet.
Frank would have insisted on 2 at minimum weaker opponents. Not ironic that OSU didn’t appear on the schedule until his retirement. And, he went kicking and screaming into 2008, contract already signed.
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BillyTheCat
6/5/2025 10:36 PM
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BLOS and others- of course the players aren’t going to complain about the football schedule. Ask the coaches privately off the record and see how they respond. Do you think Boals and his players are complaining about not playing power four schools? They haven’t played one power four school the last few seasons let alone 75 per cent of the non league schedule vs power four schools. Why don’t you ask this wonderful AD in Athens why she allows this type of schedule? Don’t give me some BS response about nobody wants to play Boals. Toledo and Kent played the likes of Houston, Bama, Auburn and Purdue. You guys keep taking up for this administration who made Boals the highest paid coach in the league for his annual fifth and three seeds. Keep congratulating her on the secret renewal of the womens BB coach and that pathetic program! Slap her on the back for the great job she did in hiring the baseball coach she just released. She has made numerous blunders and those are facts many of you refuse to see. And for the record, look around and you will notice that several long time male athletic department employees have left within the past two years. Call that coincidence or not, but those are the facts.
Goodness, man. You realize people get different jobs, right? Don’t get the “males left the athletic department.” You think they all left without another, “better” job?
As long as we have Amy Dean, who has been a solid for 25 years and has worked under every AD since MAC, we’ve been in GREAT hands. So, not sure where B1996 gets his stuff, but our senior associate AD has as much experience as anyone in the country.
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BillyTheCat
6/5/2025 10:38 PM
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You are absolutely incorrect OCF. This is the female athletic directors schedule. Illinois was replaced by TOSU for more cash and she added WVU a few seasons ago. Frank never played three power four schools in three consecutive weeks. Ask Frank, Smith or Albin and they will tell you this type of schedule is ridiculous. This football program just lost four starting DL players to places like Rutgers, Maryland and Missouri. They lost an all MAC LB. They are replacing four starters on the OL. Sure, the cupboard is not bare, but this isn’t Columbus where they reload yearly. This isn’t a power four program with unlimited resources and NIL funds. You don’t see Jason Candle at Toledo playing this type of schedule. Do you see Boals playing this type of schedule? We all know the answer to that question.
You missed my point. If Tim had the coaching gravitas of Frank, he would have been able to stop the AD from scheduling three P4s in three weeks. He didn't. So, we got this schedule. This is on Tim.
Frank quit largely because the coming schedule.
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BillyTheCat
6/5/2025 10:40 PM
Not worth my effort
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
6/6/2025 8:23 AM
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Frank quit largely because the coming schedule.
So the public declaration that it was about his health was not true and he resigned abruptly, shortly before the season over a single season's schedule?

Cool. Reflects really, really well on him. Very strong definitely true and not overblown insider info, Billy.
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SBH
6/6/2025 10:00 AM
Makes one wonder why Frank continues to make monthly trips to the Cleveland Clinic. That's a CIA/Kennedy assassination level coverup.
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OhioCatFan
6/6/2025 12:12 PM
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Makes one wonder why Frank continues to make monthly trips to the Cleveland Clinic. That's a CIA/Kennedy assassination level coverup.
Yep. You heard it first here on BA. Need a congressional investigation to unravel this one.
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BobcatBurner
6/6/2025 11:41 PM
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You are absolutely incorrect OCF. This is the female athletic directors schedule. Illinois was replaced by TOSU for more cash and she added WVU a few seasons ago. Frank never played three power four schools in three consecutive weeks. Ask Frank, Smith or Albin and they will tell you this type of schedule is ridiculous. This football program just lost four starting DL players to places like Rutgers, Maryland and Missouri. They lost an all MAC LB. They are replacing four starters on the OL. Sure, the cupboard is not bare, but this isn’t Columbus where they reload yearly. This isn’t a power four program with unlimited resources and NIL funds. You don’t see Jason Candle at Toledo playing this type of schedule. Do you see Boals playing this type of schedule? We all know the answer to that question.
You missed my point. If Tim had the coaching gravitas of Frank, he would have been able to stop the AD from scheduling three P4s in three weeks. He didn't. So, we got this schedule. This is on Tim.
Frank quit largely because the coming schedule.
This is horribly offensive to a man with health problems. You should be ashamed.
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Bobcat1996
6/11/2025 7:55 PM
"What you did FORGET to post is that Tim Albin, our former football coach, CHOSE to leave his job with Ohio prior to the end of last season. He consciously made a decision to become the head football coach at UNCC. Why blame that on our AD? Had he CHOSEN to complete the year and be the first coach since 1968 to win the MAC at Ohio, I'm sure his compensation package would have reflected that success. But leaving before the end of the season was idiotic on his part."

Mid70s and others you are dead wrong. Albin gave 20 years to the Bobcat community and the current AD didn't appreciate that. Name another Ohio coach who was photographed in The Post for assisting the Bobcat swim team as a timer for the MAC swim meets along with his DFO? How many other Bobcat coaches regularly attended Ohio soccer, volleyball, baseball and volleyball games? The man was an ambassador for Ohio University. This AD didn't appreciate a coach who won 10 games year after year after year and won a league title for the first time in school history since 1968. This AD didn't support a coach who was hand picked by Coach Solich. The football field is named after Solich, but this AD doesn't care. This AD refused to appreciate a coach who had the best win percentage in the MAC the last four years. This AD knew Albin was offered a huge salary by Rice and turned it down a week before the Ball St game. This AD was well aware of other offers Albin had before the Ball St game, but she refused to reward the two time MAC coach of the year. After the Ball St win, this AD had several days to get the deal done, but she refused to do so. If this AD was in the SEC or Big Ten and made this blunder, she would be looking for another job. This AD rewards a mens BB coach who finishes as a 5th seed annually, but can't reward the football coach who has the best win percentage in the MAC the last four seasons. The mens BB coach was the top paid coach going into the 2024 season. This AD secretly rewarded the womens hoops coach for four consecutive lousy seasons, but can't reward the successful football coach. This AD thought that this successful coach was a mediocre coach and rewarded him as sixth/seventh highest paid coach in the conference. Albin possibly made a decision to leave Ohio because this current AD didn't appreciate him. This AD appreciates and rewards a womens hoop coach who has zero winning seasons the last four years and most of those years have been dreadful. This AD appreciates fifth and third seed annual finishes from the mens BB team. I'm not the only one who knows this AD has made huge blunders. This AD can tell you all anything you want to hear, but if she tells the truth, she will admit she messed up. And I am not related to Albin. I just appreciate a winner.
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SBH
6/11/2025 7:59 PM
I've decided this is definitely his wife.
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